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Army Approves 22 Women to Commission as Infantry and Armor Branch Officers

https://www.army.mil/article/166203/Army_Approves_22_Women_to_Commission_as_Infantry_and_Armor_Branch_Officers/

April 15, 2016

By   Army G1 Public Affairs

WASHINGTON (April 15, 2016) - The Army approved requests from 22 women from the Army's three traditional officer accession programs - Officer Candidate School (OCS), Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC) and the United States Military Academy (USMA) - to enter as 2nd Lieutenants into the Infantry and Armor branches. Thirteen will enter into the Armor branch and nine will enter into the Infantry branch in the coming weeks as commissioning and commencement ceremonies occur across the country.

Commissioning serves as the first step in the process to become a qualified Army officer. After commissioning, women selected to serve in Infantry and Armor will conduct branch-specific initial training for several months at Fort Benning, Georgia. Once the branch-specific training is successfully completed, the officers will report to their first units of assignment qualified to assume duties as platoon leaders in Armor or Infantry units.

All 22 women must complete the remaining training requirements and standards before fully qualifying as Infantry and Armor officers.

The Army is also seeking applications from Army Competitive Category female officers from Year Groups 2014 and 2015 interested in a branch transfer into Infantry or Armor from their current duties. Those selected to serve are expected to be announced near the end of June.

For more information, contact Lt. Col. Jerry Pionk, Army G1 Public Affairs at 703-692-1281 or Jerome.l.pionk.mil@mail.mil.
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The army seems to be nothing more than affirmative action playground for leftists these days.

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As a former infantry NCO, I can confirm this is a bad, bad idea?
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Back in 1976, I was in one of the 10 university ROTC programs that were open girls (well women in today's vernacular). Didn't have a problem with it, but after the the program expanded to other universities and to West Point within a year or two after that, they came up with seperate standards for women. The PT standards, even today are much more relaxed for women than for men. I have no problem with women in service, but to have seperate standards just because they are women? Come on! To do a job in the military, it should take certain standards, regardless of gender.

Now, as a "butter bar" in the Infantry, Armor or any combat support branch, their leadership will have to be earned even more so than men, just because. It's hard enough to be a respected second lieutenant.
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Back in 1976, I was in one of the 10 university ROTC programs that were open girls (well women in today's vernacular). Didn't have a problem with it, but after the the program expanded to other universities and to West Point within a year or two after that, they came up with seperate standards for women. The PT standards, even today are much more relaxed for women than for men. I have no problem with women in service, but to have seperate standards just because they are women? Come on! To do a job in the military, it should take certain standards, regardless of gender.

Now, as a "butter bar" in the Infantry, Armor or any combat support branch, their leadership will have to be earned even more so than men, just because. It's hard enough to be a respected second lieutenant.

Seems to me that Obama is pushing the liberal "favored groups" into position through force and "diversity training".

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The army seems to be nothing more than affirmative action playground for leftists these days.

That's all we ever are when the Liberals get ahold of us and run things.

It's not going to get better for us after this election cycle either.
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Seems to me that Obama is pushing the liberal "favored groups" into position through force and "diversity training".

The fact that it is being done 'by force' is exactly why it will fail, and fall away into the trash heap of history once we get a 'real person' back in charge of the country. Obama is a cartoon character. He is a caricature of a far Left, pie in the sky, hippy, who is not grounded in real reality. He creates his reality as he goes, not as things are, but as he 'wishes' things to be. That is why all of his 'edicts' contradict objective reality and basic human nature.

Obama is a psychotic personality who believes that 'truth' is what he says it is regardless of facts, and reality is what he wants it to be, regardless of outcome and constant failure.

This, like all of his crazy bathroom stuff, will all normalize once he is gone. Obama cannot change millions of years of evolution and human nature with a word, just because he wants it to be so. Are there women who are great in combat? Of course there are. But it must be recognized that this is an anomaly and is not the norm.

Men will act lewd and molest girls in the women's bathroom. And, no matter what rank Obama gives a woman, or what combat designation Obama forces on them, I have no doubt that they will still call a guy to kill a spider for them. I do not say this in any kind of a pejorative way. That is simply how things are and are meant to be. And I for one, like it that way.

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Where was there any kind of consultation with Congress over this? 
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Where was there any kind of consultation with Congress over this?

Two points:

1. Obama does not now and has never felt the need to consult with Congress about anything.

2. Any time Obama does consult with Congress, Republican or Democrat controlled, all they ever do is pass whatever he wants anyway, so it is a waste of time that even Obama has come to regard as a joke.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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Congress did repeal the statutory combat exclusion on women a number of years ago, which opened up the military to this kind of action by the President as Commander in Chief.

IIRC that was done in the last couple years of the Billy Jeff administration.

That was the last time that the DACOWITS Zealots held sway over stuff like this.
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This process is exactly why "just give them a chance, and only let in the women who can make it" is so dumb.  Those women are going to be taking up slots in combat arms MOS' for which men are statistically more likely to meet the physical requirements.  So when that higher female washout percentage hits, you've got to move that higher percentage of washed out females into other MOS's and they'll have to start new schools all over again.  And you'll end up graduating fewer combat arms officers from those courses, which means staffing will be short.

That is, unless the standards are lowered so far that the male/female passage and injury rates are exactly equal, in which case you might as well just run up the white flag.

You can bet your ass the standards will be lowered....despite all the protestations to the contrary from the suits in DC.  If they aren't then their little bit of social engineering will be a failure.  Just like those female Ranger grads that got several more chances to complete the phases they failed than their male counterparts.

At one point we were hearing that all of them had washed out.  Then suddenly two were allowed to continue.

The unmentioned effect is that it will deter potential male candidates from enlisting period.  Which I think has been the goal of all this social engineering all along.  To break the will of those currently serving and dissuade anyone from walking through the recruiters door.
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Two points:

1. Obama does not now and has never felt the need to consult with Congress about anything.

2. Any time Obama does consult with Congress, Republican or Democrat controlled, all they ever do is pass whatever he wants anyway, so it is a waste of time that even Obama has come to regard as a joke.

And the GOPe is explicitly complicit !
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The even sadder part if the electorate is complicit.  There is little/no outrage about this, and if you talk to a lot of people -- particularly younger ones -- they'll just say "if they can meet the same standards, they should be allowed in", without examining if that is even possible.

The views of the GOP-e and the rest of Washington simply reflect the views of most of the citizenry on this issue.  Notice how not a single one of the GOP candidates chose to make this an issue, at any point?  Cruz said a few things and then dropped it quickly.
And now on top of this we have the Feds pushing unisex bathrooms.  What next?  This country has lost its culture.
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"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.� ? Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy

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Where was there any kind of consultation with Congress over this?

You don't think that buff, muscle bound, piece of manhood who runs the House would stop him, do you? :whistle: