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 Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee :0001:
 By Kyle Cheney 05/03/16 07:07 PM EDT


  Utah Sen. Mike Lee has been named to the Republican national convention Rules Committee, a post that gives Ted Cruz an influential ally — and prolific attorney – on the powerful panel.
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The Convention Rules Committee will set the terms by which the presidential nomination will be decided at the national convention in Cleveland — and potentially in the 2020 campaign as well. Lee’s presence adds an experienced litigator to champion Cruz’s arguments and potentially pushback on the legal interpretations offered by rival delegates or the RNC’s counsel.


In 2016, the panel could be the front line in any last ditch attempt to wrest the Republican nomination from Donald Trump. Though it’s considered unlikely, the panel has broad authority to rewrite rules to free convention delegates from being bound to primary results and vote their conscience, which could tilt the convention away from Trump.
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Lee’s wife Sharon will be the second Utahan on the 112-member rules committee, which includes a man and a woman from every state and territory. Committee members must already be chosen as delegates to the national convention and elected by a majority of their fellow delegation members.
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Most of the Convention Rules Committee has yet to be selected, since many national convention delegations are still being picked in state and local contests. POLITICO has confirmed the identity of 22 Rules Committee members, and among them are at least six Cruz supporters, compared to three Trump and Three Kasich supporters. Two Rubio delegates are on the panel as well, and five Republican National Committee members who haven’t formally endorsed candidates. Three other members haven’t declared a candidate preference yet.

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/twelve-thirty-seven/2016/05/mike-lee-convention-rules-committee-222758#ixzz498gBUmx5

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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2016, 09:29:37 pm »
RNC and Manfort have the power and authority to stop this crap before it ever starts. At minimum everybody identified as part of this "plot" to steal the nomination can be challenged and tossed out before they ever get a seat. i have no doubt that enough challenges will be issued to gut this sneaky little plan before it has a chance to do any damage.
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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2016, 09:36:34 pm »
RNC and Manfort have the power and authority to stop this crap before it ever starts. At minimum everybody identified as part of this "plot" to steal the nomination can be challenged and tossed out before they ever get a seat. i have no doubt that enough challenges will be issued to gut this sneaky little plan before it has a chance to do any damage.

We should be lucky enough to suffer such "damage".

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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2016, 09:37:56 pm »
BTW your plea to the GOPe to ride to Trump's rescue is duly noted, with a snicker.

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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2016, 09:40:30 pm »
BTW your plea to the GOPe to ride to Trump's rescue is duly noted, with a snicker.
Noted you focused on the RNC and not the guy who will rip #neverTrump a new opening on this, Manfort.
Trump is for America First.
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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2016, 09:43:11 pm »
RNC and Manfort have the power and authority to stop this crap before it ever starts. At minimum everybody identified as part of this "plot" to steal the nomination can be challenged and tossed out before they ever get a seat. i have no doubt that enough challenges will be issued to gut this sneaky little plan before it has a chance to do any damage.
You have NO clue how conventions actually work, do you?  You really should get educated and read up on history.

Contested Convention of 1964-GOP

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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2016, 09:45:29 pm »
Noted you focused on the RNC and not the guy who will rip #neverTrump a new opening on this, Manfort.

Still trying to earn the privilege of addressing Mr Trump by his first name, is he?

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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2016, 09:52:49 pm »
I seriously do not get all the handwringing over this.  There's someone at FR that won't let go.  Would we expect to have no Cruz supporters?  So, now we have 25% of the 22 committee members so far with 90 more members to still be chosen.  This to me seems like an attempt to stir up trouble where there isn't any.  Something to keep an eye on, sure, but it seems like this is most likely a big nothing.

The Cruz campaign sent out a letter saying that they would like to use their delegates to influence the party platform that will be updated.  That's as big of a deal as I think this will be.

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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2016, 09:58:40 pm »
I seriously do not get all the handwringing over this.  There's someone at FR that won't let go.  Would we expect to have no Cruz supporters?  So, now we have 25% of the 22 committee members so far with 90 more members to still be chosen.  This to me seems like an attempt to stir up trouble where there isn't any.  Something to keep an eye on, sure, but it seems like this is most likely a big nothing.

The Cruz campaign sent out a letter saying that they would like to use their delegates to influence the party platform that will be updated.  That's as big of a deal as I think this will be.
Its more then that, Its fanaticism of the crazy kind.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/republican-convention-stop-donald-trump-curly-haugland-213879
Trump is for America First.
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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2016, 10:10:32 pm »


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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2016, 10:20:12 pm »
Interesting to note that Trump supporters have their collective panties in a wad over a Constitutional Conservative on the rules committee. Wonder why?

Also wonder why the RNC and Manafort the slick insider (GOPe) are now beloved by Trump supporters.
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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2016, 10:22:45 pm »
A constitutional conservative would follow the part of the Constitution that guarantees we have a Republic - not a Tyranny by a few fanatics with bad information.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2016, 10:25:34 pm »
Interesting to note that Trump supporters have their collective panties in a wad over a Constitutional Conservative on the rules committee. Wonder why?

Also wonder why the RNC and Manafort the slick insider (GOPe) are now beloved by Trump supporters.

I don't know why, Lee's brother is on the Trump list of prospective SCOTUS justices. 

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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2016, 10:35:28 pm »
A constitutional conservative would follow the part of the Constitution that guarantees we have a Republic - not a Tyranny by a few fanatics with bad information.
More proof that Trump supporters are living in an upside down/backasswards world.

Reality eludes them.

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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2016, 10:40:00 pm »
Interesting to note that Trump supporters have their collective panties in a wad over a Constitutional Conservative on the rules committee. Wonder why?

Also wonder why the RNC and Manafort the slick insider (GOPe) are now beloved by Trump supporters.

Something #neverTrump never contemplates and to many is proof it is a Democrat operation is the fact of the likely harm to the entire Republican party and down ticket if its successful at blocking Trump at the convention. Not only will it cause the majority of Republicans to stay home in November as well as not help the selected nominee, it will destroy the down ticket races for the same reason. Who gains by such a situation? That's right, Democrats are the only ones to benefit from #neverTrump's actions. .
Trump is for America First.
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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2016, 10:54:15 pm »
Its more then that, Its fanaticism of the crazy kind.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/republican-convention-stop-donald-trump-curly-haugland-213879

Everything I've read says this Curly guy has been kind of out there for a long time and sounds like at the national level he's mostly dismissed.  I don't see any reason why this year tings would be any different.

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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2016, 10:59:29 pm »
Everything I've read says this Curly guy has been kind of out there for a long time and sounds like at the national level he's mostly dismissed.  I don't see any reason why this year tings would be any different.
oh hes way out there, But #neverTrump is desperate and getting crazier each day. They really think they can get Cruz or another Bush camp person in his place.
Trump is for America First.
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Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2016, 11:04:00 pm »
Something Trump supporters never contemplate is that Trump is working to destroy the Republican party from within in cooperation with Hitlery. They also don't understand that some conservatives will not compromise their principles to vote for a NY liberal narcissist whose behavior and temperament disqualify him from being POTUS.
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2016, 11:05:25 pm »
Interesting to note that Trump supporters have their collective panties in a wad over a Constitutional Conservative on the rules committee. Wonder why?

They are wound so tight they can't see straight. The majority of them don't understand how the nominating process works, or why someone who expects to run in the future is going to want to influence how delegates will be bound in 2020.

Sen. Cruz is a smart guy. He knows that the odds are there will be an outcry for real change in 2020. 

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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2016, 11:07:01 pm »
A constitutional conservative would follow the part of the Constitution that guarantees we have a Republic - not a Tyranny by a few fanatics with bad information.

You're a Trump supporter aren't you?
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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2016, 11:08:19 pm »
Something Trump supporters never contemplate is that Trump is working to destroy the Republican party from within in cooperation with Hitlery. They also don't understand that some conservatives will not compromise their principles to vote for a NY liberal narcissist whose behavior and temperament disqualify him from being POTUS.
The Republican party is now larger then it has been for a long time and looking at not only taking the white house by a landslide it will drag the down races across to the win with it.

Every reason #neverTrump has used has fallen apart.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2016, 11:08:30 pm »
oh hes way out there, But #neverTrump is desperate and getting crazier each day. They really think they can get Cruz or another Bush camp person in his place.

Referring to Cruz as a 'Bush camp person' doesn't reflect well on the average Trump fanatic's grasp of reality.

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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2016, 11:13:34 pm »
Referring to Cruz as a 'Bush camp person' doesn't reflect well on the average Trump fanatic's grasp of reality.
You did know He was Bush's lawyer right? Why do you think he called Bush Camp to save his losing campaign?
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2016, 11:14:32 pm »
Something #neverTrump never contemplates and to many is proof it is a Democrat operation is the fact of the likely harm to the entire Republican party and down ticket if its successful at blocking Trump at the convention. Not only will it cause the majority of Republicans to stay home in November as well as not help the selected nominee, it will destroy the down ticket races for the same reason. Who gains by such a situation? That's right, Democrats are the only ones to benefit from #neverTrump's actions. .

Wait a minute! You're a Trump supporter. Your guy says he doesn't need the Pubs who think integrity and decent behavior is important. He's the guy who says he'll win with crossover Rat votes. Now all of a sudden you guys are worried about the Pub party?

Is it possible that Trump supporters are waking up to the reality that Trump will need a party structure to help get elected and if he wins he will need the Pubs to help push through whatever it is that he plans to do. If this is the case then why did he act like a horses ass throughout the campaign and burned all those bridges.
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Re: Cruz backer Mike Lee snags spot on convention rules committee
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2016, 11:17:04 pm »
The Republican party is now larger then it has been for a long time and looking at not only taking the white house by a landslide it will drag the down races across to the win with it.

Every reason #neverTrump has used has fallen apart.

Then what are you worrying about?
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