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The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« on: December 22, 2015, 09:10:03 pm »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2015/12/22/obama-faith/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b

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President Obama was flying over Los Angeles in June as he listened to the first accounts from a courtroom in Charleston, S.C., where family members of nine dead parishioners who were gunned down at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church had just addressed the accused killer.

He heard the words of a daughter who had lost her mother: “May God forgive you. I forgive you.”

He listened to the plea of a mother who had lost her son: “Every fiber in my body hurts . . . but may God have mercy on you.”

Above: President Obama attends a memorial service on Dec. 16, 2012, at Newtown High School in Newtown, Conn., for victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. Obama arrived in Newtown two days after the tragedy and as authorities were still trying to piece together a motive for the second-deadliest mass shooting in the United States. (Olivier Douliery via Bloomberg News)

The president paused, the thump of the helicopter’s blades filling the otherwise silent cabin. He had planned to tweet some statistics later that day comparing gun violence in the United States and other developed countries, but now he told his staff to cancel that.

Instead, in the Oval Office two days later, he seized upon something that seemed more important to him than any argument about gun control — an idea central to his political identity and his conviction that he could unify the divided nation.

“The essence of what is right about Christianity is embedded here,” he said of the families, according to notes taken during the meeting.

As Obama saw it, the parishioners and their families met the most demanding teachings of Christ. “They welcomed the stranger,” he said in the Oval Office meeting. “They forgave the worst violence.”

These were Obama’s thoughts as he prepared to deliver the eulogy for the Rev. Clementa Pinckney. He wanted to use the moment to talk about the example that the pastor, who was killed in the attack, his parishioners and their families had set for a country that had grown so suspicious and gridlocked over the course of his presidency.


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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2015, 09:12:47 pm »
Give me a break.
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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2015, 09:16:50 pm »
Give me a break.
Yeah I didn't know whether to cry or laugh myself silly on this one. He only believes in himself before any God.


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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2015, 09:21:25 pm »
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My Christian faith prevents me from speaking out. However, I will confess to my priest at Christmas Eve service, my having less than gracious thoughts about Obama.

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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2015, 09:21:33 pm »
Obama's Christian faith has not been not "quiet".

It has been inaudible.
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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2015, 09:29:20 pm »
Yeah I didn't know whether to cry or laugh myself silly on this one. He only believes in himself before any God.

I'm sorry but these are not the remarks of a Christian. he maybe religious, he is not a Christian.

Here is an excerpt of Obama's remarks from the 2001 Il Senate floor debate:

    “Number one, whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we’re really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a child, a nine-month-old child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute.”

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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2015, 10:10:42 pm »
I'm sorry but these are not the remarks of a Christian. he maybe religious, he is not a Christian.

Here is an excerpt of Obama's remarks from the 2001 Il Senate floor debate:

    “Number one, whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we’re really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a child, a nine-month-old child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute.”


I re-type my wording. He only believes in himself.


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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2015, 10:13:54 pm »
Man, the Washington Post has just become worthless.
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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2015, 10:15:12 pm »
He stopped going to church right after he was elected in 08. He had to toss Rev Wright under the bus. He attempted to show us photo ops of his family going to church. I haven't even seen them do that in years. The church was a way to get his street creds. 

A political use. nothing else. 


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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2015, 10:37:18 pm »
His name

Barack -- Blessed in Arabic
Hussein -- was a relative of th Prophet Muhammad
Obama -- is a designation of a Muslim tribe in Kenya

If Obama is Christian, as he 'kind of' claims to be, then he is the first "Christian" ever in history with the name Hussein.

A Christian named Hussein would be killed immediately as an insult to Islam, anywhere in the M.E.
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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2015, 11:51:19 pm »

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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2015, 11:55:09 pm »
Man, the Washington Post has just become worthless.

That will doubtless come as unwelcome news to the flocks of parakeets whose cages the Post has lined for decades.
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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2015, 12:32:50 am »
Man, the Washington Post has just become worthless.

Yep! About 30 years ago!
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Re: The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2015, 01:36:47 am »
"The quiet impact of Obama’s Christian faith..."

...demonstrates that he has learned his use of taqiyya very well, indeed.

Certainly enough to bamboozle the fools at the Washington Post!