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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #75 on: May 10, 2016, 09:56:20 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on May 10, 2016, 09:35:02 pm
Exactly. So here we are. Two "liberals." The question is whether either is tolerable.

You are too kind.

I think that what we have is a Populist/Fascist and a Marxist/Communist as the heir's apparent to the throne that the GOP and the Democrat party have enabled for the Executive.

We get a Statist-Dictator with no regard for the Constitution or the limits on power in both of them.

They are going to "save" the country, and/or make it great again for certain select peoples who bend the knee.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #76 on: May 10, 2016, 10:29:09 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 10, 2016, 02:26:37 pm
To insult Trump is to insult his voters.---Jack Cashill.

Wonderful. A writer for a publication calling itself The American Thinker makes a case that calling
him a thinker means you're speaking with a lisp. This isn't a thinker, this is a man making his
own small contribution to the contingency that would stifle, not sustain debate and dissent.

Many have been the most intelligent people around who have voted for charlatans unworthy of their
intelligence. This year we have two such charlatans. And hosts of intelligent people supporting them
who are far worthier than the charlatans of their choice.

#NeverTrumpOrHillary

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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #77 on: May 10, 2016, 11:02:14 pm »
Quote from: EasyAce on May 10, 2016, 10:29:09 pm

@EasyAce


Why are you attributing the quote to me?
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #78 on: May 10, 2016, 11:05:39 pm »
I'm sorry, but myself and millions of other Americans are not voting for Donald Trump.
He is an idiot, he has no plan, he is an obvious liberal and in no way shape or form does he represent me. When I see him and Hillary side by side, I see them as twins. They are the exact same.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #79 on: May 10, 2016, 11:08:24 pm »
Trump is not above insults.

Trump should be criticized when he is wrong, which is very often.

Conservatives who find Trump to be unpalatable have every right to say it and to not support his candidacy.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #80 on: May 10, 2016, 11:50:40 pm »
Quote from: Bruce Campbells Chin on May 10, 2016, 02:37:48 pm
That is absolute crap right there, and honestly, it's the kind of argument that really pisses me off because it is so damn disingenuous.

This guy is essentially saying that he is voting for Trump because he thinks Hillary is worse.  I can respect that opinion, and not look down on a person who votes for Trump for that reason.  But how does that preclude insulting Trump himself?  Heck, I might end up voting for him for the same reason, yet I can go all day ripping him up and down.  So am I insulting myself if I insult Trump?  Voters - especially voters in a general election -- are only presented with two candidates who have a realistic chance to win, and choosing one of those two candidates over the other does not mean that you agree with everything that candidate has said or done.  So it is entirely possible to insult/despise Trump without insulting/despising everyone who decides to vote for the guy.

I can't believe anyone is either 1) dumb enough, or 2) dishonest enough, to make that argument with a straight face.

And on top of that, it also means that everyone who insulted any other candidate during the primary was also insulting the voters who supported that candidate.  Hogwash.  Talk about a "safe-space" bit of whining....

One of two posters here I have on ignore. She ain't a he!
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #81 on: May 11, 2016, 12:05:46 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 10, 2016, 11:02:14 pm
@EasyAce


Why are you attributing the quote to me?

A mere editing mistake, my friend. I'll fix it now.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #82 on: May 11, 2016, 12:20:48 am »
Quote from: EasyAce on May 11, 2016, 12:05:46 am
A mere editing mistake, my friend. I'll fix it now.

Thanks .... appreciate it!
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #83 on: May 11, 2016, 12:23:58 am »
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #84 on: May 11, 2016, 12:28:49 am »
Trump can't even get 70% in a one candidate race in West Virginia. What does that tell you?
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #85 on: May 11, 2016, 12:41:37 am »
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #86 on: May 11, 2016, 12:44:39 am »
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #87 on: May 11, 2016, 12:46:26 am »
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #88 on: May 11, 2016, 12:58:23 am »
Quote from: Spook on May 10, 2016, 11:05:39 pm
I'm sorry, but myself and millions of other Americans are not voting for Donald Trump.
He is an idiot, he has no plan, he is an obvious liberal and in no way shape or form does he represent me. When I see him and Hillary side by side, I see them as twins. They are the exact same.

An idiot? The candidate who supports the 2nd Amendment, our military and secure borders?   :thud:
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #89 on: May 11, 2016, 01:05:36 am »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 11, 2016, 12:58:23 am
An idiot? The candidate who supports the 2nd Amendment, our military and secure borders?   :thud:
He can say he supports all he wants.  He still has no policy papers or proven history. Even on ORielly tonight, he couldn't answer simple questions on whether he is against abortion. He would only say he would appoint justices. Wishy washy at best!
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #90 on: May 11, 2016, 01:05:43 am »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 11, 2016, 12:58:23 am
An idiot? The candidate who supports the 2nd Amendment, our military and secure borders?   :thud:

There are people living off the grid in northern Idaho that believe in all of that. Doesn't make them Presidential material, much less intelligent.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #91 on: May 11, 2016, 01:12:01 am »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on May 11, 2016, 01:05:36 am
He can say he supports all he wants.  He still has no policy papers or proven history. Even on ORielly tonight, he couldn't answer simple questions on whether he is against abortion. He would only say he would appoint justices. Wishy washy at best!

You can say he doesn't support all you want. Does that make you an idiot?

Trump policy papers. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #92 on: May 11, 2016, 01:14:38 am »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 11, 2016, 01:12:01 am
You can say he doesn't support all you want. Does that make you an idiot?

Trump policy papers. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
I didn't say he doesn't support. I said that's all he says. No substance to is words.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #93 on: May 11, 2016, 01:17:46 am »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on May 11, 2016, 01:05:36 am
He can say he supports all he wants.  He still has no policy papers or proven history. Even on ORielly tonight, he couldn't answer simple questions on whether he is against abortion. He would only say he would appoint justices. Wishy washy at best!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/anti-gun-control-rally-albany-brings-trump-article-1.1742627
http://dennismichaellynch.com/must-see-donald-trumps-position-on-the-blm/

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Proof That Donald Trump IS THE REAL DEAL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmHwLaOloh4

I do not expect the Devote Cruzers to look at any of this. But if truth matters...


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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #94 on: May 11, 2016, 01:24:05 am »
Quote from: Mechanicos on May 11, 2016, 01:17:46 am
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/anti-gun-control-rally-albany-brings-trump-article-1.1742627
http://dennismichaellynch.com/must-see-donald-trumps-position-on-the-blm/

Ignorance can be cured with knowledge.
Proof That Donald Trump IS THE REAL DEAL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmHwLaOloh4

I do not expect the Devote Cruzers to look at any of this. But if truth matters...




Truth does matter, which is why only fools put their trust in a man whose main negotiating tactic is feeding his marks "truthful hyperbole" - more truthfully known as lies - and ignore his long history of liberalism. 

As far as position papers go, they're like plagiarized term papers: a dime a dozen on the Internet.  Does anyone seriously think he actually wrote those things, or even significantly contributed to them?  I don't, and I don't see any objective evidence that says otherwise. 
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #95 on: May 11, 2016, 01:24:11 am »
Trump is nothing more than a pied piper


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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #96 on: May 11, 2016, 01:26:11 am »


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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #97 on: May 11, 2016, 01:26:17 am »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 11, 2016, 01:24:05 am
Truth does matter, which is why only fools put their trust in a man whose main negotiating tactic is feeding his marks "truthful hyperbole" - more truthfully known as lies - and ignore his long history of liberalism. 

As far as position papers go, they're like plagiarized term papers: a dime a dozen on the Internet.  Does anyone seriously think he actually wrote those things, or even significantly contributed to them?  I don't, and I don't see any objective evidence that says otherwise.
Agree wholeheartedly. Trump can't even regurgitate any substance from his papers because there isn't any.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #98 on: May 11, 2016, 01:26:23 am »
No personal attacks...you know that A-Lert

RetBobbyMI.....I edited your post also
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #99 on: May 11, 2016, 01:54:32 am »
Quote from: Mechanicos on May 11, 2016, 01:17:46 am
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Proof That Donald Trump IS THE REAL DEAL!

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