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I Am Going To Vote For Trump Though It Makes Me Want To Projectile Vomit
Kurt Schlichter
5/9/2016 12:01:00 AM - Kurt Schlichter

I intend to vote for Donald Trump, and just typing those words makes me throw up a little. Make that a lot, and for distance. Yeah, I know Trump is a clown, but so is Hillary Clinton, and while he’s sort of an irascible and tacky Ronald McDonald, she is freaking Pennywise.

Now, if you want to see my Trump-slamming bona fides, you can Google my CNN appearances where I was the go-to conservative who would reliably trash the loudmouth Republican nominee until I dared attack Hillary and mussed their carefully coiffed narrative. But I haven't changed my mind about anything I said. Trump is terrible. It's just that I believe Hillary is infinitely worse.

About 90% of my friends are in the #NeverTrump category. Hell, my wife is #NeverTrump. This is understandable since I hang with a lot of hard-core conservatives and similar quality people. They tell me it's an act of principle to refuse to vote for Trump, and I agree - completely and without reservation. No sarcasm here – believe me, I get it.

So don't look at me to argue with them. We all have limits as to what we can stomach, and Trump is the acid reflux disease of Republican politics. Maybe being a trial lawyer has immunized me to weaponized stupidity, but Trump is still a grassy knoll conspiracy theory or two away from me doing the ostrich thing until about January 2021.

What would I argue to my principled anti-Trump friends even if I were so inclined? That he's not more liberal than I like? That he's not a vulgar buffoon? That he's the heir to Ronald Reagan? Not remotely. No, if Trump wants their votes, he can rebuild the bridges out of the ashes he created.

But I have principles too, and a key one is not electing a man-hating progressive fascist who has the liberal infrastructure behind her that can make her goose-stepping dreams actually come true. Trump is a one-off loner who Congress could contain. Hillary Clinton has eager allies and potentially the Senate and, God forbid, the House behind her. She's just malignant and stupid enough to start people shooting, while all Trump could do is get us yelling. Slight advantage, Trump.

Sadly, the #NeverTrump crew has inherited some of the establishment clowns who created the opening for The Donald. They are less upset about ideology than saving their place at the trough. When in this century did the likes of Common Core advocate Jeb “Act of Love” Bush ever fight for actual conservatism? The despicable Lindsey Graham broke his promise to support the GOP nominee, a promise he made knowing it might mean he would have to support Trump. Both Lindsey and I were colonels – maybe I’m old-fashioned, but in my military, officers are expected to keep their word. Regardless, way to go, Little Lord Lindsey – you showed those GOP voters who are sick of being lied to by politicians who say one thing during the campaign then shamelessly do the exact opposite afterwards that they were entirely right. If the principles of #NeverTrump include breaking your word – and I don’t believe they do – then I’m clearly not cut out for it. Even the harshest anti-Trump diehard needs to step up and repudiate this fork-tongued weasel.

A couple of people on Twitter announced they won't follow me anymore because I'm not #NeverTrump. The loss of their cat-related tweets is a sacrifice I will make. A majority of my friends disagree with me and kind of shake their heads, but none have given me any grief. They aren't jerks.

Nor will I be a jerk, at least not more than usual, though I disagree with their strategy and tactics. I'm not going to be condescending and say that I expect a significant number of them to change their minds over the next few months as the socialist nightmare of Hillary's America comes more sharply into view. I don’t, though it could happen. And Trump could easily go an idiocy too far and I could join #NeverTrump.

I think Trump has a significant chance of actually winning the election because of the way he breaks the rules. Of course, the way he breaks the rules is also the way he most annoys me. I cast my first presidential vote for Ronald Reagan, but sadly the Gipper is not on the ticket, nor are any of his heirs. I don't regret the thousands of dollars I gave to Ted Cruz, but in November I will have a choice, and I will eagerly embrace the one least likely to plunge our country into the darkness of perpetual socialism and violent convulsions.

In law, one of the two sides always loses. In war, bad things happen and you are left with suboptimal courses of action. We didn't ask to be dealt these cards, but here they are – we drew a six and a joker and the dealer is showing a ten. So the question presented is whether are we going to let Hillary win by default, or whether are we going to try and help Trump.

I choose to vote for Trump not because I like the cut of his jib but because Hillary Clinton is an extinction-level menace who is likely to literally destroy the United States of America. We're strong enough to deal with an idiot. I don't think our culture is strong enough to deal with a committed, focused leftist monster like her. That’s my reasoning. That’s why he will get my vote. That’s the only reason he will get my vote.

Funny, but I'm in California so my vote really won't matter, and it would've been easy to just call myself #NeverTrump and not take any grief. But besides defeating Hillary, my other principle is not being a wuss and hiding what I think.

So if you decide unfollow me on social media, that's your loss because I'm absolutely hysterical. But it's also your loss in a larger sense, because someday there's going to be another election and we're all going to need to work together. Trump fans, Trump foes – it may not seem like it in the days following the departure of a true hero like Ted Cruz but we have much, much more in common than what divides us. 2020 is coming no matter what happens. We’ll need to stand together again then. But right now, you have to follow your conscience and I have to follow mine. Even if I have to keep down my lunch.
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Go ahead if you must! I won't join you! I CAN'T join you!
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I'll vote third party or write-in.  A vote for Trump is a vote for same-old, same-old liberalism.

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And Trump could easily go an idiocy too far and I could join #NeverTrump.
If a man jokes about wanting to date his own daughter and cuts off another for not growing big enough boobs as a teenager, and you're still willing to give him your vote, there's nothing that can go too far.

He admits that in California, his vote is entirely drowned out. His vote for Trump stops no one and does nothing, yet he still is willing to do it.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is betrayal.
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I'll vote third party or write-in.  A vote for Trump is a vote for same-old, same-old liberalism.

Quite true.  And a Hillary Clinton victory promises fascism. 

This is one of those "least worst choices" sorts of situations.  We can almost certainly survive a Trump presidency (especially since impeachment seems not unlikely...).  But I doubt we could say the same about a Clinton presidency.

I'm still holding out the forlorn hope that the Convention might undercut Trump in some manner.  But failing that.... Son, we just cannot let Hillary Clinton become president.

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Quite true.  And a Hillary Clinton victory promises fascism. 

This is one of those "least worst choices" sorts of situations.  We can almost certainly survive a Trump presidency (especially since impeachment seems not unlikely...).  But I doubt we could say the same about a Clinton presidency.

I'm still holding out the forlorn hope that the Convention might undercut Trump in some manner.  But failing that.... Son, we just cannot let Hillary Clinton become president.

A Trump presidency would be indistinguishable from a Clinton presidency where it counts.  Only the trivial details, like name of the White House hair stylist, will differ. 

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A Trump presidency would be indistinguishable from a Clinton presidency where it counts.  Only the trivial details, like name of the White House hair stylist, will differ.

Uh huh.  Trump is a narcissistic horse's ass, and that's why it's doubtful he'd be able to get anything done.

Clinton, on the other hand, is both a criminal and an out-and-out fascist, with fascist enablers in her party and in the media. 

You're sure you can't tell the difference? 

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Uh huh.  Trump is a narcissistic horse's ass, and that's why it's doubtful he'd be able to get anything done.

Clinton, on the other hand, is both a criminal and an out-and-out fascist, with fascist enablers in her party and in the media. 

You're sure you can't tell the difference?

Hillary Clintoon and Donald Trump are both neck deep is the Clintoon Crime syndicate! There is literally NO distance between them! Six of one or a half dozen of the other!
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Hillary Clintoon and Donald Trump are both neck deep is the Clintoon Crime syndicate! There is literally NO distance between them! Six of one or a half dozen of the other!

Ah, but there IS distance -- that's what the author is trying to tell you. 

One of these two will have no support in Congress or the media, and the other will have both. 

Clinton will be able to accomplish her goals.  Trump won't get much of anything done.

Which alternative would you rather have to deal with?

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Ah, but there IS distance -- that's what the author is trying to tell you. 

One of these two will have no support in Congress or the media, and the other will have both. 

Clinton will be able to accomplish her goals.  Trump won't get much of anything done.

Which alternative would you rather have to deal with?

Neither!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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If a man jokes about wanting to date his own daughter and cuts off another for not growing big enough boobs as a teenager, and you're still willing to give him your vote, there's nothing that can go too far.

He admits that in California, his vote is entirely drowned out. His vote for Trump stops no one and does nothing, yet he still is willing to do it.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is betrayal.

Eh... unless an election gets down to a single vote, your vote is probably meaningless by that measure.
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Neither!

And I agree with you.

But come November, if (when) it's clear that one of those two will become the next president..... which one of those two horrible choices would you least want to see in the Oval Office?

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And I agree with you.

But come November, if (when) it's clear that one of those two will become the next president..... which one of those two horrible choices would you least want to see in the Oval Office?

Same answer!
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Ah, but there IS distance -- that's what the author is trying to tell you. 

One of these two will have no support in Congress or the media, and the other will have both. 

Clinton will be able to accomplish her goals.  Trump won't get much of anything done.

Which alternative would you rather have to deal with?
First off, the notion that Trump couldn't get anything done because he's so outrageous is a myth. Trump worked for NBC for over a decade and knows how to manipulate the media; we've already seen it this primary cycle. As for Congress, as the titular head of the Republican Party, already weak and willing to capitulate to anyone in power, Trump could push whatever he wants. Remember Bush? He could get any plan through Congress, no matter how bad it was. The GOP falls in line.

Trump poses just as much of a threat as Clinton.
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Eh... unless an election gets down to a single vote, your vote is probably meaningless by that measure.
In swing states such as Florida and Ohio, the margin of victory is typically small enough that small bands of voters, enough to populate one or two social circles, have enough clout to swing an election.

But in an Electoral College system where deep-red and deep-blue states have so many voters ingrained to vote one way, the notion of voting to stop somebody is meaningless. Voting for Trump in California would almost certainly still lead to Hillary Clinton winning all of the votes.
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There is not one palatable thing about Trump. Not one redeeming feature.

I would never vote for someone just because there is an R next to the name. Doing that is a wasted vote.

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There is not one palatable thing about Trump. Not one redeeming feature.

I would never vote for someone just because there is an R next to the name. Doing that is a wasted vote.

When we start compromising our principles for anything it's just a matter of time until we have none.
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In swing states such as Florida and Ohio, the margin of victory is typically small enough that small bands of voters, enough to populate one or two social circles, have enough clout to swing an election.

But in an Electoral College system where deep-red and deep-blue states have so many voters ingrained to vote one way, the notion of voting to stop somebody is meaningless. Voting for Trump in California would almost certainly still lead to Hillary Clinton winning all of the votes.

Has a swing election ever been decided by a single vote? Never.

However, advocating and influencing people *does* work, en mass.

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When we start compromising our principles for anything it's just a matter of time until we have none.

Uh huh.  And that sort of lofty idealism is exactly why Obama is finishing his second term.

You nimbly ducked the question of who you'd least like to see in the Oval Office.  Which tells me that you know the answer and were too proud to admit it: you know Clinton would be worse.

But you've got your principles. 

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I'm keeping my powder dry till Nov. before I decide.  Heck,  A lot can happen between now and then.  Trump ain't no spring chicken.  Some have said that orange skin could be a sign of Jaundice.  He  might be suffering from  liver disease such as hepatitis or liver cancer. They say it could indicate leptospirosis or obstruction of the biliary tract, for example by gallstones or pancreatic cancer. 

Who knows. ... all that clean living might be the end of him?

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Uh huh.  And that sort of lofty idealism is exactly why Obama is finishing his second term.

You nimbly ducked the question of who you'd least like to see in the Oval Office.  Which tells me that you know the answer and were too proud to admit it: you know Clinton would be worse.

But you've got your principles.
Does it occur to you that it is possible that two bad people can be equally as bad as each other, in their own ways? That is what we have here.
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Uh huh.  And that sort of lofty idealism is exactly why Obama is finishing his second term.

You nimbly ducked the question of who you'd least like to see in the Oval Office.  Which tells me that you know the answer and were too proud to admit it: you know Clinton would be worse.

But you've got your principles.

I've bought in to that  line for to long! This year with Trump it is just a bridge to far for me and I can't do it!

The way I  see it is six of one or a half dozen of the other! They are exactly the same!
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