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"Say what one will, but Trump won fair and square."
It's not just the GOP brand that Trump is obliterating, it's political conservatism.Recall that he went into Wisconsin - one of the spectacular and hardest won GOP/Conservative success stories in recent memory - and trashed the accomplishments of Scott Walker and the Republican Legislature in front of a Janesville crowd of spittle-laden UAW blue-fist monkeys. He's a cancer and his supporters are, by and large, arsonists and vandals.
So did Obama.Twice. I guess we should have all fallen in line behind him as well.
Trump's crude insults of his opponents lead to Trump's supporters crude insults of his opponent's supporters.It as if we went through a bloodbath to pick our team captain. Now the captain and those who supported him realize that they may have to forfeit, because they don't have enough team members left to field a lineup. Some have stayed with the team and the rest of them have all gone off to become free agents.Half of the Captain's supporters say"Go ahead and leave, see if I care!", while the other half say "You can't leave or the other team wins!"
My initial reaction to Trump's crude insults of his opponents was positive. It was so unusual. As the primaries progressed I began to realize why candidates would go out of their way to avoid insulting their opponents. If they won the nomination they would need allies and making your opponents bitter enemies would make that pretty tough. Trump and his followers have created this mess. Now they are finding that a lot of the voters who supported other candidates are not going to jump on the "Trump train".
If Trump loses there is an opportunity to rally around a real conservative in 2020, transform the GOP into a conservative oriented party, and win the POTUS.
You're right. Trump's supporters mimic their leader. It's pretty sad that we've come to the point where the only way to win is to not play. Conservatives will remain a minority if Trump wins. If Trump loses there is an opportunity to rally around a real conservative in 2020, transform the GOP into a conservative oriented party, and win the POTUS. Hillary is a disaster, but at least a Pub held House will offer some resistance with Trump they will follow along if for no other reason than Trump would be the head of the party.
To insult Trump is to insult his voters
The way I see it is this: If Trump wins, then we are stuck with a Democrat for the next twelve years - four years of Trump followed by eight years of whoever the Dems nominate in 2020. If Trump loses, then we are stuck with a Democrat for only four years, and an excellent chance of defeating the Dems in 2020.
I don't share your optimism. If the House hasn't lifted a finger to stop Obama's criminal actions, why would they try to stop Hillary Clinton? Answer: They won't. Meanwhile, Clinton will step up the attacks on conservatives, and make the IRS scandal look like a garden party. There won't BE a conservative movement by 2020.You are forgetting the GOP has not acted like an opposition party for the past eight years. In private, they want the same things Obama wanted, and Clinton wants for the future. Face it: We don't have a party at all, in the true sense of the word.
Some of anti-Trump crowd hates Trump so viscerally that they feel justified in whatever approach they take. And they see a like response as being unreasoned, and unfair. Just as another poster said, insults of Trump are meant for his supporters as well, and the insults won't stop. To what end? What purpose does that serve, beyond trying to salve an irrational, emotional wound?
Geez! Haven't we talked about his "hand size" enough?
When Trump stops his insults, we'll stop ours. I have no doubt he'll never stop.Not an emotional wound. Every single day Trump presents an opportunity to ratify why I'm #NeverTrump.
I disagree with Trump and Sanders. Trade deficits are not a bad thing when those exported dollars end up being re-imported as investment dollars.
Yep. Saw this after my last response. Very well said.
Hi Luis! That's exactly what the liberals have been hollering for the past seven, now eight, years. "I won, so STFU and get in the back of the bus!" I have no intention of falling into anybody's line, and I'd like to see them try and shut me up. Heck, that would be the case even if it was somebody I actually liked.
That's exactly what the liberals have been hollering for the past seven, now eight, years. "I won, so STFU and get in the back of the bus!"
Well, Trump's a liberal, so . . .
Exactly. So here we are. Two "liberals." The question is whether either is tolerable.
