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What Happened Off Farsi Island?
« on: January 19, 2016, 07:23:32 am »
A provocative article in "American Spectator" by Jed Babbin. "Babbin served as a Deputy Undersecretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush. He is the author of several bestselling books including Inside the Asylum and In the Words of Our Enemies. He is coauthor (with Herbert London) of the new book The BDS War Against Israel."

The first part is a recounting of the events which I shall skip as well known and go straight to the questions Mr Babbin poses.

"Question 1: We know that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps has a naval base on Farsi Island. From there, they have based “swarm” attacks — made by bunches of small armed boats — against other nations’ ships from time to time. From what we know so far, it appears that the refueling for the two riverine boats was planned to be near Farsi Island. Given wind, currents and the possibility of human error, what idiot decided to refuel the boats so near an IRGC naval base?

Question 2: What orders and rules of engagement told the sailors what they had to do if they encountered Iranian forces? The military code of conduct requires commanders not to surrender while anyone is capable of fighting. Through Iran has been at war with us since 1979, we’re not at war with them. The president gives every indication that he regards the Iranians as friends. Did the ROE require the sailors to not fire until fired upon? Just what did they say?

Question 3: Did the boat having engine trouble report that fact to higher command? If it did, was its location, and that of the second boat, tracked by satellite or otherwise? If not, why not? If the boats were tracked, were there any forces available by air or sea to rescue them from Iranian forces?

Question 4: What force confronted the two boats on Tuesday and took them prisoner? I’m not, on the basis of what we know, going to say that the ten sailors had to fight and lose their lives in a futile battle. Running was probably not possible given the disability of one boat’s engines, but surrender can’t be the first option. Nartker or one of the other sailors must have radioed for help when the Iranians approached. What was the response? Was there a Benghazi-like “stand down” order from higher ups? Just how far up the chain of command were people aware of the boats’ predicament and what did they do?

Question 5: What training in the Code of Conduct did the sailors receive? Nartker is reportedly a 2011 graduate of the Naval Academy and had to know his duties under the Code. He likely was in command of the two boats. At this point, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on the surrender, because he may have confronted an overwhelming force. But he must have known that making his apology to the video would lend aid and comfort to the enemy that captured his command. His conduct should be investigated and he may have to be court-martialed."

In addition:

"The most important problem that this incident illustrates is the command environment established by Obama, Ashton Carter, his secretary of defense, and Ray Mabus, his navy secretary. To them, the military code of conduct is an after-thought. Social engineering is vastly more important as is the effort to make the navy “green.”

Please remember that Carter has ordered women to be included in every military occupation, including special forces with, in his words, no exceptions. Mabus will be remembered for two things. First, enforcing the Obama/Carter edict on women to the degree that the Marine Corps, despite its objections, must not only include women in infantry but also eliminate the word “man” from all “MOS’s,” military occupational specialties. Second, for buying “biofuels” for the navy at roughly ten times the price of regular diesel fuel. He may be the worst SECNAV ever.

In that confused environment, when Iran is characterized as a friend rather than an enemy, it’s understandable — but not forgivable — for someone like Lt. Nartker to misunderstand his duties. Again, I’m not going to condemn him for surrendering if he was unable to resist. But how are we training our sailors and officers at this point?

Only a real and public investigation will reveal that answer. And I’ll bet no such investigation will be done."

http://spectator.org/articles/65212/what-happened-farsi-island
 
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Re: What Happened Off Farsi Island?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2016, 10:40:52 am »
Still a mystery: How sailors ended up in Iranian custody
Navy investigating how 2 boats were found so far off course
Published: 7 hours ago

 

WASHINGTON – A week after Iran detained 10 U.S. sailors, the U.S. Navy is still investigating why the two crews entered Iranian territorial waters, according to a U.S. Naval Central Command statement to Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.

The Riverine Command Boat crews were relocating their vessels from Kuwait to Bahrain, with a planned refueling en route alongside the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Monomoy.

The planned path of the RCBs, which train and deploy in pairs, was the middle of the Persian Gulf, to avoid Iranian territorial waters. They were authorized to traverse the territorial waters of Kuwait and Bahrain.

“NAVCENT’s (U.S. Naval Forces Central Command) initial operational reports showed that while in transit from Kuwait to Bahrain the RCBs deviated from their planned course on their way to the refueling,” NAVCENT said. “The command investigation will determine what caused the change in course and why the RCBs entered into Iranian territorial waters in the vicinity of Farsi Island.”

Farsi Island belongs to Iran and is a strategic naval site for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.

Get the rest of this report, and others, at Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.

NAVCENT said one of the RCBs had a “mechanical issue” in a diesel engine that caused the crews to stop and begin troubleshooting.

NAVCENT said, however, that the stoppage was in Iranian waters.

“It’s not clear the crew was aware of their exact location,” NAVCENT said.

The RCBs were to refuel with the USCGC Monomoy in international waters at a predetermined time, but 10 minutes after they were scheduled for the refueling, NAVCENT received a report that the RCBs had been detained by the Iranians.

NAVCENT sought to communicate with the RCBs, but there was no response, prompting an immediate search-and-rescue operation using air and naval assets from the USS Harry S. Truman, the U.S. Air Force and U.S. Coast Guard. British and French naval assets also joined in the search.

The Truman carrier strike group at that point was 45 miles southeast of Farsi Island, where the 10 US. sailors were taken at gunpoint by Iranian sailors.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/still-a-mystery-how-sailors-ended-up-in-iranian-custody/#JfP4t4pqlHMPoDi6.99