Donald Trump Doesn't Have a Ground Game. Does He Need it to Win?

[libertybele]

Welp I was told during the primary that Cruz had great ground game, and Cruz was pulling delegates left and right and I figured his "ground game" would garner him the nomination. Fat good that did him. 

Cruz had the best ground game going.  However, Trump has billions and the media in his pocket.  Consider that Fox News has become Trump News; Hannity interviewed him 41 times before Cruz dropped out.  The media also televised most of his speeches/rallies before Cruz dropped out. That kind of media coverage for Cruz was non-existent.

Trump's intent was to railroad the GOP.  I have absolutely no doubt.  Now they are stuck with him.  Those that bolstered Trump, bear that responsibility going forward.

[truth_seeker]

Actually Trump's lack of a ground game has absolutely nothing at all to do with Cruz.  Trump is Trump.  Right now he has a large amount of people who have vowed not to vote for him because of his lack of credibility, knowledge of government/Constitution, insults and attacks on various different groups of people.  Unless, he can get those people to vote for him, he will lose.  He can get all kinds of endorsements ... but Trump himself has to prove to those he has offended and deceived.  He continues to offend and deceive, therefore he will lose and he will lose big.

#NeverTrump

Obviously you speak of the people like youself, who oppose him. You are baked into the polls; those like you.

He is tied or slightly ahead.

[Henry Noel]

The vast majority of GOP Primary Voters disagreed with you.

They are idiots. The sort of people who are attracted to a populist.

[truth_seeker]

No one stole delegates.  But then you knew that already.


I've seen the replays of the Nuremburg rallies.  It didn't turn out well.

FYI a Trump rally looks exactly like a Tea Party rally. Lay of the Nazi/Hitler crap.

Trump is for strong defense-a traditional conservative position

Trump is for better border protection-a traditional conservative position

Trump is for a stronger economy-a traditional conservative position

[musiclady]

They are idiots. The sort of people who are attracted to a populist.

It is not true that the "vast majority" of primary voters supported Trump.  It was a stubborn minority, and he won most states with a plurality, not a majority.

The majority of Republican primary voters rejected the populist.

Anyone who says Trump won by a 'vast majority' has drunk the koolaid and his/her opinions need to be disregarded.  (Particularly the zealot you were responding to).

[Mod1]

@Hoodat  lose the Nazi references;  @Bill Cipher You may think you're having fun, but you're crossing the line and trying to incite.  Cut it out!

[cato potatoe]

Whew, thank heavens.  For a minute I thought he had taken a swig from the Chalice of Kali. 

[R4 TrumPence]

Whew, thank heavens.  For a minute I thought he had taken a swig from the Chalice of Kali.

No, more like Jack Daniels or psychedelic  mushrooms!

[Maj. Bill Martin]

@Bill Cipher You may think you're having fun, but you're crossing the line and trying to incite.  Cut it out!

Doing that mocks not only the people you're trying to mock, but everyone else on the site as well.  If someone is going to repeatedly advance talking points with which they don't agree, then there's no point in listening to them.

Popping the cherry on the ol' ignore list....

[don-o]

It is not true that the "vast majority" of primary voters supported Trump.  It was a stubborn minority, and he won most states with a plurality, not a majority.

 

Trump:       11,677,003
Not Trump: 16,233,947

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

[alicewonders]

Doing that mocks not only the people you're trying to mock, but everyone else on the site as well.  If someone is going to repeatedly advance talking points with which they don't agree, then there's no point in listening to them.

Popping the cherry on the ol' ignore list....

Yep.  Not much credibility left when you do that, not to mention a real lack of respect for the people here!   

[Bill Cipher]

#Trumpiphany

[Right_in_Virginia]

They are idiots. The sort of people who are attracted to a populist.

Ronald Reagan was a populist. 

[sinkspur]

Ronald Reagan was a populist. 

Ronald Reagan was steeped in political conservatism and didn't speak at a fourth grade level.

Unlike Trump.

[Henry Noel]

Ronald Reagan was a populist. 

Ronald Reagan was popular, not populist. He pandered to no one.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Ronald Reagan was popular, not populist. He pandered to no one.

Of course Reagan pandered.  He pandered to the American spirit and the American patriot tired of what was happening to their country, its economy, military and position in the world.  He was an American populist at exactly the right time.

Reagan was terrific.  But Reagan was still a politician.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Populism is basically anti-elitism, so conservatism has definitely had populism as a part of it for a while (Ie. complaining about "liberal elites"). Can't recall ever hearing Reagan say anything specifically populist though.

[andy58-in-nh]

Ronald Reagan was a populist. 

Nonsense. Reagan was popular.

He was a well-read, well-spoken, and educated conservative who rejected the mindless idiocy of nativism, protectionist trade wars, crony capitalism, and he refrained from criticizing his fellow Republicans whenever possible - as opposed to insulting everyone who even mildly disagreed with him. Reagan was a gentleman and a statesman who inspired millions by means of his love of the timeless idea of human liberty, and its provenance as a gift from God.

Ronald Reagan had about as in common with Donald Trump as he did with Donald Duck; the latter being another species of cartoon character.

[Mechanicos]

Trump:       11,677,003
Not Trump: 16,233,947

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

1 Trump 11,677,003
15 others  16,233,947

He got the majority of any one of the 16. Stop misrepresenting the data - He Got the Vast majority of all the ones who ran in the Primary, That's a fact.

[Mechanicos]

Reagan was a Charismatic populist who was a democrat and was treated the same way by the same kind of people as #neverTrump treats Trump, when he ran.

[chae]

Trump couldn't even get 70% percent of the primary vote when he ran unopposed.

[Hoodat]

Of course Reagan pandered.  He pandered to the American spirit and the American patriot . . .

No.  Reagan was the American spirit and the American patriot.

[Hoodat]

Reagan was a Charismatic populist who was a democrat and was treated the same way by the same kind of people as #neverTrump treats Trump, when he ran.

That's funny when you consider that Trump has hired the exact same person Ford used to defeat Reagan in 1976.

[don-o]

1 Trump 11,677,003
15 others  16,233,947

He got the majority of any one of the 16. Stop misrepresenting the data - He Got the Vast majority of all the ones who ran in the Primary, That's a fact.

Votes, my man. Votes.

[don-o]

Ronald Reagan was a populist.