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What is it about hyperbole and figures of speech  that you don't understand?

It wasn't hyperbole.  He was speaking - almost amazed - of the level of slavish adoration he observed.
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The reality is that a lot of his supporters (again, not all) have come to identify with him.  They love it when he engages in "plain speaking" (i.e., insults),

Trump's "plain speaking" goes well beyond "insults".  Trump does the best damn job explaining economics, the relationships between corporate inversion, NAFTA, TPP, and job creation.

Trump's "plain speaking" explains not only that NAFTA is obsolete, but why and how we can and should change it. 

Trump's "plain speaking" resonates because a nation without secure borders will not be a nation for long.

Trump's "plain speaking" explains why we need to replace Obamacare,  CommonCore and the best replacements for both.

Trump's "plain speaking" has put political correctness on the chopping block--and those who hear him understand why.

Trump's "plain speaking" does not differentiate between young and old, rich and poor, white, black, red or green.  Trump's "plain speaking" invites all to join in making America Great Again and be its beneficiary.

I post links to live streams of Donald Trump's almost daily rallies.  I invite you to click on one of those links and listen to him.  Just sit back and listen to him....you don't even have to tell anyone you're doing it.  You'll hear political red meat, for sure.  But you'll also hear clear answers to what is destroying this nation from the inside out.

Listening to him will also help you understand why Trump's "plain speaking" is just one of the gifts his competition wishes they were blessed with.






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Trump's "plain speaking" goes well beyond "insults".  Trump does the best damn job explaining economics, the relationships between corporate inversion, NAFTA, TPP, and job creation.

Trump's "plain speaking" explains not only that NAFTA is obsolete, but why and how we can and should change it. 

Trump's "plain speaking" resonates because a nation without secure borders will not be a nation for long.

Trump's "plain speaking" explains why we need to replace Obamacare,  CommonCore and the best replacements for both.

Trump's "plain speaking" has put political correctness on the chopping block--and those who hear him understand why.

Trump's "plain speaking" does not differentiate between young and old, rich and poor, white, black, red or green.  Trump's "plain speaking" invites all to join in making America Great Again and be its beneficiary.

I post links to live streams of Donald Trump's nearly daily rallies.  I invite you to click on one of those links and listen to him.  Just sit back and listen to him....you don't even have to tell anyone you're doing it.

Listening to him will help you understand why Trump's "plain speaking" is just one of the gifts his competition wish they were blessed with.

Plain speaking = empty rhetoric.

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Plain speaking = empty rhetoric.

I invite you to listen to his rallies, too.  Your answer is flip and diminishes the intelligence of this forum.

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Plain speaking = empty rhetoric.

Great refutation, as usual.

We Trump'rs sure is jealous of the edumacation and witty analysis of you NeverTrumps. Aw shucks!
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He was not a Christian. Lots of Catholics get baptized, confirmed and then never do anything else.   So I  DID refute your SWAG from an actual source.  A source that proves Hitler, in his influential time as leader, was anti-Christianity.

  All we have from you are your assertions.

You are so dishonest...had to sneak in that little modifier to make what you said right. The truth is, I didn't say he was Christian during his "influential time as leader", I just said he WAS Christian. And he was...went to church, got confirmed, practice all the niceties of Catholicism in his youth (that meets the definition of Christian by any practical measure). I also did not say he was a "good" Christian...but yes, he WAS a Christian, and each bullet point I laid out you have maneuvered around but avoided refuting. Instead, you chose to refute the one thing I did NOT claim, which is that he was a practicing Christian in his later years.
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I invite you to listen to his rallies, too.  Your answer is flip and diminishes the intelligence of this forum.

Why should anybody listen to Trump?  He says the same stuff, mostly about himself and how smart and brilliant he is.  He rarely talks policy and, when he does, it's an inch deep.  He just can't discuss important issues in any depth.

He is the single most ignorant candidate from either party in my lifetime.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Great refutation, as usual.

We Trump'rs sure is jealous of the edumacation and witty analysis of you NeverTrumps. Aw shucks!

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Great refutation, as usual.

We Trump'rs sure is jealous of the edumacation and witty analysis of you NeverTrumps. Aw shucks!

Trump cannot put two coherent sentences together.

It was obvious that his big "foreign policy" presentation today was written by others.  It was actually literate.

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You are so dishonest...had to sneak in that little modifier to make what you said right. The truth is, I didn't say he was Christian during his "influential time as leader", I just said he WAS Christian. And he was...went to church, got confirmed, practice all the niceties of Catholicism in his youth (that meets the definition of Christian by any practical measure). I also did not say he was a "good" Christian...but yes, he WAS a Christian, and each bullet point I laid out you have maneuvered around but avoided refuting. Instead, you chose to refute the one thing I did NOT claim, which is that he was a practicing Christian in his later years.

How silly. No "youth" is Christian, in any sense of the word.  I expect next you'll be claiming that Hitler was Christian as an infant.

You can never admit you're wrong about anything, can you?  Kinda like your boy.
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What do you folks think of this Ted Cruz quote?

I don't find you very entertaining.  You know that Hitler said that.  Hitler said many things to get the population to follow him.  Kind of like Trump saying I am a Christian and waving his Bible around.  Then saying he has never needed forgiveness.  I think Cruz could sue you for falsely claiming Hitlers words were his.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Trump cannot put two coherent sentences together.

How would you know?

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The Trump get-together in Indianapolis looks like a rousing success:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLvGnro4Cgw

So that's where you get your political ideas! :silly:

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I don't find you very entertaining.  You know that Hitler said that.  Hitler said many things to get the population to follow him.  Kind of like Trump saying I am a Christian and waving his Bible around.  Then saying he has never needed forgiveness.  I think Cruz could sue you for falsely claiming Hitlers words were his.

Oh, its highly entertaining. If Anti-Trumps are going to compare Trump to Pol Pot, than I've every right to show exactly how similar Hitler's words are to something Cruz would say...scary, the similarity.

But don't miss the real point here. I think such comparisons are absurd....but hey, if you Anti's are gonna be dishing out these silly comparisons you better be ready to receive them as well.
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OK. Which part of what I said was incorrect.
1) The part where I said he was baptized in the Catholic Church.
2) The part where I said he was confirmed in the Catholic Church.
3) Hitler repeatedly called for "positive" Christianity in numerous speeches.

I'll await your refutation...or is this just another of your "make it up" and hope its right moments.

The part where you have no clue as to what being a Christian means.

Hitler was never a Christian.  His parents may have been Catholic when they had him baptized, but he NEVER was a Christian.

That is a leftist lie intended to besmirch Christianity.

But I highly suspect you know that and only said it to cause trouble.

Now you may feel free to "make up" anything you want about me.  People here have your number......
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Oh, its highly entertaining. If Anti-Trumps are going to compare Trump to Pol Pot, than I've every right to show exactly how similar Hitler's words are to something Cruz would say...scary, the similarity.

But don't miss the real point here. I think such comparisons are absurd....but hey, if you Anti's are gonna be dishing out these silly comparisons you better be ready to receive them as well.

No, Cruz has never said anything like that.  You outright said it was a Cruz quote.  That is bearing false witness.  Character assassination.  Nobody has ever done that to Trump.  His words are rude enough, disgusting enough.  His words are like those of narcissistic dictators.  But nobody has posted someone else quote and put Trumps name to it.  I don't believe you are allowed to do that.

AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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No, Cruz has never said anything like that.  You outright said it was a Cruz quote.  That is bearing false witness.  Character assassination.  Nobody has ever done that to Trump.  His words are rude enough, disgusting enough.  His words are like those of narcissistic dictators.  But nobody has posted someone else quote and put Trumps name to it.  I don't believe you are allowed to do that.

At the very least it's unethical.  But unethical is what Trump is all about, so why not his groupies??
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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At the very least it's unethical.  But unethical is what Trump is all about, so why not his groupies??

I saved it to my computer
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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I saved it to my computer

I'll be interested in finding out if there's anything illegal about what he did.

Remember that this is the same guy who last night was mocking Christian Conservatives and mocking me for believing that our leaders need to have integrity.

It gives you some insight into why he would do something unethical........
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.

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I'll be interested in finding out if there's anything illegal about what he did.

Remember that this is the same guy who last night was mocking Christian Conservatives and mocking me for believing that our leaders need to have integrity.

It gives you some insight into why he would do something unethical........

I think that could be pretty serious actually.  Especially on a public forum where you are misrepresenting someone, in this case a candidate for POTUS. 



Simple Definition of character assassination
 
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:  the act of saying false things about a person usually in order to make the public stop liking or trusting that person

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What he is attempting to do is to sway peoples opinion that Ted Cruz is a religious fanatic.  This is a public forum.  Anyone could take that as truth copy it and start posting it all over the net.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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I think that could be pretty serious actually.  Especially on a public forum where you are misrepresenting someone, in this case a candidate for POTUS. 



Simple Definition of character assassination
 
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Well, quoting Hitler and attributing it to Cruz is definitely character assassination.......

It's also disgustingly dishonest.

And stupid.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

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The part where you have no clue as to what being a Christian means.

Hitler was never a Christian.  His parents may have been Catholic when they had him baptized, but he NEVER was a Christian.

That is a leftist lie intended to besmirch Christianity.

But I highly suspect you know that and only said it to cause trouble.

Now you may feel free to "make up" anything you want about me.  People here have your number......

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I think that could be pretty serious actually.  Especially on a public forum where you are misrepresenting someone, in this case a candidate for POTUS. 



Simple Definition of character assassination
 
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:  the act of saying false things about a person usually in order to make the public stop liking or trusting that person

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What he is attempting to do is to sway peoples opinion that Ted Cruz is a religious fanatic.  This is a public forum.  Anyone could take that as truth copy it and start posting it all over the net.

Good thing the anti-Trumps haven't done anything similar! :silly:

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What do you folks think of this Ted Cruz quote?

I think you are acting like a DU troll trying to spread a Hitler quote as a Cruz quote. http://rense.com/general79/ghe.htm

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Good thing the anti-Trumps haven't done anything similar! :silly:

No, I have never seen it.  If you can find anywhere that anybody has taken a quote from someone else and put Trumps name to it show me.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.