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After 4 years of Hillary or Trump, what do you think will happen?

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Offline Right_in_Virginia

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Your post is a good one.  I was a psychological examiner for twenty-five years and believe Trump's behavior is that of a mentally unstable person.  I will never vote for him due to that reason.  I do not want his finger near the red button and I also believe he could start WWIII and we would have no allies as he has ready ticked a number of them off and he has just started with that.  He cannot control himself and we absolutely cannot have such a person running this country.

Due to the above, I will vote for the Libertarian candidate for president (not concerned about marijuana use as that is determined by state) and conservatives down the ballot.  I worked in the Texas Republican Party for ten years, holding elections and teaching Texas Election Law across the state to County Chairmen, lawyers, election judges/clerks.  This was volunteer on my part to assure we have fair elections in this state.  So, with that background, I am still leaving the Republican Party when it comes to Trump - that is how dangerous I think he is.

Another issue - the word, "hate" when it comes to choosing one candidate over another.  I do not "hate" anyone and others here who have reason not to vote for Trump, are not "haters", either.  Trump people on the other site and this one throw the word, "hate" toward those of us who cannot, due to our conscience, vote for the man.  I have blocked people on this website who use that word about us.  (I write poetry and feel a poem coming about the word, "hate".)
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Your post is a good one.  I was a psychological examiner for twenty-five years and believe Trump's behavior is that of a mentally unstable person.  I will never vote for him due to that reason.  I do not want his finger near the red button and I also believe he could start WWIII and we would have no allies as he has ready ticked a number of them off and he has just started with that.  He cannot control himself and we absolutely cannot have such a person running this country.

Due to the above, I will vote for the Libertarian candidate for president (not concerned about marijuana use as that is determined by state) and conservatives down the ballot.  I worked in the Texas Republican Party for ten years, holding elections and teaching Texas Election Law across the state to County Chairmen, lawyers, election judges/clerks.  This was volunteer on my part to assure we have fair elections in this state.  So, with that background, I am still leaving the Republican Party when it comes to Trump - that is how dangerous I think he is.

Another issue - the word, "hate" when it comes to choosing one candidate over another.  I do not "hate" anyone and others here who have reason not to vote for Trump, are not "haters", either.  Trump people on the other site and this one throw the word, "hate" toward those of us who cannot, due to our conscience, vote for the man.  I have blocked people on this website who use that word about us.  (I write poetry and feel a poem coming about the word, "hate".)
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No one put this thread out of it's misery yet?

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I've said this before on different threads, but let's look at the long view.
But now the Republican Party has decided it wants to be a populist/nationalist party. No conservative philosophy please.
In four or eight years we will be in the same spot we are now. There is no other party that pushes the conservative/free trade/limited gov. message other than Libertarians. And Libertarians have decided that pushing legalization of pot is the most important issue of the century.
We need a conservative champion. Trump is not that person.  He will do great harm to the conservative movement in the Republican Party if he has not already killed it.
There's no way this country will survive on its present course of unabashed socialism. Unless we figure out how to get the conservative message front and center, we're doomed.
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1) The creation and expansion of a welfare state
2) A rapid decline in moral values.
3) Betrayal of genuine allies and replacing them with false allies to create or maintain an "unnatural peace."
Trump and Clinton have both proved incapable of stemming the increase in any of those items.
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Your post is a good one.  I was a psychological examiner for twenty-five years and believe Trump's behavior is that of a mentally unstable person.  I will never vote for him due to that reason.  I do not want his finger near the red button and I also believe he could start WWIII and we would have no allies as he has ready ticked a number of them off and he has just started with that.  He cannot control himself and we absolutely cannot have such a person running this country.

Due to the above, I will vote for the Libertarian candidate for president (not concerned about marijuana use as that is determined by state) and conservatives down the ballot.  I worked in the Texas Republican Party for ten years, holding elections and teaching Texas Election Law across the state to County Chairmen, lawyers, election judges/clerks.  This was volunteer on my part to assure we have fair elections in this state.  So, with that background, I am still leaving the Republican Party when it comes to Trump - that is how dangerous I think he is.

Another issue - the word, "hate" when it comes to choosing one candidate over another.  I do not "hate" anyone and others here who have reason not to vote for Trump, are not "haters", either.  Trump people on the other site and this one throw the word, "hate" toward those of us who cannot, due to our conscience, vote for the man.  I have blocked people on this website who use that word about us.  (I write poetry and feel a poem coming about the word, "hate".)
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Back before the Iowa caucus, I made my husband watch the video of Trump's speech in which he ranted incoherently about Ben Carson.  Husband stood there silently as Trump wandered back and forth across the stage, yanking up his pants, rambling in a hoarse voice like a half-crazy person.  When it was over, my other half just shook his head and said, "That man doesn't belong anywhere near the White House."  I agree, and not one thing has occurred to change my mind.  In fact, the opposite is true; confirmation of his unfit status for office has piled up rapidly and continues to do so.


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I've said this before on different threads, but let's look at the long view.
If it comes down to either Trump or Clinton, I guess Trump would be slightly better.  But one thing Trump will definitely NOT!!! do is spread the conservative message. He will spread Donald H. Trump's message....me, myself, and I.
So say Trump wins this year (Trump wins this year, Trump wins this year, etc.) We have maybe stopped ultra-leftism for four years. But Trump has some screwy, leftist positions of his own. But whatever.
We can be sure that since the Dem Party has now descended into the stinking swamp of ultra-leftism, in four years they will nominate another nutty leftist. They will keep nominating nutty leftists for the far foreseeable future unless the political atmosphere changes.
 As stated before, Trump is not the person to deliver a conservative message. He is a one off.
But now the Republican Party has decided it wants to be a populist/nationalist party. No conservative philosophy please.
In four or eight years we will be in the same spot we are now. There is no other party that pushes the conservative/free trade/limited gov. message other than Libertarians. And Libertarians have decided that pushing legalization of pot is the most important issue of the century.
So in four or eight years the Pubbies will be sending a quasi-Trump as their standard bearer under the new populist/nationalist/isolationist philosophy.
That message will not defeat the march of leftism that has won over the young set who are viewing socialism much more favorably than past generations. There's no way Bernie Sanders could have been as successful forty years ago. George McGovern, a pre-Sanders, socialist Democrat candidate, got killed against a moderate Republican.
We need a conservative champion. Trump is not that person.  He will do great harm to the conservative movement in the Republican Party if he has not already killed it.
There's no way this country will survive on its present course of unabashed socialism. Unless we figure out how to get the conservative message front and center, we're doomed.

We have Obama now because we elected a "compassionate conservative". We poison the conservative cause when the people who claim to represent it are anything but. Then the masses demand a change away from what was claimed to be "conservative" because of the disaster it was and swing hard further to the left looking for that change.

I believe Trump could be final nail to the conservative cause. He's flying the banner that so many "conservatives" are following that when it comes to its ugly end, it will all be blamed on conservatives and any alternative will look better. It is much like crony capitalism by the left giving capitalism a bad name. The left wins both ways.

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We have Obama now because we elected a "compassionate conservative". We poison the conservative cause when the people who claim to represent it are anything but. Then the masses demand a change away from what was claimed to be "conservative" because of the disaster it was and swing hard further to the left looking for that change.

I believe Trump could be final nail to the conservative cause. He's flying the banner that so many "conservatives" are following that when it comes to its ugly end, it will all be blamed on conservatives and any alternative will look better. It is much like crony capitalism by the left giving capitalism a bad name. The left wins both ways.

Every election year we are told this is the most important country destroying election in the history of ever.

Every election year we hear some version of the lesser evil argument to avoid that country destroying whatever/whoever.

Every election year we are told this most important country destroying election ever is the reason to elect a liberal GOP Prez/Congressman/Senator because reasons. THIS TIME.

Every election year we are told 'next time' we can elect a conservative but that this most important election ever in the history of most important elections ever is too important...as if there were such a thing as an unimportant election.

Every year we are told, impotently, that we will hold feet to the fire.

Every moment until the next most important election ever, no feet are held to the fire because 'it isn't the right time', "You/we should have thought about it before the election" Because "now we have to go with what we have" and besides, "It was the lesser evil".

And as the next election approaches...

Every election year we are told this is the most important country destroying election in the history of ever.

Every election year we hear some version of the lesser evil argument to avoid that country destroying whatever/whoever.

Every election year we are told this most important country destroying election ever is the reason to elect a liberal GOP Prez/Congressman/Senator because reasons. THIS TIME.

Every election year we are told 'next time' we can elect a conservative but that this most important election ever in the history of most important elections ever is too important...as if there were such a thing as an unimportant election.

Every year we are told, impotently, that we will hold feet to the fire.

Every moment until the next most important election ever, no feet are held to the fire because 'it isn't the right time', "You/we should have thought about it before the election" Because "now we have to go with what we have" and besides, "It was the lesser evil"..

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Every election year we are told this is the most important country destroying election in the history of ever.

Every election year we hear some version of the lesser evil argument to avoid that country destroying whatever/whoever.

Every election year we are told this most important country destroying election ever is the reason to elect a liberal GOP Prez/Congressman/Senator because reasons. THIS TIME.

Every election year we are told 'next time' we can elect a conservative but that this most important election ever in the history of most important elections ever is too important...as if there were such a thing as an unimportant election.

Every year we are told, impotently, that we will hold feet to the fire.

Every moment until the next most important election ever, no feet are held to the fire because 'it isn't the right time', "You/we should have thought about it before the election" Because "now we have to go with what we have" and besides, "It was the lesser evil".

And as the next election approaches...

Every election year we are told this is the most important country destroying election in the history of ever.

Every election year we hear some version of the lesser evil argument to avoid that country destroying whatever/whoever.

Every election year we are told this most important country destroying election ever is the reason to elect a liberal GOP Prez/Congressman/Senator because reasons. THIS TIME.

Every election year we are told 'next time' we can elect a conservative but that this most important election ever in the history of most important elections ever is too important...as if there were such a thing as an unimportant election.

Every year we are told, impotently, that we will hold feet to the fire.

Every moment until the next most important election ever, no feet are held to the fire because 'it isn't the right time', "You/we should have thought about it before the election" Because "now we have to go with what we have" and besides, "It was the lesser evil"..

LOL!  You just listed a thorough list of reasons to vote for Donald Trump.    :beer:
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LOL!  You just listed a thorough list of reasons to vote for Donald Trump.    :beer:

And that's why few take you seriously. you really don't see a problem with repeated failure and how it resulted in the mess we're in..

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  I was a psychological examiner for twenty-five years and believe Trump's behavior is that of a mentally unstable person. 

Where and for whom, did you perform such duties?

What are your qualifications, and training?

What is the term for the condition which you claim Trump has?

I have never heard the term "psychological examiner," so I have no idea what it would entail, who it would be performed for and upon, etc.

Do you have any similar observations, about Cruz, Beck, Levin, Cruz' father or any of the other candidates on either side? About Hillary Clinton?
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Every election year we are told this is the most important country destroying election in the history of ever.

Every election year we hear some version of the lesser evil argument to avoid that country destroying whatever/whoever.

Every election year we are told this most important country destroying election ever is the reason to elect a liberal GOP Prez/Congressman/Senator because reasons. THIS TIME.

Every election year we are told 'next time' we can elect a conservative but that this most important election ever in the history of most important elections ever is too important...as if there were such a thing as an unimportant election.

Every year we are told, impotently, that we will hold feet to the fire.

Every moment until the next most important election ever, no feet are held to the fire because 'it isn't the right time', "You/we should have thought about it before the election" Because "now we have to go with what we have" and besides, "It was the lesser evil".

And as the next election approaches...

Every election year we are told this is the most important country destroying election in the history of ever.

Every election year we hear some version of the lesser evil argument to avoid that country destroying whatever/whoever.

Every election year we are told this most important country destroying election ever is the reason to elect a liberal GOP Prez/Congressman/Senator because reasons. THIS TIME.

Every election year we are told 'next time' we can elect a conservative but that this most important election ever in the history of most important elections ever is too important...as if there were such a thing as an unimportant election.

Every year we are told, impotently, that we will hold feet to the fire.

Every moment until the next most important election ever, no feet are held to the fire because 'it isn't the right time', "You/we should have thought about it before the election" Because "now we have to go with what we have" and besides, "It was the lesser evil"..
Bears repeating - a third time :seeya:

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Where and for whom, did you perform such duties?

What are your qualifications, and training?

What is the term for the condition which you claim Trump has?

I have never heard the term "psychological examiner," so I have no idea what it would entail, who it would be performed for and upon, etc.

Do you have any similar observations, about Cruz, Beck, Levin, Cruz' father or any of the other candidates on either side? About Hillary Clinton?
IMO, one doesn't have to have any special qualifications to diagnose or see the plain truth...

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