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IF DONALD TRUMP is our nominee, will you vote for him in the General?

YES! HE WAS CHOSEN AT THE CONVENTION
61 (36.1%)
NO! I WILL STAY HOME OR VOTE DOWN TICKET
68 (40.2%)
I WILL WRITE IN TED CRUZ!
37 (21.9%)
I WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY!
3 (1.8%)

Total Members Voted: 158

Voting closed: May 07, 2016, 04:02:57 am

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Re: (POLL #2) VOTE! IF TRUMP IS THE NOMINEE WILL YOU VOTE FOR HIM?
« Reply #125 on: April 27, 2016, 09:32:30 pm »
Since when would a guy from Texas do well in the Northeast, the backyard of a guy with NY values.

So where exactly besides Texas has the Canadian done well?

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« Reply #126 on: April 27, 2016, 09:49:22 pm »
The country can't survive another Clinton in the White House.

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« Reply #127 on: April 27, 2016, 10:09:34 pm »
Perhaps not, although if we hold at least one House of Congress, we can minimize the damage except on the Court.

But I'm also not sure we can survive 4 years of Trump.  I see him as basically a Rockefeller Republican with a foul mouth.  Not only do I think he's likely to start a trade war and crash the economy,, but he'll do it under the mantle of the Republican Party, and we will get the blame.  And since he's basically running against the GOP Congress as well, he makes it more likely that we'll lose that too.

I will never vote for Hillary, but if Trump remains who he has shown himself to be during this campaign, I won't vote for him either.

If Hillary wins, we not only lose the SCOTUS for 20 to 40 years, we'll even more importantly lose the 2nd Amendment. That my friend would be the beginning of the end.

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« Reply #128 on: April 27, 2016, 10:10:45 pm »
Perhaps not, although if we hold at least one House of Congress, we can minimize the damage except on the Court.

But I'm also not sure we can survive 4 years of Trump.  I see him as basically a Rockefeller Republican with a foul mouth.  Not only do I think he's likely to start a trade war and crash the economy,, but he'll do it under the mantle of the Republican Party, and we will get the blame.  And since he's basically running against the GOP Congress as well, he makes it more likely that we'll lose that too.

I will never vote for Hillary, but if Trump remains who he has shown himself to be during this campaign, I won't vote for him either.

Trump is no Rockefeller Republican.  He's a Democrat, plain and simple.

But the foul mouth is certainly accurate........ 
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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« Reply #129 on: April 27, 2016, 11:04:40 pm »
If the terrorist gives you a gun and you don't shoot the SOB, you're just plain stupid.

You can't avoid the hypothetical that way.  Answer the question, it's just that simple. 

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« Reply #130 on: April 27, 2016, 11:07:13 pm »
Funny how most of the votes here will not vote for Trump, period, whereas the number on the other poll who wont vote for Cruz, period, is quite small (in absolute terms).

Maybe the STrumpets should think about that, long and hard, and what it says about the essential unelectability of Trump. 

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« Reply #131 on: April 27, 2016, 11:09:13 pm »
Funny how most of the votes here will not vote for Trump, period, whereas the number on the other poll who wont vote for Cruz, period, is quite small (in absolute terms).

Maybe the STrumpets should think about that, long and hard, and what it says about the essential unelectability of Trump.

They simply write it off as "anti-Trumps are a cult" and go on their merry (oblivious to the truth) way........
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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« Reply #132 on: April 27, 2016, 11:23:36 pm »
You can't avoid the hypothetical that way.  Answer the question, it's just that simple.

I answered the question. I would  do what is possible and right, not what is hypothetical.

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« Reply #133 on: April 28, 2016, 02:37:52 am »
I could have voted for most of the original candidates enthusiastically, and some with my nose held.  Trump is the exception.  He is unfit to serve and has demonstrated this many times. 

If Gary Johnson makes the ballot in NC I will fill the oval beside his name.  Otherwise, it's gonna have to be a write-in or undervote. 

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« Reply #134 on: April 28, 2016, 02:55:14 am »
I could have voted for most of the original candidates enthusiastically, and some with my nose held.  Trump is the exception.  He is unfit to serve and has demonstrated this many times. 

If Gary Johnson makes the ballot in NC I will fill the oval beside his name.  Otherwise, it's gonna have to be a write-in or undervote.

For many, Trump is a bridge too far.

We have bent multiple times in the choice we have been given, but now we have to decide if we actually want to break.

I'm not sure I can......
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

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Re: (POLL #2) VOTE! IF TRUMP IS THE NOMINEE WILL YOU VOTE FOR HIM?
« Reply #135 on: April 28, 2016, 05:16:14 am »
I will write in Ted Cruz!!!

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« Reply #136 on: April 28, 2016, 11:41:33 am »
I answered the question. I would  do what is possible and right, not what is hypothetical.

No you did not.  But since you won't we'll add another limit for the sophomoric amongst us.  He's standing behind a phalanx of guards wearing full body armor and the gun you have is a .22, just enough to penetrate the geezers skull, but not enough to do more than really piss off any of the terrorists.

You have no clue what the right thing is.  But then, I don't expect much from a STrumpet. 

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« Reply #137 on: April 28, 2016, 11:43:23 am »
I could have voted for most of the original candidates enthusiastically, and some with my nose held.  Trump is the exception.  He is unfit to serve and has demonstrated this many times. 

If Gary Johnson makes the ballot in NC I will fill the oval beside his name.  Otherwise, it's gonna have to be a write-in or undervote. 

Exactly. Why the STrumpets chose to throw over people like Walker for a giant annoying orange martinet is beyond me, other than due to an emotional, anti-intellectual need to have an authoritarian daddy-figure to validate their fear and hatred. 

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« Reply #138 on: April 28, 2016, 11:45:03 am »
For many, Trump is a bridge too far.

We have bent multiple times in the choice we have been given, but now we have to decide if we actually want to break.

I'm not sure I can......

I know now that I can't.  I thought I could initially, but the stench just got too strong and I have no doubt that his policies, such as Supreme Court nominations, will probably be about as liberal as Clintons would be.  Why vote for Clinton-lite?

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« Reply #139 on: April 28, 2016, 12:20:06 pm »
If Trump is the nominee, I'll most definitely vote down ticket. I don't know yet whether I'll write-in or 3rd party for president.

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« Reply #140 on: April 28, 2016, 12:31:27 pm »
If Trump is the nominee, I'll most definitely vote down ticket. I don't know yet whether I'll write-in or 3rd party for president.

Nick... Your avatar is reminiscent of a long-time forum member who moved on for her own reasons a couple years back. She used that very avatar.  Welcome!
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« Reply #141 on: April 28, 2016, 12:37:58 pm »
Nick... Your avatar is reminiscent of a long-time forum member who moved on for her own reasons a couple years back. She used that very avatar.  Welcome!

LOL!  Exactly....I jumped in my chair for a moment...thinking Rapunzel had returned.

...which makes me wonder/HOPE that perhaps she and maybe even Howlin might find their way back here.

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« Reply #142 on: April 28, 2016, 01:00:20 pm »
LOL!  Exactly....I jumped in my chair for a moment...thinking Rapunzel had returned.

...which makes me wonder/HOPE that perhaps she and maybe even Howlin might find their way back here.

And one of my all-time, all-time favorites (after you DC, of course)...

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« Reply #143 on: April 28, 2016, 01:23:10 pm »
And one of my all-time, all-time favorites (after you DC, of course)...

Peach

LOL!   OMG....yes!     

Hope they're both in good health and ready to jump back in our pool!
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« Reply #144 on: April 28, 2016, 04:47:27 pm »
The closest option for me was the "stay home or vote down ticket" option. 
If Trump is the nominee, I will vote Libertarian in the presidential race and then vote straight GOP in all the down-ticket races.

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« Reply #145 on: April 28, 2016, 05:54:43 pm »
If Hillary wins, we not only lose the SCOTUS for 20 to 40 years, we'll even more importantly lose the 2nd Amendment. That my friend would be the beginning of the end.

Neither Trump nor Hillary are seeking this nations best interest......the only difference is Trump leads the corporate investor activists to fill their pockets.... and Hillary's the current sitting politicians. ....... In the end this is the game.....it's not for leader of this country....it's which of the two entities and their buddies who takes over the revenue flows of this nation to accomadate their monetary interests and investments both in this country and abroad.....and this by increasing tax's....controlling companies via leveraging in threatening ways and means.......

There is no difference in their agendas.....nor their orchestrated targets to continue to generate or take revenues out of the American tax payers pockets...Ones A Political Thug organization..the Other the Mob organization....either way it's still a take over of this country and it's resources to fund their investments and ventures........

So this is really now about two Mob mentalities running against each other to take over......with Cruz trying to stop it.


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« Reply #146 on: April 28, 2016, 06:28:52 pm »
No you did not.  But since you won't we'll add another limit for the sophomoric amongst us.  He's standing behind a phalanx of guards wearing full body armor and the gun you have is a .22, just enough to penetrate the geezers skull, but not enough to do more than really piss off any of the terrorists.

You have no clue what the right thing is.  But then, I don't expect much from a STrumpet.

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« Reply #147 on: April 28, 2016, 09:13:23 pm »
They simply write it off as "anti-Trumps are a cult" and go on their merry (oblivious to the truth) way........

I don't think of you as a cult member at all but, we need to read the writing on the wall.... together.

Hoping we can 'survive' for another 4 to 8 years under Hillary is a scary thought.

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« Reply #148 on: April 28, 2016, 09:21:24 pm »
I don't think of you as a cult member at all but, we need to read the writing on the wall.... together.

Hoping we can 'survive' for another 4 to 8 years under Hillary is a scary thought.

If there is only one person on this board who could not possibly join a cult, it would be me.  I don't do groupthink.  In fact, I enjoy going against the grain, and thinking for myself.  I go against the flow......

That said, I'm not sure that 4-8 years under Trump would be in any way better than those same years under Hillary.

They both share the same political ideology, they're both arrogant elitists, they're both control freaks, and they're both mean.

The results under either will be the end of the Republic.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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« Reply #149 on: April 28, 2016, 09:39:12 pm »
If there is only one person on this board who could not possibly join a cult, it would be me.  I don't do groupthink.  In fact, I enjoy going against the grain, and thinking for myself.  I go against the flow......

That said, I'm not sure that 4-8 years under Trump would be in any way better than those same years under Hillary.

They both share the same political ideology, they're both arrogant elitists, they're both control freaks, and they're both mean.

The results under either will be the end of the Republic.

The way I see it is Trump has no track record to look at whereas Hilary was a long one. We are at a stage in the politics where both major parties are about the same. Not the voters, the parties.

In order to break this spell they have over the electorate, we must find someone to who can work some magic out side the box. Trump might not be that person but, he's not beholden to either party or the lobbyists.

I didn't vote for Trump in the TX primary but, it's fairly clear that Cruz isn't going to be the nominee. Since both of these candidates claim to be anti-establishment and have garnered most of the votes, I'm pretty confident most of them want what I was describing...a revolution of sorts in the political process.

I feel that if we lose this opportunity, it won't be available later. This current generation mostly believes socialism is the way forward. We need to change their minds NOW!