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All his supporters care about on this issue is the wall.  As long as there is a wall, everything is solved.  But it's got to be a big wall, a YUGE wall... maybe even a Great Wall.

There will not be a wall.
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By tomorrow night this video might be called a fake full of lies, planted on NBC by the Ted Cruz campaign

It already is on TOS.

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How many died in the wool, flaming liberals do you know with a concealed carry permit who want to make CCP's  reciprocal for all 50 states, just like drivers licenses?

What kool-aid have you been drinking??  He wants to ban assault weapons AND wants a longer waiting period to purchase a gun. He is now starting to lean LEFT on EVERY issue that he made claim to.  Please enlighten me as to why you don't think Trump is a liberal.  Do you honestly believe that he will vote along conservative lines? 

“Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions. I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within seventy-two hours if a potential gun owner has a record.”
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Let’s get to be a little establishment,” Trump told the crowd at the South Point resort and casino. “We’ve got to get things done folks, OK? Believe me, don’t worry. We’re going to make such great deals.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/22/trump-lets-get-to-be-a-little-establishment-weve-got-to-get-things-done-folks-ok/

Trump himself made those comments.  How in the hell can anyone see him even remotely as conservative??  How can anyone with any logical thinking not see that he is now going to continue to veer to the left and hand the White House to Hillary???

People (low information voters included) didn't do their homework and elected Barrack Hussein Obama ... let's hope that the Trumpsters wake up!! 

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Trump is a liberal people don't change their fundamental views in their 60's.

Trump is a liberal telling populist/conservatives what he thinks they want to hear, to pander to them. The
amount of projection onto to Trump of peoples hopes and aspirations by his supporters is reminiscent of
the Obama campaign circa 2008.

 
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LOL!   

You guyz are killing me!    Talk about desperation...... :whistle:
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LOL!   

You guyz are killing me!    Talk about desperation...... :whistle:

Glad you weighed in on this one (I see you as one of the more logical Trump supporters in here).  With all the Trump has recently stated, why don't you see him as a liberal??
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Trump is a liberal people don't change their fundamental views in their 60's.

Trump is a liberal telling populist/conservatives what he thinks they want to hear, to pander to them. The
amount of projection onto to Trump of peoples hopes and aspirations by his supporters is reminiscent of
the Obama campaign circa 2008.

Welcome aboard.  More and more people are starting to realize that they have been 'Trumped' and yes ... Obama duped his supporters in much the same way.
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There will not be a wall.

Agreed. IMHO, Trump if elected president has absolutely no intention of building that wall.  There is too much money to be made without it and I will bet you that he will not only not build the wall but grant amnesty AND he will build the NAFTA superhighway connecting Mexico, the U.S. and Canada ... they hell with sovereignty ... there's money to be made!  People and conservatives in Congress (of what's left) will be in an uproar ... the issue will go all the way to the SCOTUS ... but Donald as president will have placed the most liberal justices he could find ... he needs them to make money.
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Glad you weighed in on this one (I see you as one of the more logical Trump supporters in here).  With all the Trump has recently stated, why don't you see him as a liberal??

Thanks, LB!

Was merely reacting to the thread replies as a whole.

I've said many times, that I don't care that Donald Trump is trying to appeal to liberals.   They vote too!

Hillary Clinton should be under arrest...not running for POTUS.  And many Bernie supporters share that POV.

To me, this election isn't about Democrat versus Republican.

It's Capitalism vs. European Socialsm.   It's the threat to the First Amendment (Fairness Doctrine), the Second Amendment (gun registration/taxation/confiscation) and the ideological makeup of the Supreme Court.

We all know what Hillary Clinton would do.   We aren't sure what Trump will do.

It's a no-brainer.

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There will not be a wall.

There might be a chain-link fence, although not for all of it. lol

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Trump is a liberal people don't change their fundamental views in their 60's.

Trump is a liberal telling populist/conservatives what he thinks they want to hear, to pander to them. The
amount of projection onto to Trump of peoples hopes and aspirations by his supporters is reminiscent of
the Obama campaign circa 2008.

He's not even good at parroting what he thinks is conservatism.

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Agreed. IMHO, Trump if elected president has absolutely no intention of building that wall.  There is too much money to be made without it and I will bet you that he will not only not build the wall but grant amnesty AND he will build the NAFTA superhighway connecting Mexico, the U.S. and Canada ... they hell with sovereignty ... there's money to be made!  People and conservatives in Congress (of what's left) will be in an uproar ... the issue will go all the way to the SCOTUS ... but Donald as president will have placed the most liberal justices he could find ... he needs them to make money.

Not to mention, the areas that currently don't have a wall are for a reason- private property, geographical issues (such as the border going down the middle of a river), or treaties. I suspect he will have several press conferences in front of the existing wall and act like he did it.

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Thanks, LB!

Was merely reacting to the thread replies as a whole.

I've said many times, that I don't care that Donald Trump is trying to appeal to liberals.   They vote too!

Hillary Clinton should be under arrest...not running for POTUS.  And many Bernie supporters share that POV.

To me, this election isn't about Democrat versus Republican.

It's Capitalism vs. European Socialsm.   It's the threat to the First Amendment (Fairness Doctrine), the Second Amendment (gun registration/taxation/confiscation) and the ideological makeup of the Supreme Court.

We all know what Hillary Clinton would do.   We aren't sure what Trump will do.

It's a no-brainer.

Yes.  I'll give you that one.  We do know what Clinton would do.  We aren't sure about Trump.  That's a given.  But, what I'm not understanding ... is why not support someone who we know will support the Constitution and place conservative justices??  (Sorry, I'm missing it, I guess).
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Thanks, LB!

Was merely reacting to the thread replies as a whole.

I've said many times, that I don't care that Donald Trump is trying to appeal to liberals.   They vote too!

Hillary Clinton should be under arrest...not running for POTUS.  And many Bernie supporters share that POV.

To me, this election isn't about Democrat versus Republican.

It's Capitalism vs. European Socialsm.  It's the threat to the First Amendment (Fairness Doctrine), the Second Amendment (gun registration/taxation/confiscation) and the ideological makeup of the Supreme Court.

We all know what Hillary Clinton would do.   We aren't sure what Trump will do.

It's a no-brainer.

We know that Trump will turn left, which means conservatives have nowhere to go.

As to the highlighted issues above, Trump has already said the 1st amendment has to be altered so he can sue anybody who speaks out against him; 2nd amendment, Trump supports an assault weapons ban, and on SC justices, nobody has any idea who he would choose as he has no ideological bearings whatsoever.

Over and above his left-leaning policies, however, is the fact that Trump is ignorant of basic tenets of government, is a rude, insulting MOFO,  and has shown a willingness to destroy anyone who opposes him. He's too authoritarian for me and always will be.

Therefore, even if I'm the ONLY human being in America who is #NEVERTRUMP in November, I will always be NEVERTRUMP. 

And, if I am, you won't need me anyway.  You can lose to Hillary all by yourselves.
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How many died in the wool, flaming liberals do you know with a concealed carry permit who want to make CCP's  reciprocal for all 50 states, just like drivers licenses?

And when he farts rainbows shoot out his Arse.   You really really believe he means and will stand by every promise he makes, don't you?   He already has proven he says what his audience wants to hear, and then flip-flops to a total different audience, like on a CNN interview. What that describes best is a "flaming" say-anything to get elected politician.
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Not to mention, the areas that currently don't have a wall are for a reason- private property, geographical issues (such as the border going down the middle of a river), or treaties. I suspect he will have several press conferences in front of the existing wall and act like he did it.

All of this "Trump as Pres" prognostication is wildly premature. 

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Yes.  I'll give you that one.  We do know what Clinton would do.  We aren't sure about Trump.  That's a given.  But, what I'm not understanding ... is why not support someone who we know will support the Constitution and place conservative justices??  (Sorry, I'm missing it, I guess).

The American voter has been "dumbed down" to the point that "Conservatives" are considered and portrayed as domestic enemies.

Donald Trump is the only candidate who can build a bridge to those voters.  He's a globally known entity.  Not a politician.

Oh....and he LOVES our country compared to Clinton and Sanders.   Plus, the "Establishment" hates him.

...the only motivation I need come November.   :laugh:
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The American voter has been "dumbed down" to the point that "Conservatives" are considered and portrayed as domestic enemies.

Donald Trump is the only candidate who can build a bridge to those voters.  He's a globally known entity.  Not a politician.

Oh....and he LOVES our country compared to Clinton and Sanders.   Plus, the "Establishment" hates him.

...the only motivation I need come November.   :laugh:

Thanks for your insight and input, though I'm not so sure that the establishment does hate him; when Reid states that he could work with Trump it leaves me skeptical.  I think that there have been a lot of DEMS who have voted for Trump in the open primaries and I don't think he's garnered enough voters to beat Hillary...I think we have a better chance with Cruz against Hillary.  As for the establishment hating someone, I think Cruz gets the gold medal on that one.  Just my two cents. Peace.
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The American voter has been "dumbed down" to the point that "Conservatives" are considered and portrayed as domestic enemies.

Donald Trump is the only candidate who can build a bridge to those voters.  He's a globally known entity.  Not a politician.

Oh....and he LOVES our country compared to Clinton and Sanders.   Plus, the "Establishment" hates him.

...the only motivation I need come November.   :laugh:

DC, your answer points out the problems I have with DT:  everything you base your decision on is subjective, is possible to prove only after the fact, and is contradicted by DT's own statements and/or actions in the past.

I'm not willing to risk our future in this most important of elections in an vote motivated by blind faith. 

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DC, your answer points out the problems I have with DT:  everything you base your decision on is subjective, is possible to prove only after the fact, and is contradicted by DT's own statements and/or actions in the past.

I'm not willing to risk our future in this most important of elections in an vote motivated by blind faith.

Totally understand your thinking, Sanguine.

I have almost 25 years....going back to 1992...of data in which to analyze exactly what Hillary Clinton would do.

Universal, single payer health-care....gun confiscations...leftist activist Supreme Court justices...adoption of taxes to kill capitalism through fraudulent man-made climate change.....it goes on and on.

Voting for Donald Trump may be tantamount to buying a lottery ticket, but a President Hillary Clinton is guaranteeing a sh*tty USA for at least a generation.   

Or two. 
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What kool-aid have you been drinking??  He wants to ban assault weapons AND wants a longer waiting period to purchase a gun. He is now starting to lean LEFT on EVERY issue that he made claim to.  Please enlighten me as to why you don't think Trump is a liberal.  Do you honestly believe that he will vote along conservative lines? 

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Let’s get to be a little establishment,” Trump told the crowd at the South Point resort and casino. “We’ve got to get things done folks, OK? Believe me, don’t worry. We’re going to make such great deals.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/22/trump-lets-get-to-be-a-little-establishment-weve-got-to-get-things-done-folks-ok/

Trump himself made those comments.  How in the hell can anyone see him even remotely as conservative??  How can anyone with any logical thinking not see that he is now going to continue to veer to the left and hand the White House to Hillary???

People (low information voters included) didn't do their homework and elected Barrack Hussein Obama ... let's hope that the Trumpsters wake up!! 

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Obviously you don't read the material at the links you post.

https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates/candidates/donald-trump#article-13

He released a policy paper on the Second Amendment which promises major reforms that gun rights activists have long anted. Examples include support for national reciprocity for concealed carry permits, the end of weapons and magazine bans, and curtailing of the expansion of a failing background check system. - See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates/candidates/donald-trump#article-13

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/22/trump-lets-get-to-be-a-little-establishment-weve-got-to-get-things-done-folks-ok/

Even Allahpundit, a Cruz acolyte, is finally facing the reality that Cruz isn't going to win. Hillary will gut the 2nd Amendment.  I'll vote for her opponent no matter who it is. If Hillary wins, it is over. Cruzers have proven to me that Hillary is acceptable.

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And when he farts rainbows shoot out his Arse.   You really really believe he means and will stand by every promise he makes, don't you?   He already has proven he says what his audience wants to hear, and then flip-flops to a total different audience, like on a CNN interview. What that describes best is a "flaming" say-anything to get elected politician.

You believe Lyin'Ted's farts. A lawyer/politician who couldn't get 50% in his home state.

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How many died in the wool, flaming liberals do you know with a concealed carry permit who want to make CCP's  reciprocal for all 50 states, just like drivers licenses?
Is  what he said TODAY. How many dyed in the wool Conservatives want tax increases, touchback amnesty, legalized transgender bathroom use,.... the list goes on.
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All his supporters care about on this issue is the wall.  As long as there is a wall, everything is solved.  But it's got to be a big wall, a YUGE wall... maybe even a Great Wall.
By the time he gets done "walking it back" it will be a picket fence with a very large gate and a welcome mat.
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By the time he gets done "walking it back" it will be a picket fence with a very large gate and a welcome mat.

But it will be the best welcome mat ever made, so we should all be happy and proud.................... right??   :smokin:
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