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Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« on: May 19, 2016, 11:43:46 pm »
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/05/02/trump-can-throw-free-trade-window./

Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.” (VIDEO)

By: Leon H. Wolf (Diary)  |  May 2nd, 2016 at 09:32 PM  |  49


This is why Donald Trump is happening to America. It isn’t because the GOP betrayed their principles, and it isn’t because conservative pundits demanded too much of Republicans in Congress. It’s because, as a movement, we forgot the need to educate people on why the things Donald Trump says in this clip are absolute and total nonsense.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvULuxcxXhM


The problem is that conservatives got arrogant on their own success. The last 20 years have seen an unprecedented level of success for the GOP, electorally speaking. We started taking it for granted that people just believed in conservative economic ideals and the free market, and we forgot that it takes nearly constant reminders and education to the public to convince them that it is almost always a bad idea for the government to monkey with the market in any way.


We forgot what a siren call it was for people to hear, “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.” We forgot that people will always look to their immediate interest to the detriment of their remote interest, if you don’t constantly remind them of how the one affects the other. And so this guy, Trump, comes along and spews absolute nonsense and we can’t understand why people are taking him seriously.

I’m starting to understand that it’s a massive failure of education throughout the system, and it’s something that will have to be addressed – if it’s not already too late.
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2016, 11:45:55 pm »
RedState lies. Not worth the read.
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2016, 11:49:35 pm »
RedState lies. Not worth the read.
Nope not here they don't. Red State is nothing but facts here. They tell us so, very often.  :smokin:   :laugh:


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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2016, 11:53:08 pm »
RedState lies. Not worth the read.

So you think Trump's own words are lies, too?

Come to think of it, you're right.
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2016, 11:55:43 pm »
Leon, tell us what you find deplorable about fair trade?

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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2016, 11:56:32 pm »
RedState lies. Not worth the read.

The video of Trump speaking more than illustrates the fact that Trump and Bernie Sanders are identical on the issue of Free Trade: they both have said in essence that it needs to go because markets only work when people they deem as "smart" are in charge of regulating it.

For Bernie - it is the government bureaucracy of oligarchs - for Trump….. well, we don't know who Trump thinks is 'smart people' to run the market.

But both of them think that we are too stupid to run the market without 'smarter people' regulating it for us.
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2016, 12:01:44 am »
But both of them think that we are too stupid to run the market without 'smarter people' regulating it for us.

Well, Bernie's may be going for regulations. 

But Donald Trump is exchanging "fair" trade with smart trade through negotiations that protect and advance US economic/jobs interests. I'm cheering that and saying: "about damn time!'   :patriot:

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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2016, 12:05:07 am »
Well, Bernie's may be going for regulations. 

But Donald Trump is exchanging "fair" trade with smart trade through negotiations that protect and advance US economic/jobs interests. I'm cheering that and saying: "about damn time!'   :patriot:

So all that tariff stuff was just bullshit?  Now it's "negotiations."  Everything is up for grabs with Trump, including that "virtual" wall and those "virtual" deportations.
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2016, 12:06:35 am »
So all that tariff stuff was just bullshit?  Now it's "negotiations."  Everything is up for grabs with Trump, including that "virtual" wall and those "virtual" deportations.


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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2016, 12:09:53 am »
So all that tariff stuff was just bullshit?  Now it's "negotiations."  Everything is up for grabs with Trump, including that "virtual" wall and those "virtual" deportations.
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2016, 12:11:52 am »
Wow, two meaningless posts in a row.
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2016, 12:18:36 am »
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2016, 12:19:44 am »
Were the words too big?   :pondering:

Couldn't read your messy handwriting.
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2016, 12:37:03 am »
What is wrong with fair trade and putting the USA ahead of all other nations in trade negotiations?

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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2016, 12:55:57 am »
What is wrong with fair trade and putting the USA ahead of all other nations in trade negotiations?
I do not see anything wrong with it..............oh wait I am a Trump fan, so I must be wrong.  :pondering:


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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2016, 01:01:57 am »
Tonight at a fundraiser for Christie:

Trump: "A lot of you don't know the world of economics, and you shouldn't even bother. Don't worry, leave it to me."

Plus he told him "No more Oreos for you Chris." 

Trump always feels bigger when he can make someone else feel small.
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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2016, 01:05:11 am »
Leon, tell us what you find deplorable about fair trade?


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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2016, 01:14:08 am »
Tonight at a fundraiser for Christie:

Trump: "A lot of you don't know the world of economics, and you shouldn't even bother. Don't worry, leave it to me."

Plus he told him "No more Oreos for you Chris." 

Trump always feels bigger when he can make someone else feel small.

Did he take away the glass of milk too from Christie? WTH is wrong with no longer supporting a business that is moving to Mexico?  I know I won't be buying them anymore. I must admit, haven't bought them in many years.


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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2016, 01:18:53 am »
Did he take away the glass of milk too from Christie? WTH is wrong with no longer supporting a business that is moving to Mexico?  I know I won't be buying them anymore. I must admit, haven't bought them in many years.

Of course.  You Trumpkins excuse ANYTHING Trump says.  Now you're OK with him trashing American businesses by name and calling for boycotts. 

That's disgraceful. 

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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2016, 01:19:07 am »
What is wrong with fair trade and putting the USA ahead of all other nations in trade negotiations?
I do not see anything wrong with it..............oh wait I am a Trump fan, so I must be wrong.  :pondering:

That is what Obama says too...
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    Now, one of the things that I talked about during the State of the Union address (2012) was making America more competitive in the global economy. The good news is that we have the best workers and the best businesses in the world. They turn out the best products. And when the playing field is level, they’ll always be able to compete and succeed against every other country on Earth.

    But the key is to make sure that the playing field is level. And frankly, sometimes it’s not.

"Fair trade" was, and still is, a dog whistle for liberals.  :doglick:

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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2016, 01:27:05 am »
That is what Obama says too...
"Fair trade" was, and still is, a dog whistle for liberals.  :doglick:

Exactly. 

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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2016, 01:31:26 am »
What is wrong with fair trade and putting the USA ahead of all other nations in trade negotiations?

Because TAXING the American consumer (aka: TARIFFS) to benefit Unions and political cronies and their lobbyists for campaign cash so as to ostensibly 'punish' foreign markets is NOT 'free trade'.

Neither is publicly decreeing that you will punish companies that operate overseas, make their products in the USA and/or whom don't meet certain quotas the king or the Oligarchy deigns to apply to them as a coercive measure to achieve compliance with political goals "free trade".

We already HAVE thousands of tariffs and punitive taxes on products and companies.  Anyone bother to ask why US sugar prices are the highest on the planet and why???

What is wrong with the Trumpian calls of 'fair trade' is that Isolationist Protectionism in the name of putting the USA 'ahead' is not Capitalism or the 'free market'.   Those are the tools of Central Planners and big government fascists.

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Re: Trump: “You can throw free trade out the window.”
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2016, 01:37:14 am »
Tonight at a fundraiser for Christie:

Trump: "A lot of you don't know the world of economics, and you shouldn't even bother. Don't worry, leave it to me."

Plus he told him "No more Oreos for you Chris." 

Trump always feels bigger when he can make someone else feel small.

 :spam2:
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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