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Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« on: January 31, 2016, 10:31:47 pm »
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He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned.

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy Sheriff – appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democrat Party.

Immigration isn’t a Republican problem – it isn’t a liberal problem – it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

The impending collapse of the economy isn’t a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

Trump uniquely understands that China’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn’t work you don’t continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn’t made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through a Carl’s Hamburgers.
I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

You may not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: 1) he is antithetical to the “good old boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians; 2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a`-vis donations; 3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology; and 4) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.

Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts that people don’t give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worst off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.

People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2016, 10:33:10 pm »
pragmatism

  : a reasonable and logical way of doing things or of thinking about problems that is based on dealing with specific situations instead of on ideas and theories

  : a practical approach to problems and affairs <tried to strike a balance between principles and pragmatism

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2016, 10:35:07 pm »
Actually, Opportunist may be a better label.

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2016, 10:41:47 pm »
Actually, Opportunist may be a better label.

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2016, 10:54:43 pm »
For me, I've gotten past the idea that conservatism can provide the answers for the state of the nation today. In order to give this ideology the opportunity to solve our problems it would have to be imposed by force by a minority on the majority.  Conservatism has never had the opportunity to provide solutions for two reasons, those elected on the platform are only very rarely truly committed to it and, at the end of the day, it is very much a minority ideology in America today.

So, for me, a pragmatist that identifies the same two or three existential issues I see works.  But what I am truly hoping for is a wrecking ball...one that will at least try to destroy the corrupt despotism that is America in 2016.
Well, George Lewis told the Englishman, the Italian and the Jew
You can't open your mind, boys, to every conceivable point of view

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2016, 10:58:17 pm »
Conservatism has never had the opportunity to provide solutions for two reasons, those elected on the platform are only very rarely truly committed to it and, at the end of the day, it is very much a minority ideology in America today.

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As demonstrated overwhelmingly in the last two POTUS elections, and the continual slide towards degeneracy completely absorbing the American Culture, reality confirms it.

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2016, 11:04:16 pm »
Excellent!

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2016, 11:08:22 pm »
I think this is where I differ most from the Trumpeteers.  Given a choice between an EFFECTIVE federal government and a SMALLER federal government, I choose smaller every time.  The only thing worse than tyranny is efficient tyranny.  Therefore, I would prefer a GOP nominee who espouses smaller, limited government over one who espouses "Making America Great Again."  A man elected under that slogan would have a mandate for a lot of new intrusions on our liberties.   

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2016, 11:47:16 pm »
I think this is where I differ most from the Trumpeteers.  Given a choice between an EFFECTIVE federal government and a SMALLER federal government, I choose smaller every time.  The only thing worse than tyranny is efficient tyranny.  Therefore, I would prefer a GOP nominee who espouses smaller, limited government over one who espouses "Making America Great Again."  A man elected under that slogan would have a mandate for a lot of new intrusions on our liberties.

Espousing and gettin'er done are two different things.

Trump shows us he gets things done. Just since he's entered the race he's virtually controlled the process.

I'll take someone who "does" over someone who "espouses," any day.

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2016, 11:56:00 pm »
Espousing and gettin'er done are two different things.

Trump shows us he gets things done. Just since he's entered the race he's virtually controlled the process.

I'll take someone who "does" over someone who "espouses," any day.

Yup, I have heard the GOP "espouse" smaller government for decades; it has done nothing but grow like gangbusters all throughout.

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2016, 12:10:44 am »
Actually, Opportunist may be a better label.

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Re: Trump Is Not Conservative, He’s A Pragmatist
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2016, 12:17:01 am »

Is Jeb a conservative? The guy spent nearly $70 million just to buy 4 percentage points in the polls.

Donald Trump spent probably half that amount and it's standing room only baby!