Coulter: Cruz is not a natural born citizen

[WingNot]

Some threads were meant to die and stay buried.  Then there a some like this thread ....
A total Cluster F*ck and Fubar.

[txradioguy]

Some threads were meant to die and stay buried.  Then there a some like this thread ....
A total Cluster F*ck and Fubar.

 

[DiogenesLamp]

The courts no longer follow our constitution. Abortion, same sex marriage, property forfeitures, warrantless
searches, etc. In practical terms yes Cruz can probably run. But those of us that still believe in our
Constitution will never vote for another Obama. (Not an NBC).

I would vote for Cruz.   I figure they get a freebie,  so we get a freebie too. 





:) 


I always envisioned there would be a heavy eligibility fight though.   

[DiogenesLamp]

By your twisted interpretation...Trump shouldn't be President.

I'm not even going to ask from what fringe of lunacy you acquired that theory. 

[jpsb]

@jpsb
At the time of his birth the Panama Canal Zone was a UN-incorporated US territory.   Which means it was not subject to the US constitution.  Otherwise every person born in the zone would have been a US citizen.

No he is a citizen because his father was a citizen and was in the military assigned to the canal zone.

McCain was a citizen because of his father not an NBC, he is a NBC because  the
US Senate passed a non-binding resolution that McCain was a "natural born Citizen"
of the United States. Which ended the debate over NBC for McCain. Maybe the
Senate will do the same for Cruz? What are the chances?

I can't find the documentation now, but there was a period of time when the Panama
Canal zone was considered an incorporated US territory. McCain was born during this
period.

[jpsb]

I would vote for Cruz.   I figure they get a freebie,  so we get a freebie too. 

If he were running against a Hillary I'd vote for him too. A Hillary must never be allowed
to be CIC.

[Taxcontrol]

What part of the US Constitution is that in?    Because if it is in anything subsequent to the US Constitution,  it cannot override the meaning and intent of what the Constitution itself says.   

The meaning of the US constitution can only be changed through amendment.   Acts of congress can't do it.

Enacted pursuant to Article 1 Section 8 and Article V

[DiogenesLamp]

If he were running against a Hillary I'd vote for him too. A Hillary must never be allowed
to be CIC.

I think I would have voted for Bernie Sanders if it was a choice between him and Hillary.   Bernie is an idiot.  Hillary is an evil, psychotic idiot. 

[DiogenesLamp]

Enacted pursuant to Article 1 Section 8 and Article V

You cannot back door constitutional amendments through acts of congress. 

[Taxcontrol]

You cannot back door constitutional amendments through acts of congress.

A literal reading of your above sentence is in direct contradiction to Article V

Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution........

The Constitution, via Article V, says specifically that acts of congress when passed by 2/3rds of both houses and ratified by the legislatures of 3/4ths of the states "shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the constitution."

So constitutional amendments via acts of Congress is one of the methods specifically enumerated as a means of modifying the Constitution and is directly contradictory to your assertion.  This was the case of the 14th Amendment and is why USC title 8 section 1401 subsection (a) exists.

[jpsb]

A literal reading of your above sentence is in direct contradiction to Article V

Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution........

The Constitution, via Article V, says specifically that acts of congress when passed by 2/3rds of both houses and ratified by the legislatures of 3/4ths of the states "shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the constitution."

So constitutional amendments via acts of Congress is one of the methods specifically enumerated as a means of modifying the Constitution and is directly contradictory to your assertion.  This was the case of the 14th Amendment and is why USC title 8 section 1401 subsection (a) exists.

I hate it when liberals change the definition of something so that they can get their way.

From Wiki:
An Act of Congress is a statute enacted by the United States Congress. It can either be
a Public Law, relating to the general public, or a Private Law, relating to specific institutions
or individuals.

And act of Congress requires and simple majority in both houses. Not a 2/3 super majority and
then the approval of 3/4 of the states. Claiming the amendment process is an Act of Congress
is flat out lying. It's not.

[WingNot]

@txradioguy

And yet...it continues!   Go figure.

[libertybele]

     ... and the thread that just won't quit continues to go absolutely nowhere....

[DiogenesLamp]

So constitutional amendments via acts of Congress is one of the methods specifically enumerated as a means of modifying the Constitution and is directly contradictory to your assertion.  This was the case of the 14th Amendment and is why USC title 8 section 1401 subsection (a) exists.

The 14th amendment WAS a constitutional amendment. 

[DiogenesLamp]

    ... and the thread that just won't quit continues to go absolutely nowhere....

You can lead horses to water,  but you can't make them drink it.   

[musiclady]

    ... and the thread that just won't quit continues to go absolutely nowhere....

I wish there were some way to say "NO MORE" to threads I have posted on.

This dingbat thread keeps coming up in my feed and I want it to DIE!!


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