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Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« on: May 11, 2016, 10:39:38 pm »
Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas

Ted Cruz isn’t giving up.

While Donald Trump dispatches three advisers to Texas’s convention in Dallas this week and makes a pitch for party unity, his team will be running up against a Cruz operation that is still maneuvering to stuff the state’s delegation with allies the senator could call on to snub the presumptive nominee.

“We have a busy weekend planned,” said a source familiar with the Cruz campaign’s plans.

Cruz is scheduled to deliver an address at the Texas convention after a week of hinting he could jump back into the presidential contest and urging activists to thwart the New Yorker’s takeover of the GOP’s policy platform. And despite dropping out of the race more than a week ago, the vanquished presidential contender has deployed at least one paid adviser to the Texas Republican convention – Tyler Norris, his state director. (Trump has three advisers: state director Joshua Jones, deputy director Eric Mahroum and Houston-area director Kayla Hensley.)

It’s not just Texas where Cruz is still playing.

The senator’s team remains active in several of the other eight state conventions selecting delegates this week – from Nebraska to Oklahoma to Nevada. Those conventions, along with party meetings in Arkansas, Florida and Wisconsin, will be selecting 389 national delegates, nearly a sixth of the entire convention.

If Cruz were still working to send the nomination fight to a contested convention, this weekend’s delegate hunt would have been the main event – the largest single delegate selection weekend of the primary season. Now, it’s become a display of Cruz’s last hardcore bastions of support and a forum for Trump to appeal for unity.

Indeed, Trump’s campaign appears to be making moves to heal a fractured party ahead of a challenging general election campaign – sending emissaries to build relationships on Capitol Hill, reassessing policy proposals, and setting up meetings between the candidate and senior party leaders, including Wednesday’s sit-down with House Speaker Paul Ryan.

“The Trump campaign – they have to go unite Republicans. They’ve got to do that,” said Austin Barbour, a GOP leader in Mississippi, which is holding a convention this weekend. “I think he needs to go talk to the people who are Cruz people, who are Bush people. Donald Trump’s a bigtime underdog in this race. They need to tie down Republican votes and this weekend’s a good start for them.”

Ed Brookover, one of Trump’s top delegate advisers, is expected to attend the Mississippi gathering. Another top Trump adviser, Alan Cobb, will have a presence at Kansas’s state convention on Saturday – and although the state went strongly for Cruz, its delegation to Cleveland is now likely to feature a more neutral group that included Secretary of State Kris Kobach, a prominent Trump supporter.

Many state GOP leaders seem eager for that reunification. Oklahoma GOP chairwoman Pam Pollard noted that her state’s convention theme is “United We Stand.” Cruz may have beaten Trump in the state in March, but Pollard says she’s all in for the mogul now. In fact, Pollard said she volunteered in March to be a pro-Trump delegate to Cleveland to underscore the important of reuniting. “I wanted to send a clear signal back in March that we support all of our candidates,” she said. “No matter who our nominee is, we would support them.”

But Oklahoma’s convention gala on Friday night will also feature a keynote address from Cruz’s former running mate, Carly Fiorina. Fiorina was enlisted to speak long before Cruz selected her to be his vice presidential candidate, but her remarks haven’t been vetted yet.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/ted-cruz-donald-trump-texas-223090#ixzz48O9qdTQ4

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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2016, 10:42:25 pm »
Is Cruz trying to become the 21st century version of Harold Stassen?
Trump is for America First.
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2016, 10:54:34 pm »
Seeing that you are trying to perpetuate things; what part of Trump is the presumptive nominee don't you get??  Meanwhile ... Cruz IS back in the Senate.  He has announced that he will be seeking re-election of the Senate in 2018.  If you look at the picture in the article, the picture is from September of 2015 ... nearly a year old.  Good grief.

P.S.  In case you don't remember CRUZ WON TEXAS!
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2016, 10:57:15 pm »
Its not me its the Cruz people saying this per that Article.
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2016, 11:04:07 pm »
Its not me its the Cruz people saying this per that Article.

Wow.  The article also clearly states "If Cruz were still working to send the nomination fight to a contested convention, this weekend’s delegate hunt would have been the main event.

Not quite sure why you continue to goad this situation, however, I'm done. 
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2016, 11:18:25 pm »
Article is a  big nothing.

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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2016, 11:19:03 pm »
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2016, 11:27:43 pm »
Cruz only suspended his campaign. It doesn't mean he abandoned his fight for principles and to take those conservative principles to the convention. Trump still has to fight to get enough delegates to win on the first ballot.
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2016, 01:30:58 pm »
As Trump exposes his liberal tendencies and narcissism each day, I am still hoping that delegates with a conscious will not vote for him at the convention. :0001:
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2016, 01:39:39 pm »
Is Cruz trying to become the 21st century version of Harold Stassen?

LOL. You really are uninformed.

Stassen's legacy is that he was a perennial candidate. Ran for President from '48 till his death. The person who is known for delegate maneuvers after suspending his campaign...........Ronald Reagan in '76.

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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2016, 02:03:59 pm »
"While Donald Trump dispatches three advisers to Texas’s convention in Dallas this week and makes a pitch for party unity, his team will be running up against a Cruz operation that is still maneuvering to stuff the state’s delegation with allies the senator could call on to snub the presumptive nominee."

This is just sound strategy, but if (most likely,when) Trump gets to 1237, it will not matter, and he will be the nominee.
if, for some bizarre reason, Trump dropped out, wouldn't it be wise to garner all the support you can going into the convention?
Also, have place 2nd, he would want to insure that some of the ideas that he supported would make it to the party platform.
This in not a "steal" or a "coup" or "rigging" things, this is quite normal.
In the past, others who have ran and came up short have wanted to make sure their votes were not ignored on the party platform, given keynote speeches in prime time, etc.


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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2016, 03:00:52 pm »
At the Texas State convention, each Congressional District Caucus will elect 3 national delegates and alternates to represent them.  Each person running for the position will be expected to clearly state their candidate and platform positions in their speeches.  Each Caucus will also elect a member to serve on the Nominations Committee which will nominate and vote for the 44 at-large delegates(and alternates). This slate will still need to be approved by the whole convention in the the Nominations Report. 

Each delegate is still bound to vote on the 1st ballot according to the primary results. (Cruz-104, Trump-48, Rubio-3).  I would expect almost all of the delegates elected to be favorable to Cruz.  There very likely won't be a 2nd ballot, but it's important to have solid conservative national delegates voting on the rules and platform.

I also thought TOS Owner's comments on this article were rather juvenile and out of ignorance.
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2016, 04:59:18 pm »
Each delegate is still bound to vote on the 1st ballot according to the primary results. (Cruz-104, Trump-48, Rubio-3).  I would expect almost all of the delegates elected to be favorable to Cruz.  There very likely won't be a 2nd ballot, but it's important to have solid conservative national delegates voting on the rules and platform.

I will laugh like like crazy when the supposed Trump delegates pass a GOP platform and rules that Trump refuses to support. Serves him right going in uneducated about the process.
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2016, 04:16:39 am »
As Trump exposes his liberal tendencies and narcissism each day, I am still hoping that delegates with a conscious will not vote for him at the convention. :0001:

Me, too.  I hope we do have some fireworks at the Convention and that Trump fails to get the nomination.

Anyone we could select would be better than Trump and Cruz would actually be able to beat Hillary.

Trump cannot do that.
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2016, 04:27:11 am »
Anyone we could select would be better than Trump and Cruz would actually be able to beat Hillary.

How is it possible you believe Ted Cruz could win against Hillary after the majority of Republicans so decisively rejected him?

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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2016, 12:52:40 pm »
How is it possible you believe Ted Cruz could win against Hillary after the majority of Republicans so decisively rejected him?
How is it possible that Trump could win, when he couldn't even get 50% of the Minority party even with Dem help?
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2016, 12:57:41 pm »
How is it possible that Trump could win, when he couldn't even get 50% of the Minority party even with Dem help?
This narrative leaves out it was not a one-on one race like with the Democrats. there were 16 other candidates and as more were defeated his numbers rose. Get another talking point. This one assumes Americans are too stupid to to do simple math: 1/16 vs 1/3. This is ignoring the 65 thousand attack ads running 24/7.
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2016, 12:59:17 pm »
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2016, 01:07:39 pm »
This narrative leaves out it was not a one-on one race like with the Democrats. there were 16 other candidates and as more were defeated his numbers rose. Get another talking point. This one assumes Americans are too stupid to to do simple math: 1/16 vs 1/3. This is ignoring the 65 thousand attack ads running 24/7.
If Trump can't withstand the thousands of attack ads, how will he beat Hillary, running on the same policies?

Simple math...Trump can't even win 60% of the minority party vote even with NO other candidate. If the GOP is less than 50% of the registered voters, how will he get 50% of all voters? The Dem base won't abandon their candidate as much as The GOP will theirs, especially if he runs to the left of the watered down GOP platform. He's already lost 50% of the core conservatives, which are about 40% of the electorate.
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2016, 01:25:32 pm »
If Trump can't withstand the thousands of attack ads, how will he beat Hillary, running on the same policies?

Simple math...Trump can't even win 60% of the minority party vote even with NO other candidate. If the GOP is less than 50% of the registered voters, how will he get 50% of all voters? The Dem base won't abandon their candidate as much as The GOP will theirs, especially if he runs to the left of the watered down GOP platform. He's already lost 50% of the core conservatives, which are about 40% of the electorate.

The bubble you are citing is wrong. He has pulled over 60 several times now. Get up to speed. Hes neck and neck right now with Hillary. You do not have any valid talking point here. And no, $neverTrump is not core conservatives and never was. It is some Cruz people but mostly Establishment Rinos/Democrats. And in case you have not noticed $neverTrump is very small in number and shrinking.

Reality is nobody you supported even came close to beating the Democrats in real world numbers. How could they when they could not win the GOP base? Oh in case you failed to notice, he not only handled the 65 Thousand attack ads, negative press etc he thrived and won.
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Re: Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2016, 05:18:23 pm »
The bubble you are citing is wrong. He has pulled over 60 several times now.

The only times he's gotten over 50% is in his own back yard of traditional blue states an a couple more after there was no competition. If Dems hold blue states, he can't win enough electoral votes. He has to turn some, but where? Just like AlGore, it isn't the total vote count. He has to win STATES to get the Electoral count. He can poll ahead of Hillary nationally, but again, doesn't mean anything unless he can turn blue states red. The only help he can get doing that is IF she gets indicted. But how many think she ever will?
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"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.� ? Laurence J. Peter, The Peter Principle
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.� ? Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy