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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #75 on: December 22, 2015, 12:54:02 am »
A few things jump out.

She certainly has meth-head.
I am sure the WH somehow blocked any blood draw. A blood draw should be without question in this case, but I'm sure it was not done for this or that reason. Or it is missing mysteriously. Something like that.

She says she is a model, which is a very common code for prostitution.

The Facebook page may be real, but it was certainly with no doubt scrubbed.

Prostitution is very likely - it is endemic here.  The police did say at one of the briefings that they were testing for drugs but did not have the results yet.  Alcohol is apparently out.  Mostly, they are searching for motive still as this is a pretty bizarre case.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #76 on: December 22, 2015, 12:59:38 am »
A few things jump out.

She certainly has meth-head.
I am sure the WH somehow blocked any blood draw. A blood draw should be without question in this case, but I'm sure it was not done for this or that reason. Or it is missing mysteriously. Something like that.

She says she is a model, which is a very common code for prostitution.

The Facebook page may be real, but it was certainly with no doubt scrubbed.
Fully agree. I think Reid had much to do about this too. Money during New Years Eve.  They say they have a video of her rampage........will it mysteriously vanish soon?


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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #77 on: December 22, 2015, 01:21:01 am »
No one is claiming this is terrorism. sheesh.

Read the thread.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #78 on: December 22, 2015, 01:34:02 am »
You read the thread.  I wrote a bunch of it and from the outset was very clear what was being said when.  People are hypothesizing about possibilities because no motive has been determined in a very, very odd case.  Given what is happening in our country and around the world, it is very reasonable that people would wonder when there is nothing to fill in the blanks - even the police are asking for people to help get them information.  It is a bizarre event that does not appear to be terrorism related...it is certainly not terrorism from the standpoint of organization but it is still possible that it may be a very troubled or wacked out person that thought they were doing something like committing terror.  That is all that is being speculated about.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #79 on: December 22, 2015, 02:27:09 am »
Was the Planned Parenthood shooter in Colorado Springs a terrorist?

If this Vegas thing is terrorism, that surely was.

Is everything terrorism?  Is this place turning into conspiracy central?

Right now everyone is just chatting, the price of tin foil isn't up yet (unlike other sites that are already screaming false flag).
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« Reply #80 on: December 22, 2015, 02:28:52 am »
Right now everyone is just chatting, the price of tin foil isn't up yet (unlike other sites that are already screaming false flag).
My bet is a strung out junkie.

Me too. But the willingness of some to jump offside on the side of terrorism when the perp is just a dumb druggie is funny.
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« Reply #81 on: December 22, 2015, 03:14:43 am »
Me too. But the willingness of some to jump offside on the side of terrorism when the perp is just a dumb druggie is funny.

Oh yeah because you know everything immediately Mr. Brilliant...the man who told us For Hours that San Bernardino was workplace violence.  Dude, the stopped clock has been kicking your butt all over the place.
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« Reply #82 on: December 22, 2015, 03:18:18 am »
Oh yeah because you know everything immediately Mr. Brilliant...the man who told us For Hours that San Bernardino was workplace violence.  Dude, the stopped clock has been kicking your butt all over the place.

I never said that SB was workplace violence. I said we didn't know, the same thing some posters on here have been saying.

Take it from me, a nasty piece of work, YOU are a nasty piece of work.
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« Reply #83 on: December 22, 2015, 03:25:58 am »
Take it from me, a nasty piece of work, YOU are a nasty piece of work.

Another day, another thread, another personal attack.

A side note: just yesterday Paleo was rebuked by administration for calling posters here "idiots",and advised he might perhaps be happier elsewhere. Meanwhile this poster is allowed to insult and attack non-stop, constantly, continually, and refer to a fellow poster as "a nasty piece of work."

Why is this allowed? Why the double standard?
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« Reply #84 on: December 22, 2015, 03:29:15 am »
Another day, another thread, another personal attack.

A side note: just yesterday Paleo was rebuked by administration for calling posters here "idiots",and advised he might perhaps be happier elsewhere. Meanwhile this poster is allowed to insult and attack non-stop, constantly, continually, and refer to a fellow poster as "a nasty piece of work."

Why is this allowed? Why the double standard?

Did you read what Scottflc said above?  That I was "getting my butt kicked".  That's not an attack to you, I"m sure, because you like Scott and hate me.

Deal with it, Pal. I ain't going anywhere voluntarily.   And your constant whining is just irritating.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #85 on: December 22, 2015, 03:32:06 am »
No one knows yet.

Could be some wacked addict.
Could be some kind of paid economic motive, due to time and place.
Could be a suicide attempt.
Could be anything.

But it would be extremely irresponsible at this point to ignore or dismiss the possibility of some sort of terroristic motivation. If so, whether it was racial or Islamic, there is no way to know at this point.

Now is not the time to rule out any possibilities.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #86 on: December 22, 2015, 03:36:50 am »
Did you read what Scottflc said above?  That I was "getting my butt kicked".  That's not an attack to you, I"m sure, because you like Scott and hate me.

Deal with it, Pal. I ain't going anywhere voluntarily.   And your constant whining is just irritating.

Butt kicked by a stopped clock, it's better if you complete the thought.  And you are very forgetful about what you said on the San Bernardino thread...you were ridiculing people calling it terrorism. I'll do a little search and post a few of your gems here for you.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #87 on: December 22, 2015, 03:39:58 am »
Butt kicked by a stopped clock, it's better if you complete the thought.  And you are very forgetful about what you said on the San Bernardino thread...you were ridiculing people calling it terrorism. I'll do a little search and post a few of your gems here for you.

Ok. Whatever gives you jollies. I ain't comin' back to this thread.
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« Reply #88 on: December 22, 2015, 03:42:41 am »
Wasting my time.

I go out for a minute to write an adult considered post, and I come back to find out that I just posted something to the 'ball-cage' at Kiddyland.

I am embarrassed to say anything intelligent in this environment.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #89 on: December 22, 2015, 03:58:51 am »
Some Sinkspur gems from San Bernardino:

This is not ISIS.  Not enough dead.  They would have shot as many people in that building as they could have.  No, this was somebody pissed off at somebody or at the group which was in that conference room

Exactly.  This is not random terror, which is ISIS' specialty.  Somebody was pissed and had accomplices (and why these other two would go down for this other clown is a mystery).

But Paris didn't happen during the work DAY.  ISIS is random terror.  This was, unfortunately, workplace violence, it seems.

Do you know the shooters had Arabic ties?  The theory being advanced on FOXNEWS on background by LEOs is that the main shooter went to the meeting to make sure the target or targets are there, then leave in a feigned huff, grab two accomplices who were already dressed out, and came in and shot JUST THE PEOPLE AT THAT MEETING OR PARTY. 
 
Ft. Hood was random.  This appears to be targeted at certain individuals or a whole group.

The victims were random.
The victims here seem to have been targeted.



Those stopped clocks are tough opponents.
No one is claiming terrorism here, but you should be less certain of your pronouncements.




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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #90 on: December 22, 2015, 04:02:11 am »


Really? Did the smartest guy ever on here really say those things?

Oh me, oh my.

(Now he has to pretend he hasn't read your post, Scottftlc: "I ain't comin' back to this thread.") LOL.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #91 on: December 22, 2015, 04:05:41 am »
Yup, it's all right there on the thread, as Casey said: And you can look it up!
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #92 on: December 22, 2015, 10:49:31 am »
Female driver, 24, who 'intentionally plowed into Vegas Strip crowd' outside Miss Universe pageant killing mom-of-three was living in her car with toddler, three

    Lakeisha N. Holloway, 24, of Portland, will be charged with murder with a deadly weapon, authorities said Monday
    Faces multiple attempted murder charges, child abuse or neglect and failure to stop at the scene of an accident
    Holloway's three-year-old daughter was in the back seat, but was not injured and is now in protective custody
    Jessica Valenzuela, 32, of Buckeye, Arizona, who was visiting Vegas with her husband, died in the crash on Sunday
    Six victims initially in a critical condition are now stable and four others have been treated for minor injuries
    Three remain in a critical condition at the University Medical Center and injured included Oregon college students
    It happened in front of the Paris Hotel & Casino and Planet Hollywood as the Miss Universe Pageant was underway
    Authorities said people jumped on the car and banged on windows as it plowed through pedestrians on a sidewalk
    Police say they have not absolutely ruled out terrorism, but Sheriff Joseph Lombardo does not believe it was

By Regina F. Graham and Jenny Stanton and Khaleda Rahman and Daniel Bates For Dailymail.com

Published: 23:21 EST, 20 December 2015 | Updated: 19:53 EST, 21 December 2015
 

A mother-of-three was killed and 37 others injured after a homeless female driver intentionally plowed into pedestrians on the sidewalk of the Las Vegas Strip, police said.

Jessica Valenzuela, 32, of Buckeye, Arizona, died in the crash on Sunday night, after Lakeisha N. Holloway, 24, of Portland, allegedly hit pedestrians on two different sections of the sidewalk while heading north on Las Vegas Boulevard near Bellagio Way.

At a press conference at 10am PST on Monday, Clark County District Attorney Steve Wolfson said initial charges include murder with use of a deadly weapon as well as multiple counts of attempted murder with a deadly weapon, child abuse or neglect and failure to remain at the scene of an accident.

He said: 'When a person drives a 2,000-pound-plus motor vehicle intentionally onto a sidewalk, killing and injuring scores of people, that's murder.' Holloway is being held without bail at Clark County Jail.

While the motive remains unclear, Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said he does not believe the incident was a case of terrorism. However, he said he was not able to absolutely rule out terrorism at this stage due to a lack of information about the suspect.

Authorities said people jumped on the car and banged on its windows as it plowed through pedestrians on the sidewalk.

Lombardo told reporters that Holloway was stoic and didn't appear to be distressed when she was arrested. He said she told a valet at a hotel to call 911 after she mowed down people on Las Vegas Boulevard.

He added Holloway had made statements about her motive at the scene, but was 'not comfortable' with divulging those comments. However, he insisted that those statements did not suggest the motive was terrorism.

Authorities said they were struggling to piece together Holloway's background. She changed her name to Paris Paradise Morton in October, according to Oregon court records.
 
Police said Holloway's three-year-old daughter was in the car, but was not injured and has been taken into protective custody

He said Holloway had alluded to a 'disassociation' with the father of her child, who is now in protective custody.

She did not appear to be under the influence of alcohol, police said, but a drug recognition expert on the scene determined Holloway was under the influence of a 'stimulant,' although blood test results are pending.

Holloway told authorities that she had been in Las Vegas for around a week, Lombardo added, and police believe she was living in her vehicle with her daughter. Lombardo said she was thought to have been passing through Las Vegas on her way to find the child's estranged father in Texas.

TMZ reports that Holloway is a model, who was in Sin City for work. She had just started a clothing line, but it is not clear if she was modeling her own lothes or picking up work elsewhere.

Earlier on Monday, Clark County Coroner John Fudenberg identified Valenzuela, 32, of Buckeye, Arizona, as the woman who died. The coroner said the suburban Phoenix woman was visiting Las Vegas with her husband. The couple had celebrated their ten-year wedding anniversary earlier this month.

A cause of death is pending, with an autopsy scheduled for Monday.

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« Reply #93 on: December 22, 2015, 11:22:12 am »
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Lombardo told reporters that Holloway was stoic and didn't appear to be distressed when she was arrested. He said she told a valet at a hotel to call 911 after she mowed down people on Las Vegas Boulevard.

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« Reply #94 on: December 22, 2015, 12:42:09 pm »

I...will...not...pile...on... :nometalk:

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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #95 on: December 22, 2015, 01:07:38 pm »
Good. This feud is getting both puerile and boring.
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« Reply #96 on: December 22, 2015, 01:23:48 pm »
Good. This feud is getting both puerile and boring.

This incident in Las Vegas does point out the futility of piling on more burdensome gun control legislation.

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« Reply #97 on: December 22, 2015, 02:50:28 pm »
Some answers..

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Suspect in Vegas crash felt 'stressed'

A homeless woman accused of slamming a car carrying her 3-year-old daughter into a crowd of pedestrians on the Las Vegas Strip told authorities she was stressed out after being chased by security guards from parking lots where she had been trying to sleep before the crash, according to a police report obtained Monday.

Lakeisha N. Holloway, 24, resided in Oregon and had been in Las Vegas for about a week in her 1996 Oldsmobile sedan, parking it at garages throughout the city, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said.

After her arrest, Holloway "described a stressful period today where she was trying to rest/sleep inside her vehicle with her daughter but kept getting run off by security of the properties she stopped at," the police report states.....


....Investigators said Holloway had run out of money, and she and her daughter had been living in the car. Police believe she was headed to Dallas to find her daughter's father after they had a falling out......

....She had changed her name to Paris Paradise Morton in October, according to Oregon court records.....

.....There was no evidence that Holloway had consumed alcohol, but a drug recognition expert at the scene determined that she was under the influence of some sort of stimulant....

http://www.news-journal.com/news/2015/dec/21/suspect-in-vegas-crash-felt-stressed/




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« Reply #98 on: December 22, 2015, 03:08:05 pm »
Exactly as I suspected.   :laugh:

It's too easy.   

Must be from watching all those British/European detective series on Netflix.   :whistle:
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« Reply #99 on: December 22, 2015, 03:54:54 pm »
where are the calls for common sense car laws?