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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2015, 08:29:23 pm »
He said at 11 AM that "there was no indication" that terrorism was involved.  This is actually a slight walk back from last night at 11 PM.  At first the police said "not ruled out" in the first two hours after the incident.  Then they flatly ruled it out beginning at 10 PM.  No today they say "no indication" of terrorism.  So they are using different, more nuanced words now, but I think they are saying the same thing.

I have to caveat that this is Vegas...Harry Reid IS involved here though he's way behind the scenes and it is critically important to the economy that this NOT be terrorism.  In less than two weeks, there will be between 1 and 2 million people on the Strip and downtown at Fremont on New Year's Eve - The Strip will be closed to all but pedestrians, as always.  It will be densely packed there and the money will be flowing.  Take that for whatever it is worth.  But if there is something to the "Allah Akbar" angle, this person may just be a crazed lunatic doing this on her own.

IMO, at first they didn't think it was Jihadist terrorism.  More a hate crime, based upon race with intent to kill or maim.

So, they rushed to say "It wasn't terrorism".   :shrug:

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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2015, 08:36:24 pm »
IMO, at first they didn't think it was Jihadist terrorism.  More a hate crime, based upon race with intent to kill or maim.

So, they rushed to say "It wasn't terrorism".   :shrug:

Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all that they are (or were, last night) under intense political pressure (local pressure too, not necessarily national politics) to rule out terrorism.  There is SO much money at stake with New Year's Eve coming up.  But this woman was certainly a lone wolf type, so it's hard to land on terrorism as there was nothing else violent happening on the Strip when this happened.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2015, 08:45:05 pm »
I doubt that she was any kind of real jihadist.

It is more likely about 'influences'. And the biggest, most prominent, negative influence on American society today is Obama, especially concerning issues of race and religion. And with Obama's tacit support, BLM is confusing and racializing vulnerable Black people across the country.

I think this is an outcome of Obama's unrelenting negativity on just about everything, except anything concerning Islam or Muslims of course.

Elements of probability there, my friend. Truth has often been a casualty in the waning epoch of Obama, except for those willing to look for it.

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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2015, 08:49:45 pm »
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I doubt that she was any kind of real jihadist.

It is more likely about 'influences'. And the biggest, most prominent, negative influence on American society today is Obama, especially concerning issues of race and religion. And with Obama's tacit support, BLM is confusing and racializing vulnerable Black people across the country.

I think this is an outcome of Obama's unrelenting negativity on just about everything, except anything concerning Islam or Muslims of course.
I agree.


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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2015, 08:59:02 pm »
The constant tone of hate and anger coming from Obama effects the vulnerable the worst. In should be no surprise that the weakest among them may snap.

Obama's "Hope and Change" has turned out to be "Gloom and Doom".
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2015, 09:21:35 pm »
"Gloom and Doom".
Also "death and destruction"


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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2015, 10:54:46 pm »

Las Vegas Strip Crash Driver Says I Was Just Really Tired


http://www.tmz.com/2015/12/21/las-vegas-strip-crash-driver-tired/

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The woman who mowed down several dozen people in Las Vegas Sunday night says she was sober but just extremely tired.

Lakeisha Holloway told police she was trying to sleep in her car on several hotel properties but security kept running her off.

In the police report, obtained by TMZ, Holloway described a "stressful period of time today where she was trying to rest/sleep inside her vehicle with her daughter."

Holloway told cops she doesn't really know how she ended up on the Strip. The report says, "She would not explain why she drove on the sidewalk but remembered a body bouncing off of her windshield, breaking it."

Holloway told cops after the crash she drove a mile on a flat tire before driving onto hotel property, telling the security officer what happened and asking him to call police.

The police report says Holloway said she was not under the influence of any drugs or alcohol.

She was just sleepy poor thing, that is why she was able to get onto the sidewalk, plow into a bunch of people, get off the sidewalk, drive a little more, plow into a bunch of other people, get off the sidewalk, then plow into them again, poor gal, she was just sleepy


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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2015, 11:38:26 pm »
Definitely something hinky about this story. What aren't they telling us?
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2015, 11:44:03 pm »
Definitely something hinky about this story. What aren't they telling us?
As usual the truth.


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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2015, 12:09:12 am »
Woman arrested in Las Vegas crash is 'beautiful person,' may have fallen asleep at wheel, family says

http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2015/12/woman_who_plowed_into_vegas_pe.html#incart_river_home

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The Portland woman accused of driving into dozens of people and killing one in Las Vegas may have fallen asleep at the wheel, her cousin said Monday.

Lakeisha Holloway, 24, is suspected of swerving onto a Las Vegas sidewalk Sunday evening. Based on video footage, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it appeared that Holloway intentionally veered into pedestrians, but the family disputes that account.

Holloway works a lot and sleeps little, said her cousin, LaShay Hardaway. Taking care of her 3-year-old daughter and managing her fashion projects could have taken a toll, Hardaway said.

"She's just always thinking about her daughter or the next thing she needs to take care of," her cousin said. Holloway is a "beautiful person," she said.

Holloway went to Las Vegas because she was considering moving there. She was recently a student at Portland Community College, Hardaway said, and had a job in Portland but was looking at other options

Wow they are really in overdrive to protect her? That was some hell of a sleep. 3 times trying to murder people with her car.


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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2015, 12:11:49 am »
Woman arrested in Las Vegas crash is 'beautiful person,' may have fallen asleep at wheel, family says

http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2015/12/woman_who_plowed_into_vegas_pe.html#incart_river_home

Wow they are really in overdrive to protect her? That was some hell of a sleep. 3 times trying to murder people with her car.

I suspect she may be lawyered up by now.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2015, 12:18:29 am »
« Last Edit: December 22, 2015, 12:19:07 am by AbaraXas »

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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #62 on: December 22, 2015, 12:19:03 am »
I suspect she may be lawyered up by now.

You know she is. Probably with Obama and AG advising her team. Before they are done she'll be some kind of a national hero and eat at the White House.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #63 on: December 22, 2015, 12:20:56 am »
I suspect she may be lawyered up by now.
Figured that out earlier today. The best lawyers the DOJ has I bet.


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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2015, 12:22:55 am »
Nothing that jumps out here.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002567592222&fref=photo
Notice how this facebook page is still around? Nothing does jump out. They usually take off the facebook page of most of them, not this one though.


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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2015, 12:24:08 am »
Notice how this facebook page is still around? Nothing does jump out. They usually take off the facebook page of most of them, not this one though.

It doesn't have signs of being fake either. Usually when these events happen, a lot of fake pages show up. This one seems legit.

No BLM stuff, no religion, no politics, just mundane family and fashion likes and connections.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2015, 12:25:16 am »
You know she is. Probably with Obama and AG advising her team. Before they are done she'll be some kind of a national hero and eat at the White House.
Will they blame the ones she tried to murder at some point?  Sorta sarc.  :smokin:


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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2015, 12:28:38 am »
Her a couple of years ago.


Her mugshot today.


Time hasn't been good to her. I wonder if she was strung out on something?

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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2015, 12:31:09 am »
It doesn't have signs of being fake either. Usually when these events happen, a lot of fake pages show up. This one seems legit.
I have my tinfoil hat on.......with facebook in bed with White House how could you tell if fake or not?

 For the record  I think she may have been tired......of life. BLM may have been going on here too. She tried 3 times to murder people with daughter in car. Drugs, meth I think are involved too here. I think prostitution too. 



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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2015, 12:34:13 am »
I have my tinfoil hat on.......with facebook in bed with White House how could you tell if fake or not?

 For the record  I think she may have been tired......of life. BLM may have been going on here too. She tried 3 times to murder people with daughter in car. Drugs, meth I think are involved too here. I think prostitution too.

The simplest signs a page is fake include activity after event happened, changes to posts or images, or name changes, etc. Also no friends or very few, no likes, etc.

This one mirrors the life that was released, from Oregon to Las Vegas with likes following. There are also comments going back several years where people were using her name (so no changing the name of another account), also on her friends list, obvious family members (same last name) who were also active on her page.

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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #70 on: December 22, 2015, 12:42:36 am »
The simplest signs a page is fake include activity after event happened, changes to posts or images, or name changes, etc. Also no friends or very few, no likes, etc.

This one mirrors the life that was released, from Oregon to Las Vegas with likes following. There are also comments going back several years where people were using her name (so no changing the name of another account), also on her friends list, obvious family members (same last name) who were also active on her page.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2015, 12:42:53 am »
Update from about a half hour ago.  The interesting thing here is a continued backing away from the absolute declaration last night that this was not terrorism.  It's back to the "we don't suspect it, but we don't know" phase.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-team-who-is-lakeisha-holloway

Although police have a suspect in the deadly rampage on the Las Vegas Strip, many questions remain about her and a possible motive for this horrific act.

Who is Lakeisha Holloway? And is there something in her past that might explain what happened?

Several obvious areas are being explored.

First, was there drug or alcohol impairment? Police say alcohol is not likely, but drugs possibly played a role.

Another question was whether this attack was pre-meditated or a possible act of terror?

Police don't suspect terror, at this point, but can't rule it out until they know more about Holloway's background.

Out of the carnage that claimed one life and left dozens of others changed forever, there is a question that perhaps only the suspect can answer.

"What caused her to do this? We need to be more comfortable in the reasons behind that and -- in particular -- what her background is that we need to be aware of," said Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo.

A video featuring Lakeisha Holloway can be found online. It was made five years tells a story of how she beat the odds. Holloway was homeless teen and a single parent with alcohol problems. In 2012, she was honored as a role model by the Portland, Oregon Opportunity Industrialization Center.

Holloway ended up graduating high school, attended college and landed a job with the forest service. In the video, Holloway describes her transformation.

"Today, I'm not the scared little girl I used to be. I'm a mature young woman who has broken many generational cycles that those before me hadn't."

How Holloway went from apparent success story to accused killer in a vehicle rampage on the Strip remains a mystery. But it does appear she'd been in Las Vegas about a week living out of her car with her 3-year old daughter who is now in protective custody.

"We haven't determined to the exact fact what the motive was," Lombardo said. "We believe she had some disassociation with the father of her child."

"Her being in Las Vegas for approximately a week and homeless and residing in her vehicle -- we don't know exactly the percipient event that caused her to snap and/or whether it was planned previously.

The child's father, Lombardo says, appears to live in the Dallas, Texas area and Holloway may have been working her way toward Texas via Las Vegas. Though a motive is still only speculation -- Lombardo says video from surveillance cameras shows the attack itself was clearly intentional.

Wolfson says additional charges are likely as the investigation continues and those charges might include a slew of attempted murder charges for each person injured or forced to flee from the attack.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2015, 12:46:56 am »
A few things jump out.

She certainly has meth-head.
I am sure the WH somehow blocked any blood draw. A blood draw should be without question in this case, but I'm sure it was not done for this or that reason. Or it is missing mysteriously. Something like that.

She says she is a model, which is a very common code for prostitution.

The Facebook page may be real, but it was certainly with no doubt scrubbed.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #73 on: December 22, 2015, 12:47:41 am »
Was the Planned Parenthood shooter in Colorado Springs a terrorist?

If this Vegas thing is terrorism, that surely was.

Is everything terrorism?  Is this place turning into conspiracy central?
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Re: Mass Casualty Incident on Las Vegas Strip
« Reply #74 on: December 22, 2015, 12:51:24 am »
Was the Planned Parenthood shooter in Colorado Springs a terrorist?

If this Vegas thing is terrorism, that surely was.

Is everything terrorism?  Is this place turning into conspiracy central?

No one is claiming this is terrorism. sheesh.
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