On this site is a poll showing 61 percent of Cruz people supporting Trump and only 13 percent who will support Hillary.
When over 2/3rds move to Trump, you become the outlier.
And the logical fallacy raises its ugly head yet again. Not supporting Trump is not the same thing as supporting Clinton and someone who says otherwise is trying to use that old liberal standby of collective guilt.
Up until this year I was pretty much a party guy; but this year the party left me. The same appears to go for a number of other people here such as Once-ler and Navycando: party stalwarts whom the party has abandoned.
If the party nominated Clinton, then clearly nobody here would vote for her despite the fact that she was the party's nominee. Similarly, if David Duke were the party's nominee, I hope that nobody here would vote for him just because he was the party's nominee. The point is not that Trump is necessarily a Clinton or a Duke, but that there is definitely a point at which most members of the party, including stalwarts, would not vote for the nominee simply because that person was the nominee.
For a lot of us, that point has been reached. We have given the party a lot of leeway in terms of who it nominated, but we are not spineless and we are not sheep and we will not be pushed past the part of our principles. Donald Trump is beyond the pale.
For many of us, such as myself, we see no significant difference between Trump and Clinton. Both are liberals and both will in general end up with the same sorts of policies and the same sorts of nominees; the only difference will be how they get there. Clinton will get there forthrightly and will say it was her intention to get there. Trump will sidle into it and will claim that pragmatism or the exigencies of circumstance forced him to go there. But they will both end up at the same point.
How do I know? Because I lived in NYC during the entire reign of mayor Bloomberg, who was also an alleged republican from NYC. There are precious few differences and substantial similarities between Bloomberg and Trump. Both are republicans of convenience who magically and without any obvious philosophical reasons, suddenly morphed into republicans just before starting their campaigns. We know that Bloomberg did so because he wanted to be mayor, did not want to wait in line at the DNC for his turn, and knew that the NYC republicans were so desperate for a nominee that they would have nominated a ham sandwich if given the opportunity. We know that they are both big businessmen who made fortunes with eponymous businesses in the crony capitalist environment of NYC. We know that they have both espoused liberal views and policy preferences in the past.
In short, there are so many salient similarities that Bloomberg is a most reliable guide to what a President Trump would most likely do. And that guidance does not look good. Bloomberg was, and is, an implacable foe of the Second Amendment. Bloomberg was, and is, an advocate for the growth of the nanny state, including all manner of interference in the lives of individuals "for their own good." Michael Bloomberg was and is a climate change cultist and as mayor put into place a half-assed set of bicycle lanes that have created serious conflicts between bicycles and pedestrians (disclosure: I was hit twice by bicycles while using the cross walk to cross a bicycle lane because the riders simply chose to ignore the traffic lights; one of them even had the chutzpah to blame me for the accident). All in the name of the climate change religion.
Keep in mind, none of these things were blatantly apparent when Bloomberg was running for mayor; the clues were there however.
And now Trump is running exactly the same course. In fact, he's already showing off his true liberalism with his comment that he's in favor of raising the minimum wage.
So no, based on all of the evidence available to me, I see no real difference between Clinton and Trump because I see no difference between Trump and Bloomberg and Bloomberg definitely acted more or less as Clinton has, and will, act.
The equivalence is easy to state: Trump = Bloomberg; Bloomberg = Clinton; therefore, Trump = Clinton
I won't vote for Clinton and since i have very good reasons for believing that Trump is indistinguishable from Clinton where it matters, I won't vote for Trump. QED
