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Offline katzenjammer

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Donald Trump’s Fox Debate Boycott and The Ridiculous Fox News Response…

Many broadcast hours and column inches are sure to be used today and tomorrow regarding the decision by Donald Trump to skip the Fox News debate in Iowa.

Predicatively 90% of those reports will most likely circle around a Donald Trump -vs- Megyn Kelly narrative. Obviously that aspect will be the preferred hook used by Fox News to avoid sunlight; it is also profoundly wrong.


Candidate Jeb Bush attends Chamber of Commerce dinner
with Fox’s Rupert Murdoch and Valerie Jarrett (December 2014)

Megyn Kelly, and her sidekick Chris Stirewalt are the visible symptom, not the actual underlying issue. Their partnered ‘too-cute-by-half schtick‘ has been ongoing for several months, including the coordinated antics at the last debate, and in the weeks leading up to the last debate; but again, they are the symptom – not the real issue.

However, it’s also more than a little hypocritical for the same republican voices who were shouting at republican nominees in 2011/2012, for walking into traps with CNN’s Candy Crowley and ABC’s George Stephanopolous, to now be clutching their pearls when 2016 republican frontrunner Donald Trump recognizes the construct in Fox News and avoids it.

Chris Stirewalt is the advance guy, the Fox political debate contractor/producer who is in Iowa setting up the parameters.  He’s the scout organizing the Muslim activist to confront Donald Trump.  He’s the guy organizing the Mexican immigrant to question/antagonize the intended target, trump.  Stirewalt puts the agenda script together – Ms. Kelly, Mr. Wallace and Mr. Baier execute the production.


The problem is Stirewalt and Kelly are so full of themselves, they’ve become too transparent.   They were also transparent before the August 5th 2015 debate, but there wasn’t enough history to provide any context for Trump to avoid it.  He just dealt with it.

The “paint-Trump-a–sexist” scheme didn’t work, it actually backfired, and Fox found themselves facing a hostile reaction from their own viewership.

Unfortunately, when the globalist financial goals of the company owner are driving the decision-making, a strong back lash won’t stop the employees from setting up round #2.

Remember too, this Iowa/Fox debate was never on the original list, the damage was to have been done by the previous debates leading up to the Fox Business Network debate in North Charleston; held during national RNC Committee Convention.

There’s two story-lines to this overall “Get Trump” narrative. One is a corporate Fox media set-up (so ridiculously obvious the intended target saw it coming a mile away); the other is the reason for the Fox corporate need to get Trump out of the way.  The former deals with the petty instructions from Rupert Murdoch and his band of fools; the latter deals with Murdochs own political agendas: Open Borders/Amnesty and Asian Trade-Deals (TPP).

Julia Hahn does a great job outlining the Fox Amnesty Agenda -HERE.  We’ve also previously outlined the specifics of how they were going about it – HERE.

To make ideological matters worse, Fox News President Roger Ailes has been very sick, and not at the helm of Fox News for the past several months.  Instead, Mr. Wall Street, Rupert Murdoch, has been personally meeting with the program executives and formatting their objectives.

Fox News President Roger Ailes would never allow his team to send out a press release like this:

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    FOX NEWS:  “We learned from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly when they meet with him if he becomes president. A nefarious source tells us that Trump has his own secret plan to replace the Cabinet with his Twitter followers to see if he should even go to those meetings.”

Obviously, such non-professional snark was a gift to Donald Trump providing him just the excuse he needed to avoid the entire second debate set-up.   That over-the-top media release actually sounds like it was written by a zealous Murdoch acolyte (executive) vying for the job of Ailes as soon as he resigns his post.

As embarrassing as that release was, the ridiculous reasoning/justification provided by Fox AFTER Donald Trump pulled out is even worse.

Fox News, through this last release, attempt to make themselves the victim; and this media release reeks like the scribble of a college-aged social justice warrior, not a billion dollar network empire:

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    “As many of our viewers know, FOX News is hosting a sanctioned debate in Des Moines, Iowa on Thursday night, three days before the first votes of the 2016 election are cast in the Iowa Caucus,” Fox News said in the statement. “Donald Trump is refusing to debate seven of his fellow presidential candidates on stage that night, which is near unprecedented.

    We’re not sure how Iowans are going to feel about him walking away from them at the last minute, but it should be clear to the American public by now that this is rooted in one thing – Megyn Kelly, whom he has viciously attacked since August and has now spent four days demanding be removed from the debate stage.

    Capitulating to politicians’ ultimatums about a debate moderator violates all journalistic standards, as do threats, including the one leveled by Trump’s campaign manager Corey Lewandowski toward Megyn Kelly.

    In a call on Saturday with a Fox News executive, Lewandowski stated that Megyn had a ‘rough couple of days after that last debate’ and he ‘would hate to have her go through that again.’ Lewandowski was warned not to level any more threats, but he continued to do so.

    We can’t give in to terrorizations toward any of our employees. Trump is still welcome at Thursday night’s debate and will be treated fairly, just as he has been during his 132 appearances on FOX News & FOX Business, but he can’t dictate the moderators or the questions.”


“Terrorizations” oh my….

However, Donald Trump knows enough about Roger Ailes to know this is not a public release approved by a normally-minded Ailes.   No, this has the doofus Murdoch boys, his leftist children who are being groomed to take over, written all over it.  As such :

    Per Trump source: Trump's position now is he is chairman of his company and he will only deal with Murdoch at a chairman-to-chairman level

    — Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman)

January 27, 2016

But you can be absolutely guaranteed Rupert Murdoch does not want to be dragged into the sunlight of this battle with Donald Trump.

The Corporate/Wall Street Murdoch has way too much to lose.  If millions of viewers begin to see articles about Rupert’s corporate agendas’ toward amnesty, open borders and Trans-Pacific Trade – the Fox ruse would be exposed.


In addition the scars of the UK Daily Mirror scandal are not yet healed.

It will be interesting to see where this goes.

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FLASHBACK=> FOX News Debate Anchors Actively Planned Zingers – Prepared to Escort Trump From Stage

 Jim Hoft Jan 26th, 2016 7:34 pm


FOX News debate anchors knew they would have a record audience tune in to their Republican debate because of Donald Trump.

So, in November, they purposely planned several zingers to get under his skin.


Then they all congratulated themselves for their debate antics.
And they opened the floodgates of hell on the candidates for future debates by liberal anchors.

They are shameless.

The anchors didn’t even ask a question on the Obama economy, the worst recovery since the Great Depression, until 73 minutes into the debate.

The FOX moderators won over Media Matters, who said, “The Fox News moderators appeared reasonable, effective, and pointed in their questions to the candidates.”

They must be very proud.

They didn’t want to appear conservative – so they unloaded a barrage of personal attacks.

The FOX debate hosts even prepared to have Trump escorted from stage.

The LA Times reported:

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As they sorted and re-sorted questions, the unpredictability of real estate tycoon and reality-TV star Donald Trump was never far from their minds.

“I would say the level is about an eight on the concern meter because of the unknown,” Baier said.

Baier even had a “nuclear option” at the ready for Trump if he ignored all protocol.

The script — which Baier didn’t have to use — took a page from Trump’s “Celebrity Apprentice” TV show. It went like this: “Mr. Trump, in your business you have rules. You follow rules. We have rules on this stage. We don’t want to have to escort you to the elevator outside this boardroom.”

“We’re hoping we don’t have to use it,” Baier said later. “[But] we’re locked and loaded.”

For anyone embedded with the news team on debate day, it became clear that it wasn’t just the Republican hopefuls who would be on-stage this night — but also Fox News, widely seen as the network most friendly to conservatives. No one here wanted to appear as if they were pitching softballs.

“You can’t let them have that offramp” was Baier’s rule as they hone each line.

Indeed, when Kelly rehearsed a question for another candidate — delivered in the staccato style that adds to her reputation as a tenacious interrogator — a producer at the table said, “He’ll go berserk.” That’s a compliment for Kelly, who smiled.

For the individual anchors, the debate was also a chance to burnish their reputations. Kelly has emerged as the channel’s prime-time star. Wallace is a seasoned veteran of the Washington beat. Baier has perhaps the most to gain from the expanded national spotlight.

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AMAZING amount of information here Katz - thank you!  This just confirms what I've thought about FOX for a long time now.  Setting out to take a candidate down is not the job of a debate moderator, we've complained about that for years!

Trump knew a trap was being laid for him - after the first FOX debate didn't do the trick - they were going to pull out all the stops on this one.  If anyone is going to watch it, I would be interested if the Muslim woman they were going to use to waylay Trump will be putting the other candidates on the hot seat on that issue.

Particularly, I would like to know how the other candidates answer that - will they trip over themselves trying to be politically correct? 

I hope everyone takes the time to read these pieces here Katz - there's a lot of stuff that I didn't know about before. 

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We told you Trump would win - bigly!

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AMAZING amount of information here Katz - thank you!  This just confirms what I've thought about FOX for a long time now.  Setting out to take a candidate down is not the job of a debate moderator, we've complained about that for years!

Trump knew a trap was being laid for him - after the first FOX debate didn't do the trick - they were going to pull out all the stops on this one.  If anyone is going to watch it, I would be interested if the Muslim woman they were going to use to waylay Trump will be putting the other candidates on the hot seat on that issue.

Particularly, I would like to know how the other candidates answer that - will they trip over themselves trying to be politically correct? 

I hope everyone takes the time to read these pieces here Katz - there's a lot of stuff that I didn't know about before. 

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yes good info katz.  Yes they will be tripping over themselves.....on many issues to be PC. the question is how will Cruz answer?


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yes good info katz.  Yes they will be tripping over themselves.....on many issues to be PC. the question is how will Cruz answer?
If Cruz is the good guy that his supporters claim he is, then he would side with Trump and boycott the "debate" as well.

Ironically the Fox  Business debates have been excellent. Maybe they are designed as "cover" for the Megyn Kelly tactics.

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