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Trump rages at veterans money reports
« on: May 24, 2016, 01:06:07 pm »
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-veterans-fundraiser-des-moines-223506


Trump rages at veterans money reports

By Nick Gass

05/24/16 07:17 AM EDT


Donald Trump punched back at the media late Monday night after a series of reports called into question just how much he raised for veterans at an event he put on in Des Moines, Iowa, instead of participating in the Jan. 28 debate on Fox News.

At the time, the Manhattan businessman's campaign said a fundraising event in honor of veterans had netted $5 million, in addition to $1 million kicked in by the candidate himself. But nearly four months later, only $3.1 million has been accounted for, according to The Washington Post's report last Friday attempting to locate the missing millions.

Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told the Post that the event raised $4.5 million, blaming some of Trump's deep-pocketed donors for backing out of writing big checks. But Lewandowski then told CNN on the same day as the Post report's publication that the $4.5 million figure was incorrect, remarking that he did not "know the exact number." The campaign last Friday did not identify any of the organizations that have received the funds, though in March it did release a list of 27 organizations that it said had received $2.9 million.

In a series of tweets Monday evening, Trump claimed the figure to be "between 5 & 6 million dollars, including 1million dollars from me," ripping the "dishonest and disgusting media" for producing "nothing but bad publicity" on the matter.

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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2016, 01:10:10 pm »
Should be easy to clear all this up by the end of the day. Surely, a couple of those "best and brightest" who Trump only associates with can compile receipts and disbursements in about 15 minutes?

Yes?

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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2016, 01:19:31 pm »
Really, why is this a problem?  Shouldn't be hard to clear up at all.  Assuming it happened...

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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2016, 01:21:53 pm »
Really, Trump could produce Certified Public Records of the balance sheet and disbursements and #neverTrump would still attack him and call him a liar over it.

Trump is for America First.
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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2016, 01:25:33 pm »
Really, Trump could produce Certified Public Records of the balance sheet and disbursements and #neverTrump would still attack him and call him a liar over it.

Nonsense. Either the WaPo or Trump has this wrong. It is a very specific charge with a very simple solution. If the WaPo did lie, Trump ought to jump on this like a duck on a junebug.

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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2016, 01:28:51 pm »
Really, Trump could produce Certified Public Records of the balance sheet and disbursements and #neverTrump would still attack him and call him a liar over it.



Then why doesn't he?  Or is this going to be like those mythical tax returns that were promised but which so far haven't shown up.

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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2016, 01:35:02 pm »
Then why doesn't he?  Or is this going to be like those mythical tax returns that were promised but which so far haven't shown up.

Really. Assuming the "best and brightest" are all that, the monies should be recorded  and a compile and generate report should take 4 or five key strokes.


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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2016, 02:17:04 pm »
Veterans hold Trump Tower protest after Donald Trump’s charity fundraising drive comes up short
Hunter Walker
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/veterans-hold-trump-tower-protest-after-donald-trumps-charity-fundraising-drive-comes-up-short-191229776.html

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A group of veterans went to Donald Trump’s headquarters in midtown Manhattan on Monday to demand an apology and answers after the presumptive Republican presidential nominee’s campaign admitted a veterans fundraiser did not raise as much money as he had initially claimed.

Alexander McCoy, who said he was a Marine Corps veteran who helped organize the protest, described Trump’s handling of the January fundraiser as “unacceptable.”

“We’re here as a group of veterans to reject Donald Trump,” McCoy said. “It is unacceptable that he made a commitment and failed to live up to it. He said he raised $6 million for veterans and claimed to have done so, and yet there has been no accountability for that money.”

He continued: “He has failed to show where a lot of that money went. And he failed to raise as much as he claimed to have raised. And it is unacceptable for Donald Trump to try to take advantage of the goodwill that American voters feel for our men and women in uniform to try and get votes while failing to live up to his own commitments.”

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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2016, 02:44:54 pm »
Really, Trump could produce Certified Public Records of the balance sheet and disbursements and #neverTrump would still attack him and call him a liar over it.

Why not have him do it and we'll find out?

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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2016, 02:51:11 pm »
Why not have him do it and we'll find out?
maybe he will. But it will not be because of #neverTrump whining.
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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2016, 02:52:38 pm »
maybe he will. But it will not be because of #neverTrump whining.

I am betting that I have a better chance of hitting the lottery than I do of every seeing a Trump tax return or the audit of this veteran's fundraiser. 

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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2016, 02:55:20 pm »
Veterans hold Trump Tower protest after Donald Trump’s charity fundraising drive comes up short
Hunter Walker
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/veterans-hold-trump-tower-protest-after-donald-trumps-charity-fundraising-drive-comes-up-short-191229776.html
Yep a nothing hit piece. There was No indication any of them were on the approved list of Veterans charities and not all who use the name Charity are legit. See The Clinton Foundation for example. So you got a bunch not affiliated with the vetted veterans charities complaining they did not get their free stuff. Maybe they should get with a vetted charity instead.
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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2016, 02:56:34 pm »
I am betting that I have a better chance of hitting the lottery than I do of every seeing a Trump tax return or the audit of this veteran's fundraiser.
And pray tell why should Trump bow to your demands when you have said you will never Support him?
Trump is for America First.
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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2016, 03:01:28 pm »
And pray tell why should Trump bow to your demands when you have said you will never Support him?

How about to confirm that Trump has a clue about telling the truth and speaking forthrightly and backing up his claim  on this matter with the figures that he ALONE has. He could have had this done and laid to rest in the time he took to tweet about  it.

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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2016, 03:06:48 pm »
Really, Trump could produce Certified Public Records of the balance sheet and disbursements and #neverTrump would still attack him and call him a liar over it.

If you can't answer the charge, attack the messenger.   That's SOP from a politician, and Trump is just another politician. 

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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2016, 03:08:26 pm »
How about to confirm that Trump has a clue about telling the truth and speaking forthrightly and backing up his claim  on this matter with the figures that he ALONE has. He could have had this done and laid to rest in the time he took to tweet about  it.
Since the "Trump is a Liar" narrative was created  as Campaign Rhetoric by #neverTrump people who did not believe it themselves but is unsupported by people with Personal Knowledge from Trump's history over decades. He has nothing to prove to you.  The narrative "Trump is a Liar" is falling apart faster then Obama Gayed up America.
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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2016, 03:13:28 pm »
Since the "Trump is a Liar" narrative was created  as Campaign Rhetoric by #neverTrump people who did not believe it themselves but is unsupported by people with Personal Knowledge from Trump's history over decades. He has nothing to prove to you.  The narrative "Trump is a Liar" is falling apart faster then Obama Gayed up America.

Wandering off topic here, aren't we? Topic is very narrow, very specific. It could be laid to rest by one man. Why would he not do this and put a real notch in his gun by proving that the WaPo lied?

edit / add - Besides, we are talking mere months here - not years.
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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2016, 03:15:38 pm »
Wandering off topic here, aren't we? Topic is very narrow, very specific. It could be laid to rest by one man. Why would he not do this and put a real notch in his gun by proving that the WaPo lied?
That would be beating a dead horse. Everybody knows Washington Compost lies. No need to keep proving it. There is no return on investment at this time to let #neverTrump control the narrative. It has not gained any traction before so its just chatter.
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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2016, 03:21:04 pm »
Veterans hold Trump Tower protest after Donald Trump’s charity fundraising drive comes up short


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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2016, 03:27:21 pm »
Should be easy to clear all this up by the end of the day. Surely, a couple of those "best and brightest" who Trump only associates with can compile receipts and disbursements in about 15 minutes?

Yes?

He seems to surround himself with sycophants more than with competence.  He's fooled a lot of his supporters with this "I'll hire the best" claptrap.  And while he has been spending most of his life reading Penthouse and living the live of Playboy, many of the folks he's fooling spend their time reading Trump's favorite magazine National Enquirer.

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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2016, 03:28:52 pm »
That would be beating a dead horse. Everybody knows Washington Compost lies. No need to keep proving it. There is no return on investment at this time to let #neverTrump control the narrative. It has not gained any traction before so its just chatter.

You strike me as more of a man who reads the type of papers that support Trump, like the National Enquirer.

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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2016, 04:25:20 pm »
And pray tell why should Trump bow to your demands when you have said you will never Support him?

It's what Trump said.  He's said he'll release his tax returns...eventually.  And he'll come clean on the veteran's fund...eventually.  My prediction is that he will do neither. 

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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2016, 04:31:52 pm »
Not all vets are conservatives...some, are quite leftist in their thinking/actions...

The one has a #vetsvshate on his poster...they're an anti-islamophobia group...in other words, quislings.
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2016, 09:37:13 pm »
Just checking to see if Trump had that report run. Th one that would require about 4 key strokes.

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Re: Trump rages at veterans money reports
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2016, 10:43:44 pm »
The problem is simply really. He keeps losing count on his tiny fingers.

I think our Vets deserve better treatment than this. Anybody want to bet how long it takes to for the groups to actually get the money? Until that day I contend he justed used them as photo-op pawns.
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