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Ted Cruz has two big problems
« on: February 21, 2016, 04:45:09 am »
Ted Cruz Has Two Big Problems
by TIM ALBERTA   
February 20, 2016 10:22 PM

Charleston, S.C. — 72 percent.

That’s the number of Republican voters in South Carolina’s primary that identified as evangelical or born-again Christians, according to exit polling. That’s an eye-popping, record-shattering figure: It was 65 percent in South Carolina’s 2012 GOP primary, and 60 percent in 2008.  With three-quarters of the electorate identifying as evangelical, it was shaping up as a great night for Ted Cruz, who launched his campaign at Liberty University and has boasted of building a “firewall” to dominate the March 1 southern states because of their ultra-conservative, religious composition. South Carolina represented the first test of that theory.

Cruz failed. Among South Carolina’s evangelical Republican voters, Trump won 33 percent, Cruz won 27 percent, and Rubio won 22 percent. And while Cruz did carry the 38 percent of “very conservative” voters in the state, it wasn’t enough to finish anywhere close to Trump. Nor was it enough to beat Rubio, whom he finished roughly 1,000 votes behind.

This spells trouble for Cruz on Super Tuesday. He remains better-organized than any other candidate across the south (which should make a difference, considering both Trump and Rubio benefited from having impressive field operations in South Carolina). But there’s no question Cruz’s inability to carry the evangelical vote here portends poorly for him in states of similar ideological and demographic makeup.

That’s a big problem for Cruz on March 1. But he faces even bigger challenges beyond then. Both Trump and Rubio performed evenly with non-evangelicals in South Carolina: Trump took 30 percent, and Rubio took 22 percent. But Cruz saw a significant drop-off, winning just 13 percent of that group. This echoes Cruz’s performance in Iowa (33 percent with evangelicals, 19 percent with non-evangelicals) and New Hampshire (24 percent with evangelicals, 8 percent with non-evangelicals).

Overall, the result for Cruz was discouraging. In a conservative, evangelical-dominated, southern state — much like those his campaign has promised to win on Super Tuesday — he finished third behind Trump and Rubio. (The tally with 99 percent of precincts reporting: Trump 32.5 percent, Rubio 22.5 percent, Cruz 22.3 percent.) Cruz has labored to avoid being narrowly cast, à la Rick Santorum in 2012 and Mike Huckabee in 2008, as a Christian candidate with limited appeal to the rest of the party. But while he is undeniably better-funded and better-organized than those candidates, Cruz’s numbers thus far have been eerily similar.

In Iowa, Santorum’s split among evangelicals and non-evangelicals was 32-14. Huckabee won 46 percent of evangelicals but tanked among non-evangelicals (entrance polls didn’t provide an exact number).  In New Hampshire, Santorum’s split was 23-6. Huckabee won 28 percent of evangelicals, but again flopped with non-evangelicals, taking just 11 percent of the vote among them statewide. In South Carolina, Santorum’s split was 21-10. Huckabee’s was 43-14. Both Huckabee and Santorum were successful in the south, winning a number of states in the Bible Belt to keep their campaigns alive in 2008 and 2012, respectively. But neither had broad enough appeal to compete when the race moved to bigger, less religious states.

Cruz seems to have inherited that same problem. But first he must grapple with the reality that he doesn’t have southern evangelicals locked down the way Huckabee and Santorum did.

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Re: Ted Cruz has two big problems
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2016, 04:58:38 am »
I don't see Cruz dropping out.  He reportedly has $19 million cash on hand.

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Re: Ted Cruz has two big problems
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2016, 05:02:44 am »
Rubio will outspend him now that Bush is out.

And he will OUTSPEND him, by a lot.

If Cruz takes this to the end, and Trump wins the nomination, he's finished in presidential politics.
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Re: Ted Cruz has two big problems
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2016, 05:13:54 am »
Rubio will outspend him now that Bush is out.

And he will OUTSPEND him, by a lot.

If Cruz takes this to the end, and Trump wins the nomination, he's finished in presidential politics.

I would love to believe you are correct, but Bush spent millions and got nothing.  And I don't see how a Trump nomination kills Cruz's future prospects.  Could you elaborate if you have the time?

Why does a Trump nomination kill Cruz's future prospects when complete disrespect of the GOPe has him tied for 2nd place?

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Re: Ted Cruz has two big problems
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2016, 05:54:05 am »
I would love to believe you are correct, but Bush spent millions and got nothing.  And I don't see how a Trump nomination kills Cruz's future prospects.  Could you elaborate if you have the time?

Why does a Trump nomination kill Cruz's future prospects when complete disrespect of the GOPe has him tied for 2nd place?

He will be blamed for losing the nomination Presidency for the GOP.

They already don't like him (understatement).
« Last Edit: February 21, 2016, 05:54:33 am by Luis Gonzalez »
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Re: Ted Cruz has two big problems
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2016, 01:37:28 pm »
Bottom line:  Cruz carved out a very narrow path of voters and he's not winning the majority of them.

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Re: Ted Cruz has two big problems
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2016, 02:09:20 pm »
Bottom line:  Cruz carved out a very narrow path of voters and he's not winning the majority of them.

That is his problem. He is not winning the religious RIGHT. 75% of SC is evangelical and he lost every county. They do not like the lies either. His affiliation with BECK literally killed him and his campaign. However, IMO I still like CRUZ but he has to pick better friends than BECK but would still like to see a TRUMP / CRUZ ticket if possible. JMO :patriot:

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Re: Ted Cruz has two big problems
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2016, 02:13:17 pm »
Rubio will outspend him now that Bush is out.

And he will OUTSPEND him, by a lot.

If Cruz takes this to the end, and Trump wins the nomination, he's finished in presidential politics.

Going forward, Rubio has the full weight of the dreaded GOPe behind him.

It matters very little that Kasich is still in the race. He won't be for long.

Three tires of candidates - Trump, the wildcat, Cruz the hardcore conservative, Rubio/Bush/Kasich the "GOPe".

The vast majority of the Rubio/Bush/Kasich voters stay in their lane until Rubio is the last man standing.

The Carson vote may go to Cruz, but it won't be enough, then, even if they split between the last standing GOPe and Trump, the GOPe is the actual winner of the winnowing.
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Re: Ted Cruz has two big problems
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2016, 06:16:43 pm »
He will be blamed for losing the nomination Presidency for the GOP.

They already don't like him (understatement).

Thanx for the reply.

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Re: Ted Cruz has two big problems
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2016, 06:56:40 pm »
I'll admit - Cruz needs to broaden, especially now that he can't depend on evangelicals. He needs to go more populist in his articulation of conservative principles, and play Rubio and Trump off each other.

What the article is missing is that all the contests between Nevada and Little Tuesday on the 15th of March are proportional with slightly over 900 delegates awarded, over 1/3 the total. As we saw in Iowa, a few percentage points difference yields little difference in delegates.

Add to that, that most states in those contests have thresholds, which means Carson and Kasich are mostly irrelevant to affecting the delegate count. Net result is no clear winner in delegates unless something shifts dramatically.

Little Tuesday has some big winner-take-all states that might allow someone to break out a bit, but not enough to secure the nomination.

From there, most are winner-take-all, but very spread out. It would take someone winning all of them to secure the nomination, which means this contest has a big chance of going right up to convention.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2016, 06:57:37 pm by Free Vulcan »
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