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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2016, 06:29:41 am »
Just in:

"Announcing National Black Republican Association Endorses Donald J. Trump
 By Frances Rice

We, the grassroots activists of the National Black Republican Association, are pleased to announce our endorsement of Donald J. Trump for President of the United States of America.

As citizens who happen to be black, we support Mr. Trump because he shares our values. We, like Mr. Trump, are fiscally conservative, steadfastly pro-life and believers in a small government that fosters freedom for individuals and businesses, so they can grow and become prosperous.

We are deeply concerned about illegal immigration, a major cause of high black unemployment, especially among black youth.

Black Americans across America are beginning to wake up and see clearly the reality of what is happening in black neighborhoods. Democrats have run black communities for the past 60 years and the socialist policies of the Democrats have turned those communities into economic and social wastelands, witness Detroit, Baltimore and South Chicago.

We believe that Mr. Trump has demonstrated that he can push back against the mainstream media, end political correctness and free black communities from the destructive grip of socialist Democrats.

We urge our fellow black Americans to seize control over their own destiny and leverage their vote the way other groups do. It is way past time black Americans stop having their vote taken for granted by Democrats, hold politicians accountable for the content of their policies and not vote merely based on the label of their party"

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/breaking-national-black-republican-association-endorses-trump/
Members of the anti-Trump cabal: Now that Mr Trump has sewn up the nomination, I want you to know I feel your pain.

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2016, 08:25:36 am »
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2016, 08:48:41 am »



Tracy.....have you been checked for dyslexia, dear?     :laugh:

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2016, 11:16:44 am »
Just in:

"Announcing National Black Republican Association Endorses Donald J. Trump
 By Frances Rice

We, the grassroots activists of the National Black Republican Association, are pleased to announce our endorsement of Donald J. Trump for President of the United States of America.

As citizens who happen to be black, we support Mr. Trump because he shares our values. We, like Mr. Trump, are fiscally conservative, steadfastly pro-life and believers in a small government that fosters freedom for individuals and businesses, so they can grow and become prosperous.

We are deeply concerned about illegal immigration, a major cause of high black unemployment, especially among black youth.

Black Americans across America are beginning to wake up and see clearly the reality of what is happening in black neighborhoods. Democrats have run black communities for the past 60 years and the socialist policies of the Democrats have turned those communities into economic and social wastelands, witness Detroit, Baltimore and South Chicago.

We believe that Mr. Trump has demonstrated that he can push back against the mainstream media, end political correctness and free black communities from the destructive grip of socialist Democrats.

We urge our fellow black Americans to seize control over their own destiny and leverage their vote the way other groups do. It is way past time black Americans stop having their vote taken for granted by Democrats, hold politicians accountable for the content of their policies and not vote merely based on the label of their party"

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/breaking-national-black-republican-association-endorses-trump/

Some polls have been showing support for Donald Trump among a higher percentage of blacks (and legal Hispanics) than democrats and media would like the public to know.

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2016, 02:16:59 pm »
A Trump supporter replies to the National Review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ6XdwGt7Ls&feature=youtu.be

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2016, 02:42:12 pm »
A Trump supporter replies to the National Review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ6XdwGt7Ls&feature=youtu.be

Lady showed some real passion there.

A lot of people in the heartland, voters and nonvoters alike, are sending a message this time to the political class in the only way that's getting through to them. By showing up and supporting Donald Trump.

It's clear now that the insurgent message is recognized by the more astute of those pompous mouth-breathers who dare call themselves representatives of the people.

You could just feel it happening in congress and on K Street--and on the expanded editorial pages of National Review. They're all squirming in their seats.
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2016, 03:33:14 pm »
The GOP has destroyed conservatism and now these jokers at the National Review want to lecture me?  I couldn't despise these people more.


Have to remember" Conservative writers CAREER"S Matter"; Hands Up they got exposed? Main reason they cannot figure TRUMP out is because they view themselves the same way as the RINOGOPe does that they are elites and the world does not exist outside the DC beltway. Except for the peasants. Also, they mostly are done with a TRUMP Presidency and they know it. :beer:

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2016, 03:43:08 pm »
Here's the response from National Review during Kelley interview.  I think National Review is spot on.  They had the guts to stand up (popular or not) and said what needed to be said. 

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4717692456001/national-review-response-to-against-trump-is-incredible/?intcmp=hpvid1#sp=show-clips
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2016, 03:46:39 pm »
Here's Jonah Goldberg's take

Goldberg's right - the "establishment" that backs Trump is the pernicious establishment that Palin was supposedly against all those years.   But"establishment" is a trash term,  meaning nothing.  NR's trashed as the establishment that opposes Trump, and I say more power to 'em,    Back Trump and it'll cost you your soul.   
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2016, 04:16:25 pm »

But, 'conservative' is also is a chameleon word. Means different things to different people within the Republican framework (and even within small 'l" libertarians).

This election, people are in a panic. They're afraid after seven years of being ignored and watching their country being buried by debt and regulations, and by administration edicts, without nary a Republican response. And they're looking for a bulldozer, not another doctrinaire fancy pants politispeak policy wonk. A bulldozer.

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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2016, 04:27:54 pm »
No we don't need a bulldozer.  A bulldozer would be stupid.   You don't level your damn house with a bulldozer, you fix it.   

We need someone who will be effective.  And principled.   And not an amoral wiseguy.       

 
« Last Edit: January 23, 2016, 04:29:07 pm by Jazzhead »
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2016, 04:41:17 pm »

Well, it seems to me the problem from your perspective and from the perspective of many Trump detractors is, Trump is a very effective campaigner and has been in the lead seven and a half months. Barring some cataclysmic political event, it appears Trump will be the nominee.

So, tell me, Jazz, who's gonna stop him? Seems to me that being right, and being very passionate about being right, is not enough to stop Donald Trump. You need a pair of boots on the ground to knock the amoral wise guy off his lead. Got any suggestions? Cruz, Carson, Rubio?

Jeb exclamation point Bush?

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2016, 04:43:30 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/22/letter-heartbroken-national-review-publisher-addresses-cancel-my-subscription-demands-over-against-trump/

by Breitbart News22 Jan 20169,037
Last night, National Review published articles from twenty conservative intellectuals “Against Trump.” This afternoon, publisher Jack Fowler sent this letter to friends of the magazine:

    Dear Friend,

    Today is a big day for National Review. Our editors have made a very forceful defense of conservatism, of principle, and against the politics of attitude, in our editorial, Against Trump.

    We have received angry calls, and cancel ­my­ subscription demands. One in particular broke my heart. Well, let’s hope time heals.

    None of this was unexpected.

    But: We have also received very strong expressions of support from many NR friends. People who believe ­­ and they are right to believe this ­­ that the main reason National Review exists is to do the very thing it is doing today.

    Defending conservative principle. Defending it from being marginalized, or recast as emotion and bluster instead of as an expression of reason and intelligence.

    On behalf of Rich Lowry and my colleagues, thank you for standing with us. Or, better, thanks for letting us stand alongside you as we embrace the Buckley mission: To stand athwart history, yelling stop.

    Best,

    Jack Fowler

    Publisher

    National Review
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2016, 04:49:27 pm »
Well, it seems to me the problem from your perspective and from the perspective of many Trump detractors is, Trump is a very effective campaigner and has been in the lead seven and a half months. Barring some cataclysmic political event, it appears Trump will be the nominee.

So, tell me, Jazz, who's gonna stop him? Seems to me that being right, and being very passionate about being right, is not enough to stop Donald Trump. You need a pair of boots on the ground to knock the amoral wise guy off his lead. Got any suggestions? Cruz, Carson, Rubio?

Jeb exclamation point Bush?

It's not a matter that Trump is a good campaigner; it is a matter, like Obama, he is duping the American people that support him.  He is no more a conservative than Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton.  There will be NO hope for CHANGE and things will remain status quo.  Making America Great Again by keeping things status quo???  Time to wake up!
Romans 12:16-21

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2016, 04:50:25 pm »
No we don't need a bulldozer.  A bulldozer would be stupid.   You don't level your damn house with a bulldozer, you fix it.   

We need someone who will be effective.  And principled.   And not an amoral wiseguy.     

I for once agree with you!   :beer:
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2016, 04:51:23 pm »
Well, it seems to me the problem from your perspective and from the perspective of many Trump detractors is, Trump is a very effective campaigner and has been in the lead seven and a half months. Barring some cataclysmic political event, it appears Trump will be the nominee.

So, tell me, Jazz, who's gonna stop him? Seems to me that being right, and being very passionate about being right, is not enough to stop Donald Trump. You need a pair of boots on the ground to knock the amoral wise guy off his lead. Got any suggestions? Cruz, Carson, Rubio?

Jeb exclamation point Bush?

Kasich/Rubio?

One of my dumbass pet ideas I've thought about over the years is a team-up.  Have two candidates announce a formal coalition,  in advance of the primary process.   The GOP is now composed of three factions,  one of which is woefully disunited.    The Trump faction, the Cruz faction, and everyone else who knows damn well that neither Trump nor Cruz can win in the general election.

  Problem is,  that third faction is dispersed among Rubio,  Christie,  Kasich and Bush.   Gotta winnow that down, and maybe the two strongest could run as a team, with the explicit goal of presenting a responsible, effective, inclusive conservative alternative.

Go ahead, skewer me for that one.    :seeya:   
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2016, 04:57:24 pm »
"Well, it seems to me the problem from your perspective and from the perspective of many Trump detractors is, Trump is a very effective campaigner and has been in the lead seven and a half months. Barring some cataclysmic political event, it appears Trump will be the nominee."

The 'cataclysmic' political event that could very possibly and likely stop Trump is Bernie/Warren.
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2016, 04:57:45 pm »
I for once agree with you!   :beer:

Sorry to hear it's just once.  Lately I've been finding myself agreeing with you a whole lot.   :beer: :beer:
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2016, 05:25:45 pm »
Ok, I'm quoting an article from NewsMax.   Once you get past that, there's  some good stuff in it.

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National Review's scathing indictment of Donald Trump will do very little to dissuade most Republicans from supporting him for the GOP presidential nomination, conservative pundit and acclaimed documentary filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza tells Newsmax TV.

"I don't think this is going to dent Trump's real support," D'Souza said Friday on "The Steve Malzberg Show."

"What it will do probably is ostracize Trump a little bit more within the intellectual ranks of the Republican Party, but those intellectual ranks are a small part of the overall strength of the party."

D'Souza also suggested that National Review — founded in 1955 by William F. Buckley and an influential voice for conservative news and commentary — should be going after the Republican elite instead of Trump, who remains the GOP presidential front-runner.

"We have a mystery, which is here you have a Republican Party and by and large its activists are conservative. How is it possible that a man who betrays the fundamental principles of conservatism is leading in the polls?" D'Souza said.

"Ultimately the problem would not seem to be with Trump, it would seem to be with the Republicans who support Trump. So National Review in a sense is being a little weak in not attacking them because they'd be attacking their own constituency, their own readers."

D'Souza said there are three reasons for Trump's broad-based appeal...

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/dinesh-dsouza-donald-trump-national-review-article/2016/01/22/id/710501/

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2016, 05:27:02 pm »
It's not a matter that Trump is a good campaigner; it is a matter, like Obama, he is duping the American people that support him.  He is no more a conservative than Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton.  There will be NO hope for CHANGE and things will remain status quo.  Making America Great Again by keeping things status quo???  Time to wake up!

This isn't about "Conservative" versus "Progressive".  That flipping train pulled out of the station 7-8- years ago.

This is about "Founding Fathers' USA", versus "Socialist-Totalitarian Domestic Enemy -controlled USA"

We're in the middle of an effing coup, and we've got members here worried about a GOP candidate's conservative pedigree???

WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!!

The ONLY candidate on the scene today who can pull sufficient votes of freedom-loving Americans from the Democratis DARK SIDE....is Donald Trump.

I would love a 'President Theodore Cruz'.   But first...to prime the economic pump and get America's heart beating again...we need Donald Trump.
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2016, 05:27:22 pm »
Last night, National Review published a special edition of its magazine, devoted to attacking Donald Trump.

Less than 12 hours later, NR publisher Jack Fowler sent the below letter to "friends of the magazine."

This is a very unusual letter. It suggests to me that cancellations to the magazine must be pouring in because of the Trump attack edition.

There is a big difference between neocons, old right anti-interventionist conservatives and grassroots followers.

The old right anti-interventionist conservatives cancelled subscriptions to NR decades ago. The grassroots followers, who never understood the split, despite its significance, are likely leading the cancellation onslaught. They lean conservative but don't get all the factions and nuances. It would be easy for them to become Trump supporters. The special edition just showed them that they are different from the neocons running the show at NR.

The neocons running NR are probably realizing that they just blew up a significant amount of their subscription base--which they are now realizing weren't neocons.

This is probably the best thing that has occurred to date because of the Trump campaign. NR is taking on water. It is exposing the fact that the number of true neocons is minuscule.

    Dear Friend,

    Today is a big day for National Review. Our editors have made a very forceful defense of conservatism, of principle, and against the politics of attitude, in our editorial, Against Trump.

    We have received angry calls, and cancel ­my­ subscription demands. One in particular broke my heart. Well, let’s hope time heals.

    None of this was unexpected.

    But: We have also received very strong expressions of support from many NR friends. People who believe ­­ and they are right to believe this ­­ that the main reason National Review exists is to do the very thing it is doing today.

    Defending conservative principle. Defending it from being marginalized, or recast as emotion and bluster instead of as an expression of reason and intelligence.

    On behalf of Rich Lowry and my colleagues, thank you for standing with us. Or, better, thanks for letting us stand alongside you as we embrace the Buckley mission: To stand athwart history, yelling stop.

    Best,
    Jack Fowler
    Publisher
    National Review

http://www.targetliberty.com/2016/01/wow-national-review-has-sent-out-letter.html

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2016, 05:29:08 pm »

Definition of neoconservative

        :  a former liberal espousing political conservatism

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2016, 05:34:53 pm »
"This is about "Founding Fathers' USA", versus "Socialist-Totalitarian Domestic Enemy -controlled USA" "We're in the middle of an effing coup".

 :amen:  The only thing we don't agree on is what side Trump is on. 
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2016, 05:38:02 pm »
Hate to break the news to you, but NR just went under ..

WOW National Review Has Sent Out a Letter About Cancellations in the Wake of the Trump Attack Edition

Timing is everything ..
« Last Edit: January 23, 2016, 05:47:13 pm by HAPPY2BME »

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2016, 05:42:02 pm »
This isn't about "Conservative" versus "Progressive".  That flipping train pulled out of the station 7-8- years ago.

This is about "Founding Fathers' USA", versus "Socialist-Totalitarian Domestic Enemy -controlled USA"

We're in the middle of an effing coup, and we've got members here worried about a GOP candidate's conservative pedigree???

WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!!

The ONLY candidate on the scene today who can pull sufficient votes of freedom-loving Americans from the Democratis DARK SIDE....is Donald Trump.

I would love a 'President Theodore Cruz'.   But first...to prime the economic pump and get America's heart beating again...we need Donald Trump. 


:thumbsup2:     Well, well said!  I love how you break through the noise!   :beer:
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