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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/10/why-ted-cruz-is-still-in-very-very-good-shape-in-2-graphics/

Ted Cruz didn't do well in New Hampshire on Tuesday, finishing in third place behind Donald Trump and John Kasich. But it's hard to say he has lost any real momentum; New Hampshire just wasn't a good state for a candidate like him.

And moving forward, it's easy to see how the Granite State could one day look like a very minor bump along Cruz's path to the Republican presidential nomination.

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Cruz's win in the Iowa caucuses last week was, as it has been for every recent GOP Iowa winner, heavily reliant on evangelical Christians. He over-performed among this group, beating Trump 34-22 among them.

Two points here. The first is that, yes, Iowa is a very evangelical state, and not every state -- read: New Hampshire -- has the same makeup. In fact, New Hampshire is the least religious state in the country, according to Gallup, and PRRI reports only about 1 in 10 residents is an evangelical.

In this regard, though, the next few weeks of the GOP race look a whole lot more like Iowa than New Hampshire. And that is fantastic for Cruz.

Witness the below map.



It may not shock you to see the most heavily-white-evangelical states clustered in the South. Many of them are significantly more evangelical than Iowa, where 64 percent of the GOP electorate last week was evangelical.

And here is the second point: The most evangelical states are pretty heavily front-loaded in this process -- thanks in large part to the "SEC Primary" on March 1.

South Carolina on Feb. 20 and a whopping six of the 11 states holding contests on Super Tuesday/"SEC Primary" Day on the first of March have more evangelicals than Iowa does.

And here's where it gets even better for Cruz: Heavily Christian Kansas and Louisiana and heavily evangelical Kentucky vote just four days later on March 5, followed by heavily evangelical Mississippi on March 8 and heavily evangelical Missouri and North Carolina on March 15. In fact, if you exclude Maryland and West Virginia from the definition of "Southern," the Southern states will all have voted five weeks from now.

The below chart, from The Post's graphics team (more here!) is in order of nominating contests.

 

That could make for a very nice string of victories for Cruz. And if you're him, the above has to make you feel very good about your chances.

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I've noticed as well that of the next 19 contests, 14 are in the conservative south or west, 4 are in the north.

Cruz needs to as much as possible use SC and Nevada as his focus the next couple of weeks, in that priority, but do some swing to bolster the efforts of the advance team out there working Colorado, Kansas, and all the southern states coming up fast. He could sew up alot of delegates by mid-March.
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The south is one thing, but in the west (Nevada and Colorado) ideological conservatives will have a very hard time.
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The south is one thing, but in the west (Nevada and Colorado) ideological conservatives will have a very hard time.

This is why I think he needs to start expressing his conservative principles in populist terms, with some compatible libertarianism thrown in from time to time. Broaden his niche.
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This is why I think he needs to start expressing his conservative principles in populist terms, with some compatible libertarianism thrown in from time to time. Broaden his niche.

Even if Cruz could do that, he still won't have the reach of a Donald Trump, who has a broad coalition that crosses all demographic lines--not just the narrow appeal to conservatives and libertarians. The Trump coalition is a strong sign of a probable general election victory, in my opinion.

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Even if Cruz could do that, he still won't have the reach of a Donald Trump, who has a broad coalition that crosses all demographic lines--not just the narrow appeal to conservatives and libertarians. The Trump coalition is a strong sign of a probable general election victory, in my opinion.

Christian Right , yes, Others NO, Not at this point in time.
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Even if Cruz could do that, he still won't have the reach of a Donald Trump, who has a broad coalition that crosses all demographic lines--not just the narrow appeal to conservatives and libertarians. The Trump coalition is a strong sign of a probable general election victory, in my opinion.

Trump has a ceiling above which he cannot rise! Cruz doesn't!
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Trump has a ceiling above which he cannot rise! Cruz doesn't!

I don't know what that ceiling would be? A little less than half of eligible voters don't vote. You see a ceiling, I see the skies the limit.

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Trump has a ceiling above which he cannot rise! Cruz doesn't!

How does Cruz not have ceiling?

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How does Cruz not have ceiling?

Well I guess when  you come right down to it ALL candidates have ceilings. It just depends on how high or low that ceiling is.
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Well I guess when  you come right down to it ALL candidates have ceilings. It just depends on how high or low that ceiling is.

I think Cruz's ceiling ends with social/Evangelical Republicans.  That, in my opinion, is pretty darn low of a ceiling.

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I think Cruz's ceiling ends with social/Evangelical Republicans.  That, in my opinion, is pretty darn low of a ceiling.

You  are welcome to your opinion but i would strongly caution you against underestimating him.
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I think Cruz's ceiling ends with social/Evangelical Republicans.  That, in my opinion, is pretty darn low of a ceiling.

Exactly. Not only does Donald Trump bring over many conservatives (like myself), but he opens up the entire spectrum of middle and centerleft voters to the GOP.

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You  are welcome to your opinion but i would strongly caution you against underestimating him.

Ditto.  As I strongly caution you against overestimating him.   We cannot afford to lose this election.

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Exactly. Not only does Donald Trump bring over many conservatives (like myself), but he opens up the entire spectrum of middle and centerleft voters to the GOP.

We are going to find out who's right very soon aren't we?
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Exactly. Not only does Donald Trump bring over many conservatives (like myself), but he opens up the entire spectrum of middle and centerleft voters to the GOP.

But apparently all these voters are only necessary if we actually want to win a national election.   :shrug:

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...btw, on a platform/message of: immigration control, national security, and jobs. Add to that he's pro-2A, anti-gun free zones, pro-military and veterans issues...and we have a winning ticket in Donald Trump.
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Even if Cruz could do that, he still won't have the reach of a Donald Trump, who has a broad coalition that crosses all demographic lines--not just the narrow appeal to conservatives and libertarians. The Trump coalition is a strong sign of a probable general election victory, in my opinion.

Yep.  A candidate in a state tailor-made for him had 65% of Republican voters against him.

It's doubtful, IMO, that Rubio, Bush, Carson, or Kasich voters would go to Trump if those guys dropped out.

Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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...btw, on a platform/message of: immigration control, national security, and jobs. Add to that he's pro-2A, anti-gun free zones, pro-military and veterans issues...and we have a winning ticket in Donald Trump.

He's also for raising taxes, putting a single payer healthcare plan in place, cutting defense spending, and supporting Planned Parenthood.

Oh, "and I'll be different as a President."

Obviously, you don't believe him.  I do.
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He's also for raising taxes, putting a single payer healthcare plan in place, cutting defense spending, and supporting Planned Parenthood.

Oh, "and I'll be different as a President."

Obviously, you don't believe him.  I do.

He's for raising taxes? You know I have google, don't you?

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He's for raising taxes? You know I have google, don't you?

Yep. A 45% tariff on China is raising taxes on Chinese goods.
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Yep. A 45% tariff on China is raising taxes on Chinese goods.

Very few people understand that a tariff is nothing more than a direct tax on consumers Sink!

I applaud you for figuring that out.
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Yep. A 45% tariff on China is raising taxes on Chinese goods.
Have you seen our deficit? Or our whole debt, for that matter? If we're EVER going to pay that leviathan off to a manageable amount, there's going to HAVE to be taxes raised on someone or another.

The problem is, the Democratic/Socialists think they can just pile it on a minority of people (the "top 1%"), and the Trump True Believers think they can get another country to pay for it, just like they do now: it's just that the Red Chinese, like so many other foreign lenders, are going to keep score and WILL want their money back, some way or another.

No one's targeting the large portion of the public not paying into the system. No one dares. The Democrats vilified Romney for even mentioning it.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how conservatism ends up becoming marginalized: eventually, what is needed for the nation's survival can never earn the approval of the people who constantly seek more stuff from the trough.
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Have you seen our deficit? Or our whole debt, for that matter? If we're EVER going to pay that leviathan off to a manageable amount, there's going to HAVE to be taxes raised on someone or another.

The problem is, the Democratic/Socialists think they can just pile it on a minority of people (the "top 1%"), and the Trump True Believers think they can get another country to pay for it, just like they do now: it's just that the Red Chinese, like so many other foreign lenders, are going to keep score and WILL want their money back, some way or another.

No one's targeting the large portion of the public not paying into the system. No one dares. The Democrats vilified Romney for even mentioning it.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how conservatism ends up becoming marginalized: eventually, what is needed for the nation's survival can never earn the approval of the people who constantly seek more stuff from the trough.

From my friend John Gaver. Well worth your time to read.

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I don't know what that ceiling would be? A little less than half of eligible voters don't vote. You see a ceiling, I see the skies the limit.

His ceiling is anything above 36%. NH was a state that was so perfectly set up for Trump he should have gotten over 50% if he was all encompassing coalition builder. That didn't happen. Now he is going into SC after recently saying that he is for massive ethanol subsidies and fully socialized medicine. How's that play out getting even the base GOP voters to back him?

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His ceiling is anything above 36%. NH was a state that was so perfectly set up for Trump he should have gotten over 50% if he was all encompassing coalition builder. That didn't happen. Now he is going into SC after recently saying that he is for massive ethanol subsidies and fully socialized medicine. How's that play out getting even the base GOP voters to back him?

"Fully socialize medicine" Quit making that BS up. ANOTHER hater  that has to lie from the beginning to make their point. SAD! This is not a HILLARY forum!