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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-university-fraud-allegations_us_56ddf3b9e4b0000de405887c

Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video

He calls out two men by name and says he's "looking for" a woman, all of whom have said they were scammed by his program.
 
03/07/2016 06:42 pm ET


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Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump on Monday released a video in which he defends himself against fraud charges related to the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative. Formerly known as Trump University, the real estate investment seminar is facing multiple class-action lawsuits in different states from attendees who claim it was a scam.

In the video, Trump reveals the full names of two former Trump University participants who say they were ripped off by the program. He holds up positive course evaluation forms he says they filled out.

Trump adds that he's "looking for" a third program customer, presumably referring to a woman who also publicly has claimed she was scammed by Trump's business.

The men Trump mentions in his video both appeared in ads funded by the nonprofit American Future Fund, a conservative group with ties to billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch.

In those videos, people -- identified by first names only -- describe spending more than $30,000 on Trump University seminars, and allege that they did not receive the guidance and instruction they were promised.

"Trump University ruined my credit, and it ruined my life," says a man in an AFF ad.

The people who participated in the AFF ad campaign have all since released their full names to the media.


The new Trump video sends a message to anyone else who may consider speaking out against the businessman or his shady endeavors: He will not hesitate to name you and tacitly encourage his millions of Twitter followers to find you.

When The Huffington Post asked Trump's lawyer, Alan Garten, about the decision to name the fraud victims in the video, he said, "While these individuals may have at one time wished to remain anonymous, they lost that right when they injected themselves into the discussion by agreeing to be featured in a nationally televised commercial."


Trump says in the video that the alleged fraud victims would be presented with their positive reviews of the Trump University seminars in court.

"When they are on the stand, they will be shown and shown [sic] these reports," he said.

"Why would anybody settle a case when we have reports like this?" Trump asks. "I just can't do it."

Trump then compared his defense of fraud charges to the United States, which he says should fight back against, well, it's not clear. 

"And you know what? The United States should fight back also," he says. "We shouldn't just be settlers, we should fight back. And do what's right."
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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2016, 02:07:24 pm »
Creepiness factor:

All Trump's field offices feature a bust of Trump:

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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2016, 02:11:05 pm »
i dont see the real beef.  If you put yourself into the public discussion on a disputed issue, you make yourself a legitimate subject of inquiry.  If you want anonymity, don't go on national TV.  Honestly, didn't it occur that anyone who knew them personally could identify them even without any names being used.  The issue with Trump Unicversity is the fraud he engaged in, not whether he's identifying people who have put themselves into the discussion, or waving about evidence he wants to use on them.  In fact that second was stupid f Trump because now all the plaintiffs will be ready to explain why they were coerced into signing fake positive evaluations as part of Trumps fraud.  Dumb Donald, real dumb. 

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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2016, 02:11:43 pm »
Creepiness factor:

All Trump's field offices feature a bust of Trump:



Eh. Just pathetic.  It shows how insecure he is. 

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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2016, 02:18:31 pm »
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3. Trump U rigged its course ratings: Before the suit was filed, Trump pushed back preemptively, starting a website to make his case. "Trump University has a 98% approval rating," the site reads, "So why is New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman wasting millions in taxpayer money going after them?": According to the filing, "Trump University instructors also asked that students complete evaluations in order to receive their Certificates of Competition for the course and 'pleaded for a favorable rating so that 'Mr. Trump would invite [them] back to do other retreats.' Mentors compelled students to complete the non-anonymous evaluations in their presence, filled out the forms themselves or pressured students into giving them higher scores or completing the evaluations before they had an opportunity to see if Trump University's promises would be fulfilled."

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/08/donald-trump-university-new-york-lawsuit
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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2016, 02:19:15 pm »
People bitch about the comparisons of Trump and Hitler, yet here he is rounding up people against him or making him look bad.

Can't wait till President Trump has control of the Justice Dept.

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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2016, 02:26:11 pm »

Donald Trump refuses to yield to ambulance chasing lawyers. Good for him.

Attorneys sue large corporations and wealthy individuals because, as Willy Sutton put it when asked why he robbed banks, he said "because that's where the money is."

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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2016, 02:35:22 pm »
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/08/donald-trump-university-new-york-lawsuit

Mother Jones? Really? Digging up the left-wing Mother Jones for support. :silly:

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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2016, 02:35:57 pm »
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9. Students were told to lie to their credit card companies: Instructors "urged students to call their credit card companies during a break in the sessions, requesting increases to their credit limits…Trump University even provided handouts with scripted talking points for students to use in their phone calls with credit card companies, explicitly encouraging people to falsify their current income, 'add[ing] projected income from our future real estate ventures,' and to deceive credit card companies by declaring income streams from corporate entities that had not been created, with a script telling students: 'If they ask you to prove income, inform them that it will be too much trouble to put all the paperwork together.'… Trump University misrepresentations regarding credit limits had the effect of damaging students' credit scores, contrary to the claims made at the free seminars that Trump University would help increase students' credit scores."
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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2016, 02:37:59 pm »
Donald Trump refuses to yield to ambulance chasing lawyers. Good for him.

Attorneys sue large corporations and wealthy individuals because, as Willy Sutton put it when asked why he robbed banks, he said "because that's where the money is."

Not "attorneys."  The Attorney General of New York filed the suit:

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Last Saturday, New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman announced that he was filing a lawsuit against real estate mogul and hair victim Donald Trump, alleging that his Trump University real-estate training program had engaged in "persistent fraudulent, illegal and deceptive conduct." The charges claim that Trump U, which is not licensed as an actual school, had promised that "Donald Trump's handpicked instructor" would share his investing secrets, but more often left its "students" with diminished savings or tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Instead of the savvy investment advice and contact with willing and interested financial backers, students were run through a series of increasingly expensive seminars that mostly served to cajole them into signing up for the next seminar.
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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2016, 02:51:48 pm »
Instead of settling he has promised the plaintiffs that he will keep this case going for years.  Guess he hopes to further harm the people he robbed in the first place.   What a great guy, our 'hero'.

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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2016, 05:57:19 pm »
Donald Trump refuses to yield to ambulance chasing lawyers. Good for him.

Attorneys sue large corporations and wealthy individuals because, as Willy Sutton put it when asked why he robbed banks, he said "because that's where the money is."

So you are sufficiently aware of all the facts and all the laws to know that the plaintiffs have no case and their lawyers are just trying extortion by litigation?  How'd you come by such omniscience?

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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2016, 05:59:00 pm »
Instead of settling he has promised the plaintiffs that he will keep this case going for years.  Guess he hopes to further harm the people he robbed in the first place.   What a great guy, our 'hero'.

But Trump is still allowed to defend the case and not settle.  The plaintiffs must have known this when they sued so it's their fault if they can't stay the course. 

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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2016, 06:11:41 pm »
Civil damages, equals ambulance chasing contingency lawyers.

Plaintiffs typically go after anybody and everybody with deep pockets, which surely fits defendant Trump.

Trial lawyers are almost entirely contributors to liberal, democrat candidates. That is a simple fact.

If you have ever been near these lawyers, prepare yourself to be disinfected quickly.

I am involved with one such case right now, as an officer and director for a non-profit organization. The lawyer is the worst of the worst. Or in other words just the type of guy that certain anti-Trump fanatics here, would be drawn to.
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Trump is firing back against TU students who are speaking out against him.
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Donald Trump released a video Monday that took aim directly at two of the former students of Trump University currently accusing him of fraud.

In the three-minute video, entitled “Trump University Truth,” which was posted to Trump’s official YouTube page, Trump reads positive feedback reports from Bob and Kevin and reveals their full names; he also mentions a third alumnus, who he says the campaign is “looking for.”....

...The Post notes further that “the ’98 percent’ approval claim generally is based on surveys after the free presentation. They were not anonymous, and people were encouraged to give positive ratings in hopes of receiving program discounts or a certificate of completion. It is not a credible figure.”

Trump ends the video by asserting that he will take the case all the way to court.....

http://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/trump-releases-video-naming-and-threatening-former-trump-university-students/



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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2016, 07:15:08 pm »
Sink where is the threat? Threatening a witness is a serious charge.  I clicked on the video and was forced to sit through Trump showing a bunch of paper's he claims backs up his side of the story. Made me nauseated, but I sat through it, waiting for a threat that did not happen.
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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2016, 07:26:16 pm »
Sink where is the threat? Threatening a witness is a serious charge.  I clicked on the video and was forced to sit through Trump showing a bunch of paper's he claims backs up his side of the story. Made me nauseated, but I sat through it, waiting for a threat that did not happen.

Why do you think he's naming them?  He's attempting to intimidate them, which he could have done had he not been running for president.  Too many people know about this scam now and the victims are going to more readily come forward.
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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2016, 07:37:00 pm »
Sink where is the threat? Threatening a witness is a serious charge.  I clicked on the video and was forced to sit through Trump showing a bunch of paper's he claims backs up his side of the story. Made me nauseated, but I sat through it, waiting for a threat that did not happen.

Near the end of the article I posted: Trump ends the video by asserting that he will take the case all the way to court.....

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Re: Donald Trump Threatens Trump University Fraud Victims In New Video
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2016, 08:34:24 pm »
Why do you think he's naming them?  He's attempting to intimidate them, which he could have done had he not been running for president.  Too many people know about this scam now and the victims are going to more readily come forward.
Well the people had to know their names would be out,lest they be  proven frauds.  Which btw, if they are legit, what's the problem :shrug:
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2016, 08:37:41 pm »
Well the people had to know their names would be out,lest they be  proven frauds.  Which btw, if they are legit, what's the problem :shrug:

Now that Trump U is an issue in this campaign, there really isn't a problem. For them. 

For Trump, there IS a problem.
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2016, 08:45:45 pm »
Now that Trump U is an issue in this campaign, there really isn't a problem. For them. 

For Trump, there IS a problem.

It is a problem for them if, he has rave reviews from those people, proofing they are lying.


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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2016, 08:54:20 pm »
If the source is HuffPo about a GOP candidate, it just has to be true!  :thud:

How pathetic!

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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2016, 08:54:46 pm »
It is a problem for them if, he has rave reviews from those people, proofing they are lying.

From the Mother Jones article.  The reviews are frauds, too:

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3. Trump U rigged its course ratings: Before the suit was filed, Trump pushed back preemptively, starting a website to make his case. "Trump University has a 98% approval rating," the site reads, "So why is New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman wasting millions in taxpayer money going after them?": According to the filing, "Trump University instructors also asked that students complete evaluations in order to receive their Certificates of Competition for the course and 'pleaded for a favorable rating so that 'Mr. Trump would invite [them] back to do other retreats.' Mentors compelled students to complete the non-anonymous evaluations in their presence, filled out the forms themselves or pressured students into giving them higher scores or completing the evaluations before they had an opportunity to see if Trump University's promises would be fulfilled."
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2016, 08:58:39 pm »
From the Mother Jones article.  The reviews are frauds, too:

Huffpo and Mother Jones???  Seriously?


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