Trump Supporters Walk Out of Georgia Delegate Fight After Party Picks Cruz Supporter…’Uproar in the Hall’

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http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/16/trump-13/



by Patrick Howley16 Apr 20164,463
Donald Trump supporters walked out of a delegate election in Georgia Saturday to protest a vote that robbed Trump of all of his slated delegates from a district that he won in the primary.

A Cruz-Rubio alliance at the district convention in Buford, Georgia helped to knock Trump supporters out of the district’s national delegation altogether. Cruz supporters implied that Trump’s people would “embarrass” the district at the convention in Cleveland. Then things got heated.

“This morning, I attended Georgia 7th Congressional District GOP convention as a delegate and a Donald Trump supporter. We were there to elect the 3 delegates and 3 alternates to the national convention,” Ronnie Kurtz told Breitbart News. “Per the primary results, two slots were for Trump, and one was for Rubio. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)
97%
finished third in the primary and had no delegates allotted to him…Nonetheless, the hall was stacked with Cruz delegates.”

On the first ballot, the party voted on a delegate slate that would have taken away one of Trump’s delegates but would have, at least, still given him one representative. That bloc would have given Trump supporter Debbie Dooley one of the slots and a Cruz supporter named Carolyn Fisher another slot, with a Rubio slot going to local party convention chairman BJ Van Gundy. But Cruz supporters voted down that slate.

So on the next ballot it came time to replace one or all of those delegates with new people. The Cruz supporters managed to knock out Dooley, the one Trump supporter. Kurtz described what happened:

    When it came time for nominations from the floor, the Cruz bloc, which I believe had the numbers to install whoever they wanted, did not challenge the Rubio delegate. Only the true Trump supporter, Debbie Dooley, was challenged. Two Cruz supporters argued in favor of their alternative delegate, a Mr. David Hancock, on the premise that he had ‘been in the party from the beginning’ and ‘wouldn’t embarrass us at the convention.’ The convention was given no time to ask questions of the candidates on the basis that ‘the nominating committee has already interviewed them for you’. The Cruz people succeeded in voting in their delegate over Trump’s Debbie Dooley.

“There was an immediate uproar in the hall, and all the Trump delegates walked out in protest. The Trump County campaign manager had conveniently brought the American flag on display in the hall and took it with him after this undercutting of democracy,” Kurtz said.

“So, after a hard fought campaign in which Trump won the primary in district 7 fair and square, no one who supports him will be representing the district in his slots at the national convention,” Kurtz added.

This video obtained by Breitbart News shows the process that led to the Trump supporters’ defeat:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwDzNjkFTpg

[ABX]

Someone got out dealed again.

[Wingnut]

Someone got out dealed again.

Schlonged would be a better discription

[sinkspur]

Cruz has figured out a way to out organize Trump even in places where he's won. So, those delegates chosen in this Georgia district will vote for Trump on the first ballot, but that's it.

Outplayed and outclassed. 

There are three kinds of people in life:  Those who make things happen, those who have things happen to them,  and those who wonder what happened.  Trump's supporters are in the latter class.

[Wingnut]

Trump is a master at playing himself as a victim.   

[sinkspur]

[libertybele]

Schlonged would be a better discription

 

[A-Lert]

This isn't going to help unify the "Stupid Party". What is it that anti-Trumps complain about? Ethics? 

[Mesaclone]

The FACT is that voters were disenfranchised. Its embarrassing that people who call themselves Republicans would be OK with such a thing. No...check that...its disgusting. Worse, all of this unethical behavior is for nothing, as Trump is STILL going to be the nominee. But it DOES show just how ethically unfit Ted Cruz is for the Presidency...any man willing to disenfranchise voters does not deserve to be in the White House. And if the rules allow it, the rules might as well say the votes of Jews or African Americans or Women do not count...the mere fact of being a rule, does not make that rule ethical. In this case, it clearly is not.

[libertybele]

I find it really quite unsettling that Trump is running for the president of the United States of America and doesn't even understand the nomination process involved. The same process that he is dependent upon in order to win the nomination.  How does one expect to win the nomination when they don't understand what's involved?  I find it very disheartening that he didn't even take the time to do his research.  He has often made comment that as president he will hire the greatest people.  IF he relied on others to navigate the nominate process for him, then this is indicative of the type of people he would hire (appoint). God help this country.

[Bill Cipher]

The FACT is that voters were disenfranchised. Its embarrassing that people who call themselves Republicans would be OK with such a thing. No...check that...its disgusting. Worse, all of this unethical behavior is for nothing, as Trump is STILL going to be the nominee. But it DOES show just how ethically unfit Ted Cruz is for the Presidency...any man willing to disenfranchise voters does not deserve to be in the White House. And if the rules allow it, the rules might as well say the votes of Jews or African Americans or Women do not count...the mere fact of being a rule, does not make that rule ethical. In this case, it clearly is not.

Cry me a river.  Every voter who didn't vote for Trump in the winner-take-all states was disenfranchised.  You come back and talk about disenfranchisement when, and only when, Trump agrees to respect the votes of those people and instructs the delegates he got from those states to vote in proportion to the actual vote.

[ABX]

I find it really quite unsettling that Trump is running for the president of the United States of America and doesn't even understand the nomination process involved. The same process that he is dependent upon in order to win the nomination.  How does one expect to win the nomination when they don't understand what's involved?  I find it very disheartening that he didn't even take the time to do his research.  He has often made comment that as president he will hire the greatest people.  IF he relied on others to navigate the nominate process for him, then this is indicative of the type of people he would hire (appoint). God help this country.

Here is what is happening in a nutshell (copied from another thread).

Here is what is happening in West Virginia, Georgia, and many other States.

Example- Trump wins WV Precinct 1 giving him 3 delegate spots. Three weeks later, Precinct 1 comes together to select the delegates based on the votes.
Trump has 3 delegate spots assigned to him. He has no one working in Precinct 1 completing paper work and filing people to be those delegates.
3 Trump delegate spots are empty. The next person in line, Cruz, won 2 spots and he did the ground work and he has people in Precinct 1 completing the proper paperwork and signing up to be delegates.

Therefore Precinct 1 now has 2 delegates on record for Cruz, 0 for Trump.

Trump and his media friends like Drudge cry foul and cheating.

When in reality, it was Trump's own failure as a candidate to do what is necessary as a candidate after he wins the votes.

It is like winning a bid to build a casino then never showing up to actually build it.

[libertybele]

The FACT is that voters were disenfranchised. Its embarrassing that people who call themselves Republicans would be OK with such a thing. No...check that...its disgusting. Worse, all of this unethical behavior is for nothing, as Trump is STILL going to be the nominee. But it DOES show just how ethically unfit Ted Cruz is for the Presidency...any man willing to disenfranchise voters does not deserve to be in the White House. And if the rules allow it, the rules might as well say the votes of Jews or African Americans or Women do not count...the mere fact of being a rule, does not make that rule ethical. In this case, it clearly is not.

Cruz unethical?  Horse crap!  He is ABIDING by the RULES!!!  The same rules that have been around for the past 150 years.  To make this about race or ethnicity is something that I would expect from the DEMS.  Trump is a liberal.  His whining, accusations and playing the blame game shouldn't be surprising.

[libertybele]

Here is what is happening in a nutshell (copied from another thread).

Here is what is happening in West Virginia, Georgia, and many other States.

Example- Trump wins WV Precinct 1 giving him 3 delegate spots. Three weeks later, Precinct 1 comes together to select the delegates based on the votes.
Trump has 3 delegate spots assigned to him. He has no one working in Precinct 1 completing paper work and filing people to be those delegates.
3 Trump delegate spots are empty. The next person in line, Cruz, won 2 spots and he did the ground work and he has people in Precinct 1 completing the proper paperwork and signing up to be delegates.

Therefore Precinct 1 now has 2 delegates on record for Cruz, 0 for Trump.

Trump and his media friends like Drudge cry foul and cheating.

When in reality, it was Trump's own failure as a candidate to do what is necessary as a candidate after he wins the votes.

It is like winning a bid to build a casino then never showing up to actually build it.

Excellent post; excellent synopsis!

[Bill Cipher]

Here is what is happening in a nutshell (copied from another thread).

Here is what is happening in West Virginia, Georgia, and many other States.

Example- Trump wins WV Precinct 1 giving him 3 delegate spots. Three weeks later, Precinct 1 comes together to select the delegates based on the votes.
Trump has 3 delegate spots assigned to him. He has no one working in Precinct 1 completing paper work and filing people to be those delegates.
3 Trump delegate spots are empty. The next person in line, Cruz, won 2 spots and he did the ground work and he has people in Precinct 1 completing the proper paperwork and signing up to be delegates.

Therefore Precinct 1 now has 2 delegates on record for Cruz, 0 for Trump.

Trump and his media friends like Drudge cry foul and cheating.

When in reality, it was Trump's own failure as a candidate to do what is necessary as a candidate after he wins the votes.

It is like winning a bid to build a casino then never showing up to actually build it.

Thanks for explaining Trump's incompetence in plain English.

[Mesaclone]

Cry me a river.  Every voter who didn't vote for Trump in the winner-take-all states was disenfranchised.  You come back and talk about disenfranchisement when, and only when, Trump agrees to respect the votes of those people and instructs the delegates he got from those states to vote in proportion to the actual vote.

Until that happens, you're a fraud and a hypocrite who can't abide by the fact that his hero and supposed businessman par excellence got out dealed, again (and again and again and) by Cruz.

Nice try comparing apples and oranges. In a democracy, the voting decides all...if the state in question is winner take all, or a 2 to 1 setup, that is well within the pale of representative democracy. Very much akin to the electoral college setup. Playing manipulative games to steal delegates won in the voting process is an entirely different beast...a grossly unethical one. You chaps are all excited that your guy is really good at being unethical...congrats, Ted is the best at being corrupt and unethical.

As for being a fraud, you are exemplifying that term...you are willing to cheer on disenfranchisement, applaud corruption and undethical behavior, pretty much accept anything no matter how reprehensible...as long as it serves your interest of stopping Mr. Trump. Well, that is the very nature of the traits you throw at others on this board...go find a mirror and take a good long stare.

[Bill Cipher]

Nice try comparing apples and oranges. In a democracy, the voting decides all...if the state in question is winner take all, or a 2 to 1 setup, that is well within the pale of representative democracy. Very much akin to the electoral college setup. Playing manipulative games to steal delegates won in the voting process is an entirely different beast...a grossly unethical one. You chaps are all excited that your guy is really good about unethical...congrats, Ted is the best at being corrupt and unethical.

As for being a fraud, you are exemplifying that term...you are willing to cheer on disenfranchisement, applaud corruption and undethical behavior, pretty much accept anything no matter how reprehensible...as long as it serves your interest of stopping Mr. Trump. Well, that is the very nature of the traits you throw at others on this board...go find a mirror and take a good long stare.

Maybe if Trump had bothered to show up he would have gotten the delegates his supporters thought they were giving him.

Abaraxas' explanation is both straightforward, true, and damning when it comes to Trump.  The only person who defrauded the idiots dumb enough to vote for Trump was Trump.  He is the one who failed to do any follow through.  The vaunted businessman, author of art of the deal, couldn't seal one simple little deal, like actually getting his delegates registered.

You Trump people are absolutely amazing.  Even when your noses are rubbed in the poo of Trump's own incompetence all you can do is blame it on someone else.  I'm surprised you aren't blaming this on Michelle Fields as she seems to be the whipping girl du jour for your type.

[geronl]

They were outvoted, because Trump people are not motivated to do much more than whine and complain. Actually getting involved and showing up in  an extreme burden. 

[R4 TrumPence]

This thread is locked for clean up Sheesh!

[Mod2]

Some of us work and have no time to clean up the puerile vomitings of childish minds.

The NEXT one of you to degenerate a thread like this gets an extended posting vacation. To be absolutely clear, that means a-lert, bill, paladin, frank. And by extended I mean a month. Not a slap on the wrist time out.

Thread cleaned and unlocked.

[libertybele]

Trump is a master at playing himself as a victim.   

He also is a master at passing on incorrect information to his voters and preying upon their emotions.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Every voter who didn't vote for Trump in the winner-take-all states was disenfranchised. 

Your statement is wrong, Bill.  "Disenfranchised" is to deprive someone of a legal vote, 

Because they were allowed to vote, none of the people who voted for someone other than Trump was "disenfranchised".   

[DCPatriot]

There are three kinds of people in life:  Those who make things happen, those who have things happen to them,  and those who wonder what happened.  Trump's supporters are in the latter class.

No..."Those that come in through the door...those that come through the window."     

[Bill Cipher]

Thanks JR.

[musiclady]

Cruz unethical?  Horse crap!  He is ABIDING by the RULES!!!  The same rules that have been around for the past 150 years.  To make this about race or ethnicity is something that I would expect from the DEMS.  Trump is a liberal.  His whining, accusations and playing the blame game shouldn't be surprising.

Don't you get it, libertybele??  To the whining crowd it is the RULES that are "unethical."

Any RULE or LAW that hurts little Donnie isn't fair.  The world must bow to little Donnie, because he wants to be king.