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Vintage attack planes used in Vietnam are brought out of retirement to help US special forces defeat ISIS in Iraq



By Lydia Willgress for MailOnline

Published: 10:30 EST, 10 March 2016 | Updated: 03:46 EST, 11 March 2016


Two vintage planes used in the Vietnam War have been brought out of retirement to help US special forces in Iraq.

A pair of OV-10 Broncos completed 120 combat missions over the Middle East between May and September last year, it has been revealed.

The turbo-prop jet is thought to have carried out 134 sorties over 82 days in May, acting as cover for the soldiers fighting ISIS terrorists on the ground.

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OV-10 Broncos were used in the Vietnam War and have been brought out of retirement to help US forces in Iraq


US Central Command would not confirm where they were based or the targets they attacked but said they were part of Operation Inherent Resolve, the American led operation against the extremists in Syria and Iraq.

The planes, which can take off at very short notice and fly very low, could be being used to assist American special forces, the Daily Beast reported.

The armament that can be fitted onto the plane includes, but is not limited to, machine guns carrying 2,000 rounds and Sidewinder air-to-air missiles.

They are thought to use this armament to gun down the extremists before they have a chance to flee the ground troops.

The US military is testing the Broncos in Iraq and Syria to see if they can replace the more expensive F-15s and F/A-18s which carry out most of the airstrikes in the countries, Central Command spokesman Force Captain P Bryant Davis told the Daily Beast.

Whereas an F-15 can cost up to $40,000 per flight, a Bronco can operate for just $1,000 for every hour it is in the air.
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The armament that can be fitted onto the OV-10 (pictured) includes, but is not limited to, machine guns carrying 2,000 rounds and Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Whereas an F-15 can cost up to $40,000 per flight, a Bronco (pictured) can operate for just $1,000 for every hour it is in the air
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Whereas an F-15 can cost up to $40,000 per flight, a Bronco (pictured) can operate for just $1,000 for every hour it is in the air

The OV-10, developed by the US as a small and cheap attack plane in the 1960s, was first used in Vietnam because they could take off from rough airfields near to the battlefront.

The Navy retired its Broncos conflict and the Air Force replaced them with jet powered A-10 aircraft until they too dropped them in the 1990s.

But 30 years after the Vietnam War, the Americans called on them yet again for the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The military's decision to plough $20million into the OV-10s in 2012 was blasted by many, including former presidential candidate John McCain who said 'there is no urgent operational requirement for this type of aircraft'.

The jets completed 99 per cent of their missions during their 82 days of combat, Davis said.

Now, Lieutenant General Bradley Heithold, the head of the Air Force Special Operations Command, has suggested they will continued to be used in attack missions.

The aircraft made its debut in Vietnam in July 1965.

Bombing raid commanders known as forward air controllers used OV-10s to make observations in preparation for air raids during the conflict in Vietnam.
The Broncos were replaced by the jet powered A-10 Tankbuster aircraft (pictured) also known as the Warthog.
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The Broncos were replaced by the jet powered A-10 Tankbuster aircraft (pictured) also known as the Warthog.
The aircraft's first flight was in July 1965 and they were mainly used for observations and light attacks during the Vietnam War (above)
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The aircraft's first flight was in July 1965 and they were mainly used for observations and light attacks during the Vietnam War (above)

The highly-adaptable planes proved highly successful and performed dozens of missions for the US Navy and Air Force.

Eighty-one Broncos were lost during Vietnam but the aircraft have continued to be used by forces across the world ever since.

The planes can carry two crew members and have a maximum speed of 281mph.

The two that have been used in Iraq and Syria are thought to have come from Nasa, who snapped up the retired planes to carry out airborne tests, or the State Department, who had sent Broncos to Columbia in a bid to crackdown on drugs.

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Old, Slow and Easy to Blow out of the sky.  At 1st glance it would seem to be a waste of money. 

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Slow and low is good for close support flying. What's the sense of blazing in at Mach 1? By the time you know you've missed and need make another pass, you are 50 miles away.

And easily shot down is debatable - most shoulder carried systems have a hell of a time getting a lock on anything that comes in below 100 feet. F-16s and F-35s rely on speed to defeat the lock at higher altitudes. The A-10, Mi- 24, Apaches and the Bronco rely on the sneak approach. Both have their down sides, but shooting down a Bronco, you are out a million, tops (the last 20 put up for sale I could find in a quick google search went for $2,400 each.). Take out an F-35,you are out somewhere north of $150 million. Throw in the economy of the air hour cost, and the relative durations each aircraft can handle, and the Bronco is a highly cost effective strike platform.

Also - they are designed to be maintained by tired grunts using chewing gum and good wishes. Also a bonus when you are working out of the ass end of nowhere.
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Also - they are designed to be maintained by tired grunts using chewing gum and good wishes. Also a bonus when you are working out of the ass end of nowhere.

Well as Red Green says, "Spare the Duct Tape, Spoil the job."

My comment was more of an endorsement of the A-10 to fight the muzzleheads.   Granted you can't keep an A-10 in the air with spit and baling wire nor all the duct tape in the world.....

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Oh, I totally agree! The A-10 is perfection at it's task. It's probably the ultimate in fixed wing close support craft until someone develops a reliable AI.

They are also pretty field friendly too - if you have two crashed A-10s, a half way decent mechanic can put together one working one (with a lot of willing help!). Virtually nothing on them is handed - almost anything from the port side can go on the starboard side and vice versa. Again, a little bit of design elegance for actual combat conditions. Kartveli is a genius, without a doubt.
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Oh, I totally agree! The A-10 is perfection at it's task. It's probably the ultimate in fixed wing close support craft until someone develops a reliable AI.

Exactly why Obama doesn't want it there.

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It's not just the Worm, my friend. Not even mostly, in this case - you know what the brass are like. They love their shiny new tech toys, the poor buggers who have to actually use them be damned!
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Hell, bring back some Sky Raiders!

Maybe a Sopwith Camel or two?