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"'Burn it All Down' is Not the Answer, Trump Fans"
« on: February 23, 2016, 02:42:57 am »
By David French
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431720/donald-trump-voters-want-destroyer

In the past few weeks and months, I’ve had countless conversations with friends and neighbors who support
Donald Trump. I live in the heart of Trump Country, in a small southern town with a median income well below
the national average. And while the dominant Evangelical vote is split between Trump, Cruz, and Rubio, Trump
gets more than his share of support, even from people who are staunchly pro-life and supported the Iraq War
until the end.

When Trump first announced his candidacy, many of my Evangelical friends and neighbors were thrilled by his
stance on border control. They were tired of the notion that “compassion” somehow required immigration
policies that made America more vulnerable to terrorism, drove down wages for working-class voters, and
overwhelmed social services. And they were sick to death of political correctness. So while they didn’t necessarily
admire Trump’s character, they admired his strength.

Indeed, that strength is the secret to Trump’s success. It’s the quality that allows him to paint such an effective
contrast to the Republican political class, so widely perceived as weak and feckless. Trump voters find themselves
caught between a Democratic political class that will bend every engine of the government to its will and a
Republican opposition that can’t seem to hold a single public official accountable, conduct a single hearing with
real competence, or do one meaningful thing to stop the president’s overreach
. As one neighbor put it, “Can
you honestly tell me that Republicans and Democrats are equally dedicated to their principles?
Republicans
say they’ll fight, and they never do.


Yes, there are unrealistic expectations. Generations of bipartisan congressional action helped create the runaway
regulatory state, and the Democrats control the bureaucracy so effortlessly because they are the bureaucracy.
What Obama wants, the bureaucrats will give him — and more. What Republicans want, the bureaucrats will
resist to the point of lawlessness. But the bottom-line criticism rings true. The Democrats are very good to
their base. Republicans are very good at using their base to win elections, and abandoning their promises at
the first opportunity thereafter.


But the argument for Trump as a cure-all for this sorry state of affairs kept collapsing every time he opened his
mouth. As the race has dragged on, he’s proven that he would be a “strong” leader. But for what purpose would
that strength be employed? To keep funding Planned Parenthood? To establish a bizarre form of touchback amnesty
disguised as “toughness” on the border
? To ruin relationships with the Kurds, our
most stalwart fighting force against ISIS? To cozy up to Vladimir Putin? To replace Obamacare with something
even worse?

As the evidence mounts that Trump isn’t exactly channeling justifiable conservative (or even populist) anger for
constructive ends, Trump’s fans have found themselves reduced to a single argument in his defense: Even if he’s
wrong on substance and they reject his personal values, at least he’ll “burn it all down.” He’ll wreck the broken
system and destroy a failed party. Every other Republican will maintain some form of the status quo, but not
Trump. He’s the destroyer. And given the failure of the Republican party, destruction is the answer Trump
voters seek.

Yet it’s hard to think of an answer more antithetical to the spirit of the American Revolution and our Constitution
than “burn it all down.” The American colonists, faced with a crisis far graver than the crises we face today,
decided not to “burn it all down” but to build something. Even before the “shot heard round the world,” they built
a Continental Congress, a representative body that could express their grievances to the crown.

Immediately after the fateful shots on Lexington Green, they built a standing army led by a distinguished
general, and fashioned a coherent argument about liberty and democracy that has endured for more than
two centuries. The constitution that is that argument’s foundational document has endured for two centuries,
underpinning a participatory democracy and the individual liberty it represents.

The torch and pitchfork, meanwhile, are instruments of the French revolutionary, of the nihilist who lives
only to take revenge on his enemies, with a will to power but no interest in justice. Replace men who
surrender to Planned Parenthood with a man who embraces Planned Parenthood? Replace men who
supported a path to legalization with a man who supports amnesty? Replace men who failed to stop Obamacare
with a man who embraces single-payer health care? Nominate a man who believes in Iraq War conspiracy theories
to confront the party that spawned those theories? Meet the new boss.
He’ll be the same as the old.

You say you want a revolution? Well, “burn, baby, burn” is the language of the Left. The true American
revolutionary builds, and that means supporting people with high character and true conservative
convictions. It means doing the difficult work of repairing our constitutional democracy, which includes
repairing our own families and communities. It means supporting a convention of states to undo decades of
damage inflicted on our constitution by feckless ideologues in the judiciary and in public office.

An American revolution isn’t a temper tantrum. It’s hard work. It’s anger channeled into virtue. Trump
represents anger stripped of virtue. He will burn the GOP, but what will he build in its place?

David French is an attorney and a staff writer at National Review.

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Re: "'Burn it All Down' is Not the Answer, Trump Fans"
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2016, 02:49:05 am »
The ultimate tribalism:  US against THEM. And we will make THEM pay.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2016, 02:56:16 am »
That's right, Sink.

We have to get their attention.  'Burn' it down.

We've had lip service and broken promises or dereliction of duty since the 2010 Mid-Terms.

So...we'll use the Democrat to get into the White House, because the Conservatives were apparently tied up and ball-gagged.  Not a peep.

I figure a Democrat vs. Socialist/Marxist should have pretty good odds. The country's not THAT nuts yet, is it?   :laugh:
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Re: "'Burn it All Down' is Not the Answer, Trump Fans"
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2016, 02:59:47 am »
I figure a Democrat vs. Socialist/Marxist should have pretty good odds. The country's not THAT nuts yet, is it?   :laugh:
Yes, it is.

Unfortunately so is the rest of the world; otherwise I would've fled years ago.
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Re: "'Burn it All Down' is Not the Answer, Trump Fans"
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2016, 03:03:30 am »
When the foundation is rotten to the core and full of termites, there is no option but to "burn it down" and start over.
Better now while we are still drawing a breath rather than leave it for our kids and grandkids to try to fix it.

The D's and R's have castrated the checks and balances inherent with our system, it has become nothing more than one huge prostitute available to the highest bidder.

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Re: "'Burn it All Down' is Not the Answer, Trump Fans"
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2016, 03:29:37 am »
When the foundation is rotten to the core . . . .

The foundation is quite concrete. But a rat makes a terrible exterminator and carries
diseases of his own in the bargain. Mr. Trump, alas, would be such a rat, as Mr. Obama
has been.

(Clarification: To me, the Constitution is the foundation. And while the Remocrats and
Depublicans have neutered the checks and balances, I'm not convinced The Donald
is going to restore them. Not just because he's been an adept system manipulator himself for
what now seems eons, the kind of manipulator who carries his own infections into the
infestation, but also because we have for several generations placed excess
faith in a kind of elected monarch---investing the Presidency with too much beyond
its constitutional prescription, and objecting so little when given presidents regardless
of party behave like such monarchs. The Donald would love nothing more than to
become such an elected monarch, regardless of whether he actually knows what he's
doing . . . or whether he can distinguish between the foundation and the top structure's
infestation.)


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Re: "'Burn it All Down' is Not the Answer, Trump Fans"
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2016, 03:39:27 am »
Actually, "Burn it all down" is a perfectly acceptable answer when the subject matter is broken beyond repair.
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Re: "'Burn it All Down' is Not the Answer, Trump Fans"
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2016, 03:41:23 am »
That's right, Sink.

We have to get their attention.  'Burn' it down.

We've had lip service and broken promises or dereliction of duty since the 2010 Mid-Terms.

So...we'll use the Democrat to get into the White House, because the Conservatives were apparently tied up and ball-gagged.  Not a peep.

I figure a Democrat vs. Socialist/Marxist should have pretty good odds. The country's not THAT nuts yet, is it?   :laugh:

You've lost your 'effing mind.  Nothing but an emotional, low-level consciousness rant.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2016, 03:47:02 am »
You've lost your 'effing mind.  Nothing but an emotional, low-level consciousness rant.

I'm done, Sink!

The only thing that is going to beat Trump is if somebody k*lls him.  Get used to it.

And hopefully, we won't need your vote.

And I hope to live many years into Trump's presidency to keep giving you raspberries.    :laugh:
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Re: "'Burn it All Down' is Not the Answer, Trump Fans"
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2016, 03:55:29 am »
I'm done, Sink!

The only thing that is going to beat Trump is if somebody k*lls him.  Get used to it.

And hopefully, we won't need your vote.

And I hope to live many years into Trump's presidency to keep giving you raspberries.    :laugh:

Trump cannot win.  If he manages to, he will have backtracked on every issue that caused you to support him.

But issues, for you, don't matter.

Just the strongman personality of Donald Trump.

The essence of cultism.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2016, 11:58:42 am »
I'm done, Sink!

The only thing that is going to beat Trump is if somebody k*lls him.  Get used to it.

And hopefully, we won't need your vote.

And I hope to live many years into Trump's presidency to keep giving you raspberries.    :laugh:
If he wins, I'd have to shut down my social media because people like you would be joining the secret police to hunt down people like me. Do you realize the kind of despot you're gleefully cheering on? Of course you do, but only because you're not the enemy.
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Re: "'Burn it All Down' is Not the Answer, Trump Fans"
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2016, 12:36:41 pm »
When the foundation is rotten to the core and full of termites, there is no option but to "burn it down" and start over.
Better now while we are still drawing a breath rather than leave it for our kids and grandkids to try to fix it.

The D's and R's have castrated the checks and balances inherent with our system, it has become nothing more than one huge prostitute available to the highest bidder. 

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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2016, 12:37:57 pm »
If he wins, I'd have to shut down my social media because people like you would be joining the secret police to hunt down people like me. Do you realize the kind of despot you're gleefully cheering on? Of course you do, but only because you're not the enemy.

If he loses, America loses.  Maybe for generations.  Perhaps longer.
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