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To best aid his electability, whom should Trump pick as his VP nominee?

Ted Cruz
2 (5.3%)
Marco Rubio
1 (2.6%)
John Kasich
3 (7.9%)
Susana Martinez, governor of NM
6 (15.8%)
Nikki Haley, governor of SC
2 (5.3%)
Scott Walker
4 (10.5%)
Mia Love (R-UT - US House)
1 (2.6%)
Rick Perry
1 (2.6%)
Jim Webb
3 (7.9%)
Someone else (please comment)
15 (39.5%)

Total Members Voted: 35

Voting closed: June 17, 2016, 10:23:56 pm

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Offline RetBobbyMI

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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #100 on: May 11, 2016, 10:21:02 pm »
Trump risks HIS base no matter which direction he goes.  If his picks someone from the right, he risks the Dems he wants to draw from.  If he goes left, he risks losing the NeverTrumps AND the maybeTrumps.  If he picks from HIS center, he risks losing the rest of the country.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #101 on: May 11, 2016, 11:50:31 pm »
Quote from: Neverdul on May 11, 2016, 09:17:41 pm
OK - you wanted some serious input….

Excellent post Neverdul.  Great analysis, without the one-liner BS.  I like Ryan and see where you're going with that.  Problem is he won't bring in the #nevertrumps as they don't think much of the Speaker.  Trump's problem as you pointed out is going too far to the right and walking away from the #neverhillary voters.  I still like Kasich and Martinez, as well as Haley, but I note your concern with Haley, again who might not bring in many #nevertrump votes.  But you've made some great, thought-provoking points.   :beer:

 
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #102 on: May 12, 2016, 05:10:29 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on May 11, 2016, 08:13:44 pm
Unfortunately, this fellow has gone on to his reward. It's a shame, because he and The Donald would have made a heck of a hair band, if not a presidential team.

Beam me up Scotty!
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #103 on: May 12, 2016, 11:51:02 am »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on May 12, 2016, 05:10:29 am
Beam me up Scotty!
Now there's an idea. Trump could tap Gov Brown from granola land and sandwich the country in left and right coast liberal though.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #104 on: May 12, 2016, 11:57:39 am »
Quote from: MACVSOG68 on May 11, 2016, 11:50:31 pm
Excellent post Neverdul.  Great analysis, without the one-liner BS.  I like Ryan and see where you're going with that.  Problem is he won't bring in the #nevertrumps as they don't think much of the Speaker.  Trump's problem as you pointed out is going too far to the right and walking away from the #neverhillary voters.  I still like Kasich and Martinez, as well as Haley, but I note your concern with Haley, again who might not bring in many #nevertrump votes.  But you've made some great, thought-provoking points.   :beer:

 

Excuse me?

Ryan's great as far as I'm concerned.  I hope he has the good sense to steer clear of a career-ending dalliance with the Orange Baboon.  He's also too much of an independent thinker, IMHO, and we know for a fact that Saint Donald hates people who don't kowtow to his personal commands. 
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #105 on: May 12, 2016, 11:58:58 am »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on May 12, 2016, 11:51:02 am
Now there's an idea. Trump could tap Gov Brown from granola land and sandwich the country in left and right coast liberal though.

Too bad he can't go for Ahhhnold, another liberal in republican clothing, if it's bicoastalism he wants. 
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #106 on: May 12, 2016, 12:26:47 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 12, 2016, 11:57:39 am
Excuse me?

Ryan's great as far as I'm concerned.  I hope he has the good sense to steer clear of a career-ending dalliance with the Orange Baboon.  He's also too much of an independent thinker, IMHO, and we know for a fact that Saint Donald hates people who don't kowtow to his personal commands.

You're excused.

I like Ryan too and believe he has a good future and will no doubt have presidential aspirations in the future.  But he has been excoriated by many on the right as a traitor to the GOP after the omnibus spending bill.  Selecting him for the VP slop wouldn't bring many from the right who've written Ryan off and even want him primaried.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #107 on: May 12, 2016, 01:00:38 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 12, 2016, 11:57:39 am
Excuse me?

Ryan's great as far as I'm concerned.  I hope he has the good sense to steer clear of a career-ending dalliance with the Orange Baboon.  He's also too much of an independent thinker, IMHO, and we know for a fact that Saint Donald hates people who don't kowtow to his personal commands.

Man...are you in for a surprise!      :whistle:
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #108 on: May 12, 2016, 04:27:51 pm »
Quote from: wolfcreek on May 11, 2016, 01:26:41 pm
Still be better than Hillary/Commie, La Raza.



If Hillary picks Julian Castro as VP, it is all over but the shouting, possibly for the next 16 years.

I've been saying that since this guy spoke at the Dem convention.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2016, 05:22:08 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on May 12, 2016, 04:27:51 pm
If Hillary picks Julian Castro as VP, it is all over but the shouting, possibly for the next 16 years.

I've been saying that since this guy spoke at the Dem convention.

His pick is almost a given.  Been talked about for a long time going back to 2012.  If Hillary isn't indicted, he could well bring her across the finish line.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #110 on: May 12, 2016, 06:27:31 pm »
Quote from: MACVSOG68 on May 12, 2016, 05:22:08 pm
His pick is almost a given.  Been talked about for a long time going back to 2012.  If Hillary isn't indicted, he could well bring her across the finish line.

He will bring her across the finish line.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #111 on: May 12, 2016, 07:18:13 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on May 12, 2016, 06:27:31 pm
He will bring her across the finish line.

I wouldn't bet against you, but in this election, nothing in history can predict this Fall campaign.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #112 on: May 12, 2016, 08:10:43 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on May 12, 2016, 04:27:51 pm
If Hillary picks Julian Castro as VP, it is all over but the shouting, possibly for the next 16 years.

I've been saying that since this guy spoke at the Dem convention.

He's a POS and you act as though we already lost.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #113 on: May 13, 2016, 02:42:10 am »
Quote from: wolfcreek on May 12, 2016, 08:10:43 pm
He's a POS and you act as though we already lost.

Yes, he's a POS.

Yes, we've already lost.
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« Reply #114 on: May 13, 2016, 02:44:39 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 12, 2016, 01:00:38 pm
Man...are you in for a surprise!      :whistle:

Yes massa, you gwine be da bes' massa evuh massa.  You be gwine tell dis po soul what best fo me.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #115 on: May 13, 2016, 03:17:06 am »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 10, 2016, 11:40:53 pm
Cruz is a politician. Trump obviously is NOT. Sad that you are unable to discern the difference.

Cruz is a Conservative.  Trump, Clinton, and Sanders  are not.  Sad that you are unable to discern the difference.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #116 on: May 13, 2016, 03:39:56 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 13, 2016, 03:17:06 am
Cruz is a Conservative.  Trump, Clinton, and Sanders  are not.  Sad that you are unable to discern the difference.

There are degrees of conservatism. Right wing ideologues will not win a national election now or the foreseeable future. Clinton and Sanders are left wing liberals. Trump is a moderate conservative who supports the 2nd Amendment and secure borders. A superior choice to either liberal. Sad that you are so blind.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #117 on: May 13, 2016, 07:58:20 am »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 13, 2016, 03:39:56 am
There are degrees of conservatism. Right wing ideologues will not win a national election now or the foreseeable future. Clinton and Sanders are left wing liberals. Trump is a moderate conservative who supports the 2nd Amendment and secure borders. A superior choice to either liberal. Sad that you are so blind.

Hillary was an unusually weak candidate who probably could have been beaten by either Cruz or now Trump, IMO. Just from what I've observed among friends the past few weeks.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #118 on: May 13, 2016, 03:27:30 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on May 13, 2016, 02:42:10 am
Yes, he's a POS.

Yes, we've already lost.

Confessions of your mouth......
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« Reply #119 on: May 13, 2016, 03:30:54 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 13, 2016, 03:17:06 am
Cruz is a Conservative.  Trump, Clinton, and Sanders  are not.  Sad that you are unable to discern the difference.


Sad you don't see the glaring differences.
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« Reply #120 on: May 13, 2016, 03:34:07 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 13, 2016, 07:58:20 am
Hillary was an unusually weak candidate who probably could have been beaten by either Cruz or now Trump, IMO. Just from what I've observed among friends the past few weeks.

That's true but, some posters here gave up on beating her long ago.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #121 on: May 13, 2016, 04:46:35 pm »
Quote from: wolfcreek on May 13, 2016, 03:34:07 pm
That's true but, some posters here gave up on beating her long ago.

No one here wants to see Hillary Clinton as our next President.   That's why so many of us have fought so hard to nominate someone other than Donald Trump.  It's up to Trump to overcome the doubts about his principles and temperament.  Otherwise it's Nixon vs. Nixon,  and I for one would rather just vote for Pat Toomey.   
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« Reply #122 on: May 13, 2016, 04:50:44 pm »
Quote from: wolfcreek on May 13, 2016, 03:34:07 pm
That's true but, some posters here gave up on beating her long ago.

Uh, no. We know that Hitlary and Donny are the same.
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« Reply #123 on: May 13, 2016, 06:12:04 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 13, 2016, 03:39:56 am
There are degrees of conservatism. Right wing ideologues will not win a national election now or the foreseeable future. Clinton and Sanders are left wing liberals. Trump is a moderate conservative who supports the 2nd Amendment and secure borders. A superior choice to either liberal. Sad that you are so blind.

So Trump is a moderate conservative in the tradition of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, and...Richard Nixon.

So in other words, he's GOPe.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #124 on: May 13, 2016, 06:58:26 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 13, 2016, 03:39:56 am
There are degrees of conservatism.

There is no degree of Conservatism that supports Kelo.  And there is no degree of Conservatism that defends taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood.


Quote from: A-Lert on May 13, 2016, 03:39:56 am
Clinton and Sanders are left wing liberals.

When it comes to Kelo, Trump lines up far to the left of Sanders.
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