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FBI has 18-minute gap in San Bernardino shooters' timeline
« on: January 05, 2016, 11:12:25 pm »
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/264830-fbi-searching-for-missing-18-minutes-about-san-bernardino-shooters

 By Julian Hattem - 01/05/16 04:24 PM EST

The FBI has an 18-minute gap in the timeline of the two people who gunned down 14 victims in San Bernardino, Calif., last month, which could shed new light on the killers’ actions.

At a news conference on Tuesday, the assistant director of the FBI's Los Angeles field office said that the missing period comes after the deadly massacre, when killers Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik were driving through the city.

“That 18 minutes is critical,” David Bowdich said.

“It’s important because we want to ensure whether or not they stopped at other locations, any residences, any businesses that we don’t already know about,” he said. “We want to ensure that if they made contact with anyone that we don’t already know about between those hours, or between that time, that we’re able to fully investigate those matters.”

Aside from the missing minutes, the FBI has been able to compile a relatively detailed timeline of Farook and Malik’s movements, Bowdich said, based on a combination of traffic cameras, surveillance videos and witness accounts.

After carrying out the deadly attack around 11 a.m. on Dec. 3, the two did a “lot of zigzagging around” the streets, Bowdich explained, going “back and forth on the highway, going up, going down.”

“There is no rhyme or reason to it that we can find yet.”

At two points in the drive, they briefly stopped at a parking lot and small lake.

But from 12:59 p.m. to 1:17 p.m., the killers’ vehicle drops off the map completely, raising the possibility that they stopped at a hiding spot or met with an unknown accomplice.   

“It’s possible that they stopped at — whether it be a storage area, a residence, a business, it’s possible there was a contact made. We just don’t know,” Bowdich said.

“It very well may not be an important gap but until we close that gap we just don’t know for sure.”

Around 3 p.m., law enforcement officials spotted the killers’ vehicle and eventually killed the two in a shootout.

The December killing, which officials believe was inspired by the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), was the deadliest act of terror on U.S. soil since Sept. 11, 2001. The assault captured national attention and prompted new focus in Washington on gun control, additional visa requirements and other efforts to block extremists from entering the country.

Farook and Malik were not directly under orders from ISIS, officials maintain, but instead appear to have been adherents of a similar brand of extremist ideology.

“As of today, we do not see any indications of a foreign-directed terrorist attack,” Bowdich reiterated on Tuesday.

Two weeks after the killing, the federal government filed charges against Enrique Marquez, Farook’s former neighbor, with whom he had alleged planned a separate terrorist attack on a local college and busy highway in 2012.  Those alleged plots were eventually scuttled before they could be carried out, the Justice Department claimed.
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Re: FBI has 18-minute gap in San Bernardino shooters' timeline
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2016, 11:30:59 pm »
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Re: FBI has 18-minute gap in San Bernardino shooters' timeline
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2016, 11:46:51 pm »
Well it's a good thing that the entire apartment they holed up in was allowed to be contaminated by the FBI closing their investigation of it as a crime scene within 48 hours of the murders.
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Re: FBI has 18-minute gap in San Bernardino shooters' timeline
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 12:08:52 am »
Well, as part of Obama's 'fundamental transformation' of America, he certainly has thoroughly corrupted the American system of justice on every level, SCOTUS, the DOJ, the FBI, the IRS, even down to local law enforcement. They are no longer involved in 'legalities'. They are now just agents of Obama, and do what they are told to do by the State.

It is clear that they were never seriously interested in investigating this shooting. The people involved were the wrong color, which of course means they were not White.

But, like Ft. Hood, no matter how much they claim that this was "not terrorism", the American people are not stupid. Most Americans know exactly what happened and what this was, regardless of any ridiculous memo from Obama.

They can keep trying to convince us that this shooting was actually done by the Easter Bunny all they want, but we all know that it was done by foreign Muslims on a jihad. They cannot change the reality of what happened as much as they try.
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Re: FBI has 18-minute gap in San Bernardino shooters' timeline
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 12:12:51 am »
Well it's a good thing that the entire apartment they holed up in was allowed to be contaminated by the FBI closing their investigation of it as a crime scene within 48 hours of the murders.
Yes, that - and letting reporters paw through the killers' belongings - really helped matters, didn't it?    :thud:
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Re: FBI has 18-minute gap in San Bernardino shooters' timeline
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2016, 12:14:23 am »
Well, as part of Obama's 'fundamental transformation' of America, he certainly has thoroughly corrupted the American system of justice on every level, SCOTUS, the DOJ, the FBI, the IRS, even down to local law enforcement. They are no longer involved in 'legalities'. They are now just agents of Obama, and do what they are told to do by the State.

It is clear that they were never seriously interested in investigating this shooting. The people involved were the wrong color, which of course means they were not White.

But, like Ft. Hood, no matter how much they claim that this was "not terrorism", the American people are not stupid. Most Americans know exactly what happened and what this was, regardless of any ridiculous memo from Obama.

They can keep trying to convince us that this shooting was actually done by the Easter Bunny all they want, but we all know that it was done by foreign Muslims on a jihad. They cannot change the reality of what happened as much as they try.

One of the issues I have is that it appears Obama both micromanages things like San Bernardino from Washington - and he directly injects his politics into the actions and responses of law enforcement.  It appears that the Feds take over from local law enforcement very quickly and almost immediately Obama's politics get injected into the response and investigation.  This is NOT how it is supposed to be...but it is another part of leftists making their own reality, rather than determining what reality is and reacting to what the facts are shown to be.  I guess they consider that reactionary - but it is more truthful and more effective over the long term than attempting to craft your reality - as they are with climate change - in order to pursue your agenda.
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Re: FBI has 18-minute gap in San Bernardino shooters' timeline
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2016, 12:25:27 am »
One of the issues I have is that it appears Obama both micromanages things like San Bernardino from Washington - and he directly injects his politics into the actions and responses of law enforcement.  It appears that the Feds take over from local law enforcement very quickly and almost immediately Obama's politics get injected into the response and investigation.  This is NOT how it is supposed to be...but it is another part of leftists making their own reality, rather than determining what reality is and reacting to what the facts are shown to be.  I guess they consider that reactionary - but it is more truthful and more effective over the long term than attempting to craft your reality - as they are with climate change - in order to pursue your agenda.

This administration has turned the Department of Justice into a clone of your local Chinese take out restaurant.  Obama calls and orders it up and they deliver!
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Re: FBI has 18-minute gap in San Bernardino shooters' timeline
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2016, 12:32:49 am »
One of the issues I have is that it appears Obama both micromanages things like San Bernardino from Washington - and he directly injects his politics into the actions and responses of law enforcement.  It appears that the Feds take over from local law enforcement very quickly and almost immediately Obama's politics get injected into the response and investigation.  This is NOT how it is supposed to be...but it is another part of leftists making their own reality, rather than determining what reality is and reacting to what the facts are shown to be.  I guess they consider that reactionary - but it is more truthful and more effective over the long term than attempting to craft your reality - as they are with climate change - in order to pursue your agenda.

Yes. Obama micromanages 'crime' to suit his own make-believe view of the world, i.e., White people are terrorists and Muslims, Blacks, and Latinos, are the victims. But it goes deeper than that. He also manipulates, ignores, and changes national security and intelligence reports to match his world view, which is, of course, extremely dangerous.

It is the same idea of Obama being unable to accept any criticism at all about anything at all. He has such a deeply ingrained and rigid view of the world, combined with a monumental ego, that he considers any deviation of the way he thinks things should be, to be criticism of him personally.

He is never wrong. And when he is wrong, it is never his fault. It always means that someone misunderstood him, or someone did something incorrectly. And, like a child, it makes him furious.

And so, like the olden Kings in the middle-ages, his staff actually change and 'correct' actual facts so as not to offend the King.

Obama has some very deep and serious mental issues, but they would mean nothing if the media, Congress, and his staff did not enable his deeply distorted view of the world.
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Re: FBI has 18-minute gap in San Bernardino shooters' timeline
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2016, 02:50:38 am »
Nothing to see here, folks.  Let's move on.  Did you see OPapaDoc cry today?  Now that was something, wasn't it?

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Re: FBI has 18-minute gap in San Bernardino shooters' timeline
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2016, 02:55:15 am »
Nothing to see here, folks.  Let's move on.  Did you see OPapaDoc cry today?  Now that was something, wasn't it?

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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2016, 04:24:57 am »
Bill Clinton is to Bill Cosby as Barak Obama is to John Boehner.

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