Is It Getting To Be About the Time When the #NeverTrumpers Should Go Radio Silent?

[Oceander]

The thought that comes to mind is the liberal "protected classes". They must rule over me?

I have criticized Trump on this forum to no end, with no ill effects

Until, if the FR trump crowd has their way, Trump becomes president.  In which case the forum would be shut down, its records seized, and every member who criticized Trump arrested. 

[RetBobbyMI]

More prophetical words that bear truth in this election.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Until, if the FR trump crowd has their way, Trump becomes president.  In which case the forum would be shut down, its records seized, and every member who criticized Trump arrested.

TO be fair, only morons I've heard in favor of that have been Freepers. We all know they're nuts.

[Bigun]

AND that he's doing it wrapped in some sort of 'conservatism', which puts it on my radar.

And no, I won't stop yelling about it. EVER.

Right there with you! 

[roamer_1]

Only to a whining little coward not worthy of my Trump style insult.

What is cowardly is when one claims the principles of Conservatism while being willing to support liberalism.
Of course, Trump is a liberal, who claims to be some sort of conservative, so I guess one shouldn't be surprised to find the same in his followers.

Sorry about your purity, but reality often demands such decisions be made.

Funny. My more than fifty years of life taught me differently.
Compromised principles will never work out well.

Go bury your head, you're not worth the effort.

Well you are right about the effort part. There is nothing on this planet that would cause me to vote for your liberal shyster. I've seen his kind before.

[Relic]

So that's how that works. But I do have an imagination, so I can imagine what was posted.

Thanks for the insight into how the prepubescent mind works.
It's been a long time since I was there.

[mystery-ak]

STOP THE INSULTS

[Relic]

Until, if the FR trump crowd has their way, Trump becomes president.  In which case the forum would be shut down, its records seized, and every member who criticized Trump arrested.

Yeah, because Hillary would never push the fairness doctrine to shut down right wing sites.

[INVAR]

Yeah, because Hillary would never push the fairness doctrine to shut down right wing sites.

Which makes our case that NEITHER Trump OR the Mao Pantsuit are fit to hold the office they seek to be crowned into.

BOTH of them and their rabid supporters would like to see their Champion gut the First Amendment to create a national Safe Space for themselves.

They just have different ideas on how to achieve the same exact results.

[Relic]

Which makes our case that NEITHER Trump OR the Mao Pantsuit are fit to hold the office they seek to be crowned into.

BOTH of them and their rabid supporters would like to see their Champion gut the First Amendment to create a national Safe Space for themselves.

They just have different ideas on how to achieve the same exact results.

I never tried to make the case that Trump is a good choice. Some of you read what you want to read, not what was written.

Trump is a lousy choice, but he never complained of a vast right wing conspiracy, and never mentioned invoking the fairness doctrine.

I don't believe Trump hates America, I do believe Hillary hates America.

[Lando Lincoln]

Trump is a lousy choice, but he never complained of a vast right wing conspiracy, and never mentioned invoking the fairness doctrine.

I don't believe Trump hates America, I do believe Hillary hates America.

Which is a fair position to hold.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I never tried to make the case that Trump is a good choice. Some of you read what you want to read, not what was written.

Trump is a lousy choice, but he never complained of a vast right wing conspiracy, and never mentioned invoking the fairness doctrine.

I don't believe Trump hates America, I do believe Hillary hates America.

This is sort of where I'm at. I think Hillary thinks she could love America if we made it more like Europe, but combined with a health amount of self-flagellation for the white, straight male segment of the nation.

Also, Hillary wants to flood the country with illegals. Period.

The people she will nominate to our court system will want to flood the countries with illegals and flood our ladies rooms with pervs.

If this doesn't make you want to hold your nose and vote Trump, not sure what will. 

[Oceander]

This is sort of where I'm at. I think Hillary thinks she could love America if we made it more like Europe, but combined with a health amount of self-flagellation for the white, straight male segment of the nation.

Also, Hillary wants to flood the country with illegals. Period.

The people she will nominate to our court system will want to flood the countries with illegals and flood our ladies rooms with pervs.

If this doesn't make you want to hold your nose and vote Trump, not sure what will. 

Donald Trump will nominate exactly the same sorts of people to the Supreme Court.  Non-liberals do not come from NYC, especially not if they're wealthy tycoons.  Michael Bloomberg is a raving liberal and he came from NYC as a "republican" and other than different industries there is very little difference between Bloomberg and Trump (except that Trump lies more readily to more people).  Donald Trump is a NYC liberal.  He may not be as far left as current mayor deblasio, but Trump is only non liberal relative to hard core leftists.  Relative to the rest of the country he is a liberal. A fact you may soon learn the hard way. 

[sinkspur]

I never tried to make the case that Trump is a good choice. Some of you read what you want to read, not what was written.

Trump is a lousy choice, but he never complained of a vast right wing conspiracy, and never mentioned invoking the fairness doctrine.

I don't believe Trump hates America, I do believe Hillary hates America.

Well, at the risk of having burning coals poured on my head, I don't believe Hillary hates America, just like I don't believe Obama hates America.

They just have a different notion of what it means to be American.  It's wrong, terribly wrong.

But this notion of labeling those we disagree with as "haters of America" is why conservatives earn the label of nutcases.

[Oceander]

Well, at the risk of having burning coals poured on my head, I don't believe Hillary hates America, just like I don't believe Obama hates America.

They just have a different notion of what it means to be American.  It's wrong, terribly wrong.

But this notion of labeling those we disagree with as "haters of America" is why conservatives earn the label of nutcases.

I'm not sure I agree completely, but you do make a good point, especially about the nutcases problem.

[bolobaby]

Trump is a lousy choice, but he never complained of a vast right wing conspiracy, and never mentioned invoking the fairness doctrine.

Ha! Were you listening to the same primary I was listening to? I don't know HOW many times he complained about the "unfair" process, and that the "system was rigged against him," and there was a conspiracy to "steal" the nomination from him.

Man - that selective Trumpette memory is *amazing*. Must help when he changes positions mid-speech. Just apply the selective Trumpette memory and everything is greeeeeat.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Non-liberals do not come from NYC,

I find this a disgraceful, provincial, prejudice viewpoint to be honest. There are not of conservatives in NYC, but it's not 100% liberals.

[Oceander]

I find this a disgraceful, provincial, prejudice viewpoint to be honest. There are not of conservatives in NYC, but it's not 100% liberals.

How long have you lived in NYC?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

How long have you lived in NYC?

I don't, but I have lived in CT and MA my whole life. I know a guy from Staten Island who is very conservative. He was an office on a Naval submarine.

[Oceander]

I don't, but I have lived in CT and MA my whole life. I know a guy from Staten Island who is very conservative. He was an office on a Naval submarine.

I lived there 13 years, all in various parts of Manhattan.  Staten Island is where they keep the token conservatives (beside the ones kept in Bellvue).  Being conservative in NYC is like what it used to be to be gay in the early 1900s.  You learn various code phrases to drop in conversation with someone you think might be conservative (or at least non-liberal) to see if they get it.  And it's such a relief when they do. 

[WAC]

  How anyone, in their right mind, can take Trump seriously, with anything he puts out there, is beyond me.  Not only does he get his ideas, absolutely, from others (like using the entire NRA script from their website, as his 2nd amendment platform, because he has none), but that he walks it back the very next day, every time....  He's unstable, and inconsistent. .... And people trust that?...I don't.

Well that's just it...and this has been ongoing since he began his run. Whatever the wind blows by Trumps sure to ride it with

whatever suits the moment. ....However, his supporters and family sees that as an attribute, someone flexible and able to make

decisions quickly according to how the political environment changes.


It's pretty obvious that Trump nor his family wants people to trust the man 'on the issues' but rather trust the man himself...... and I

think Trumps supporters are doing exactly that, regardless of what positions he takes at any given moment. ... They 'believe' in the

man himself. ...they believe he cares about this country and patriotic concerning it. ...and that's enough for them in light of the

Governance to date.

I've been listening to and reading up on his wife, who interesting enough is quite like Trump himself in how she views life and this

country.... So is her family. ...most interesting is Trump is almost a carbon copy of her father. ...and their relationship models her

parents.  Each "stays in their own lane" and roles that they assume as partners in a marriage. And it is true they are traditional

when it comes to family, from what I've gathered thus far. ...it's just they're all successful and wealthy.


I don't want to vote for Trump......and think he's dangerous for our country....but I have to admit that Hillary is much more so.

The difference I see thus far is Hillary and Billy are fully engaged with bringing this nation under 'Globalistic Rule'...... Trump on the other

hand wants to pull this nation back from going over that brink, which we're currently sitting on. ......not that he won't "deal" on an

International level...but that he will do so with this nations to benefit in mind....at least he projects that....Hillary doesn't care one way

or the other.

[Fishrrman]

Invar proclaimed:
"The choice between a Marxist Communist and a Populist Fascist..."

If that's the choice with which I'm presented, I will vote for the populist fascist.
And I will do it gladly.

How do you like that answer...?

(Note: I don't care whether you like it or not!)

[Oceander]

Invar proclaimed:
"The choice between a Marxist Communist and a Populist Fascist..."

If that's the choice with which I'm presented, I will vote for the populist fascist.
And I will do it gladly.

How do you like that answer...?

(Note: I don't care whether you like it or not!)

It simply displays a lack of historical context, or the knowledge that the only difference between a communist and a fascist is the degree of nationalism.  Both are left-wing authoritarian forms of socialism. 

[INVAR]

It simply displays a lack of historical context, or the knowledge that the only difference between a communist and a fascist is the degree of nationalism.  Both are left-wing authoritarian forms of socialism.

Yeah, but they keep lecturing us that we have to pick one of them or get blamed for the other.

I choose 'none of the above', and will watch as the wayward nation chooses it's own dictator, Marxist or Fascist to preside over it's oblivion.

[Oceander]

Yeah, but they keep lecturing us that we have to pick one of them or get blamed for the other.

I choose 'none of the above', and will watch as the wayward nation chooses it's own dictator, Marxist or Fascist to preside over it's oblivion.

Third party, or write-in, for me.