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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #175 on: May 10, 2016, 08:10:26 pm »
The great unknown is still the potential legal issues Hillary might face.  Past that if nothing changes, Hillary has Democrat Party that will come together.  Trump definitely won't have that; Cruz probably would.  Trump may over time have an easier time bringing in independents and possibly some Democrats.  Cruz likely would not.  But it's a long time until November.


I take it as a given that Trump would take a huge swath out of the Democrat base.   I've seen polls over the last six months indicating he would take between 16 and 25%  of the Black vote.    That alone will wipe out Hillary.   


I personally think he will get a huge chunk of the Democrat blue-collar vote.   
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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #176 on: May 10, 2016, 08:11:44 pm »
Pretty much what I just posted a few seconds ago.  But Cruz can learn, and if he's still interested next time around, he should shave off the rough edges, demonstrate some ability to be flexible with his colleagues, and broaden his view of the issues and their resolution.  Because at that time he may well find a more mature, better polished Rubio also in the game.

I just don't believe Cruz is capable of changing. That's why I believe he would make a great jurist.

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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #177 on: May 10, 2016, 08:12:08 pm »
Cruz comes across as cold, hard detached and impersonal. He can't help it. Many people who have spent the majority of their lives with their heads in books aren't particularly sociable. Trump has the outgoing, sociable personality. He's comfortable and used to dealing with crowds and all types of people.

Here's another jewel form your candidate yesterday.....

"The U.S. never has to default on debt "because you print the money,"

Wow.....    $20T in debt?....   $30T?........    $100T?
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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #178 on: May 10, 2016, 08:12:46 pm »
Cruz comes across as cold, hard detached and impersonal.

I disagree.


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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #179 on: May 10, 2016, 08:14:48 pm »
The great unknown is still the potential legal issues Hillary might face.  Past that if nothing changes, Hillary has Democrat Party that will come together.  Trump definitely won't have that; Cruz probably would.  Trump may over time have an easier time bringing in independents and possibly some Democrats.  Cruz likely would not.  But it's a long time until November.

I'm not so sure she is going to get the young airhead "kneejerk dim vote". From what I have seen,those people hate her as much as we do. Which is why they are backing the ACTUAL socialist,Bernie. I doubt many of them will be voting for her.

She has the Whymen? and the black and brown votes locked up,as well as the geezer Dim white votes,though.

I guess it would all depend on how many of the young Dims will vote for the alleged Republican candidate as a protest vote,and how many traditional Republican voters refuse to vote for the lunatic with the orange hair and skin.
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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #180 on: May 10, 2016, 08:31:01 pm »
Trump is a jock.

Well, no... But you're in the right area.

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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #181 on: May 10, 2016, 08:36:15 pm »
 
Well, no... But you're in the right area.

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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #182 on: May 10, 2016, 08:42:44 pm »
I just don't believe Cruz is capable of changing. That's why I believe he would make a great jurist.

It might be what he wants, but if he decides to run again, he will definitely have to make some changes, which would turn off the SoCon voters. 
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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #183 on: May 10, 2016, 08:47:38 pm »
Cruz comes across as cold, hard detached and impersonal. He can't help it. Many people who have spent the majority of their lives with their heads in books aren't particularly sociable.

100% wrong.

I helped Cruz with his senatorial campaign in 2012, and when he spoke to a group of us, he came across as a kind genuine, principled conservative.  What he did do, is say that he may make enemies in DC by challenging the status quo, and establishment capitulating mindset that has turned its back on the tea party movement that put them in majority.  His bold actions pissed off our feckless leaders (Boner and Turtleman), to the point he called McConnell the liar that he is.   

Fast forward to the orange charlatan who is the master deceptive perceptive meme generator, and now you have a chunk of the population who have a false take of what Sen. Cruz is really all about.    You can keep flip flop, as many of us principled conservatives view a tRump POTUS as Hitlerly Lite.  I will never vote for the SOB.
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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #184 on: May 10, 2016, 08:54:14 pm »
I disagree.


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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #185 on: May 10, 2016, 09:01:08 pm »
100% wrong.

I helped Cruz with his senatorial campaign in 2012, and when he spoke to a group of us, he came across as a kind genuine, principled conservative.  What he did do, is say that he may make enemies in DC by challenging the status quo, and establishment capitulating mindset that has turned its back on the tea party movement that put them in majority.  His bold actions pissed off our feckless leaders (Boner and Turtleman), to the point he called McConnell the liar that he is.   

Fast forward to the orange charlatan who is the master deceptive perceptive meme generator, and now you have a chunk of the population who have a false take of what Sen. Cruz is really all about.    You can keep flip flop, as many of us principled conservatives view a tRump POTUS as Hitlerly Lite.  I will never vote for the SOB.

 :beer:  You are fortunate to have met Cruz in person.  I greatly admire the man and will continue to support him in the direction he decides on next.  His education and background are quite amazing and I couldn't put his book, "A Time for Truth" down (I read it in two sittings).  I listened to him briefly this morning on Beck and he actually apologized for letting his supporters down because he didn't accomplish what he had set out to do.  I see that he gave it his all.  He went up against all odds, a multi-billionaire and the Washington cartel.  Ted has no reason to apologize.  I see that a whole lot of people owe Ted and apology, first and foremost Trump for stomping on a true conservative and secondly Kasich for staying in to make a win more difficult.  Both men are despicable.

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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #186 on: May 10, 2016, 09:04:07 pm »
100% wrong.

I helped Cruz with his senatorial campaign in 2012, and when he spoke to a group of us, he came across as a kind genuine, principled conservative.  What he did do, is say that he may make enemies in DC by challenging the status quo, and establishment capitulating mindset that has turned its back on the tea party movement that put them in majority.  His bold actions pissed off our feckless leaders (Boner and Turtleman), to the point he called McConnell the liar that he is.   

Fast forward to the orange charlatan who is the master deceptive perceptive meme generator, and now you have a chunk of the population who have a false take of what Sen. Cruz is really all about.    You can keep flip flop, as many of us principled conservatives view a tRump POTUS as Hitlerly Lite.  I will never vote for the SOB.

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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #187 on: May 10, 2016, 09:11:44 pm »
100% wrong.

I helped Cruz with his senatorial campaign in 2012, and when he spoke to a group of us, he came across as a kind genuine, principled conservative.  What he did do, is say that he may make enemies in DC by challenging the status quo, and establishment capitulating mindset that has turned its back on the tea party movement that put them in majority.  His bold actions pissed off our feckless leaders (Boner and Turtleman), to the point he called McConnell the liar that he is.   

Fast forward to the orange charlatan who is the master deceptive perceptive meme generator, and now you have a chunk of the population who have a false take of what Sen. Cruz is really all about.    You can keep flip flop, as many of us principled conservatives view a tRump POTUS as Hitlerly Lite.  I will never vote for the SOB.

If indeed I were 100% wrong Cruz would now be the GOP nominee. Evidently there are many more people that agree with my observations than they do with yours. You can insult me and the Trump supporters, but it only makes you out to be a butthurt sore loser.

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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #188 on: May 11, 2016, 01:26:28 pm »
" but it only makes you out to be a butthurt sore loser."
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No, it just shows how damn gullible you are.
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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #189 on: May 11, 2016, 01:50:27 pm »
A-Lert and Catfish...knock it off now. 

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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #190 on: May 11, 2016, 03:17:01 pm »
Here's another jewel form your candidate yesterday.....

"The U.S. never has to default on debt "because you print the money,"

Wow.....    $20T in debt?....   $30T?........    $100T?

Inflation aside, that is technically true.
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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #191 on: May 11, 2016, 03:37:06 pm »
Inflation aside, that is technically true.

And fire aside, the house is technically not burning to the ground.

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« Reply #192 on: May 11, 2016, 03:42:05 pm »
Sometimes the terms of loans specified specied currency because nations are aware you intend to print your way out of debt. This is why nations have defaulted on debt from time to time, despite printing currency.

If this every happens to the US you will know we are deep, deep trouble.

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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #193 on: May 11, 2016, 04:18:11 pm »
Sometimes the terms of loans specified specied currency because nations are aware you intend to print your way out of debt. This is why nations have defaulted on debt from time to time, despite printing currency.

If this every happens to the US you will know we are deep, deep trouble.

It has already happened.  At the current issue rate, the Treasury is unable to find a sufficient number of investors, so the Fed has been purchasing them instead.  This means that if interest rates go up to their natural level, the entire banking system and therefore the US government is on the hook for all that money. 

http://useconomy.about.com/od/monetarypolicy/f/Who-Owns-US-National-Debt.htm

Right now the Fed is playing a big game of chicken with the rest of the world.  The Fed regulators well know that no one would be harmed more by an increase in interest rates than they would because they would have to discount the value of $2.5 trillion and counting.

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Re: Trump: I’m open to Cruz as VP
« Reply #194 on: May 12, 2016, 12:51:40 am »
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And fire aside, the house is technically not burning to the ground.
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