Rubio misses spending bill vote

[Carling]

I don't know what they favor. 

And I have not seen "conservative Hispanics" polled recently.

You agreed with the poster who said Rubio would attract conservative Hispanics.  Why would conservative Hispanics be inclined to follow Rubio?

[sinkspur]

You agreed with the poster who said Rubio would attract conservative Hispanics.  Why would conservative Hispanics be inclined to follow Rubio?

They believe in economic freedom, freedom of speech, second amendment rights, and a vigorous foreign policy. 

[Scottftlc]

They believe in economic freedom, freedom of speech, second amendment rights, and a vigorous foreign policy.

Sink is right, all 75 Hispanic conservatives believe in those things.

[GAJohnnie]

So how do Hispanic Conservatives feel about Rubio promising to fight the Omnibus Budget bill with "every possible procedural tool" one day then the next day not showing up in DC for a "Meaningless vote" on the Omnibus Budget bill?

[EdinVA]

They believe in economic freedom, freedom of speech, second amendment rights, and a vigorous foreign policy.

If your contention is that the 11 million believe in those things, then why don't they go fix their home country?

[aligncare]

If your contention is that the 11 million believe in those things, then why don't they go fix their home country?

Because, the fallacy goes:

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

A poem on the Statue of Liberty compels us to sink deeper into debt importing the world's poor and uneducated, so that we may feel good about ourselves as our country (our economy) circles the drain into the oblivion of history.

[Sanguine]

This is the home country for an estimated 54 million Hispanics. Most have some extended families living in other countries and care deeply about insults and disparaging comments
made about their cultural heritage. Yet, they would gladly fight and put their lives on the line to serve our country. About 18% of our US Marines are proud Hispanics who love their country, the USA.

Who's talking about citizens?  The topic was about illegals.

[Relic]

Who's talking about citizens?  The topic was about illegals.

There is the problem. Emotions run so high in this discussion that people who are well meaning, lump citizens in with illegals. Good citizens feel slandered when talking about criminals simply because their ethnic background is the same.

I have no issue with Mexicans who come here legally. I understand the issues as to why some come illegally. But when the not insignificant number of criminals are mentioned, everyone loses perspective.

[EdinVA]

This is the home country for an estimated 54 million Hispanics. Most have some extended families living in other countries and care deeply about insults and disparaging comments
made about their cultural heritage. Yet, they would gladly fight and put their lives on the line to serve our country. About 18% of our US Marines are proud Hispanics who love their country, the USA.

So the citizens of a country are free to allow terrorists and drug lords turn their nation into a cesspool, then they run here, legally and illegally, cannot work so they climb into the public womb or are employed underground while WE send our kids to their country to fight their fight, all the while, some significant percentage of those "immigrants" are terrorists, rapists, murderers etc and their underground society provides protection, and you are ok with this?

There is every indication that ISIS/et. al are merging with the drug cartels so I have EVERY reason to believe we will be fighting in our southern neighbors soon.

Now I have disparaged them...

[aligncare]

cuky: (just a suggestion) love the sinner, but hate the sin.

I love Mexicans as much as I love every human being. But, I hate illegal immigration.

[Sanguine]

My original comment was about Rubio helping to bring into the GOP tent millions of Conservative Hispanics. Posters followed up with the comments about the insignificance of the Hispanic conservative vote and then of course, the commentary of go home to your own countries.

I know  a number of conservative American hispanics.  And, yes, they do exist and in significant numbers.

[GAJohnnie]

I have been marrried to and am in love with a beautiful woman from Colombia for 33 years  ^-^.

I also oppose illegal immigration as does Marco Rubio.
But the question on how to deal with those who are here illegally and have lived here for decades with families living here does not deserve a quick retort of
deport them all that some would suggest (not saying you). Secure the borders first as Rubio is now saying is a definite. Bringing the illegals out of the shadows where
not only we are exploited, but often times they are also, is a an issue that also needs to be addressed (after securing the border).

If Rubio is opposed, why did he vote for the Amnesty bill in 2013?

[Bigun]

I know  a number of conservative American hispanics.  And, yes, they do exist and in significant numbers.

So do I!  And the ones I know do not like what's been happening with the illegals even a little bit!

[Bigun]

I would agree that most do not like the present course of what is happening with the illegal immigrants here and most
do oppose open borders as do I.

The one's I know pretty much agree with my position which is "ENFORCE THE DAMNED LAW!!!"

[Bigun]

I hear the same sentiment from Hispanics when discussing new illegal immigrants and the desire to secure our borders. Personally, I find few, actually I haven't heard any talk about mass deportations of those who have lived here a significant amount of time.

Nor have I but they do not favor granting them a pathway to citizenship either!

If you want to become a citizen you MUST do it the right way!

[Bigun]

There are pathways that lead to "legal status" that does not include citizenship, something that is precious and should be treated as such. I applaud those willing to discuss these sensitive topics without being accused of supporting "open borders'. I also respect and appreciate your bluntness without delving into the name calling.

Thank you Cuky! I try very hard to discuss all subjects in that manner but sometimes the environment prevents it. 

[Scottftlc]

My original comment was about Rubio helping to bring into the GOP tent millions of Conservative Hispanics. Posters followed up with the comments about the insignificance of the Hispanic conservative vote and then of course, the commentary of go home to your own countries.

Millions of conservative Hispanics? Being brought into the Republican tent? In Las Vegas, fully 1/3 of the population is Hispanic - somewhere between 25-50k illegals out of roughly 650,000 Hispanics. In the last gubernatorial election, Brian Sandoval - 3rd generation I believe, from Hispanic parents ran as a Republican and won against the foppish Rory Reid, son of Harry. The son of Harry got 2/3 of the Hispanic vote in Las Vegas against a Hispanic.  These people are NOT political conservatives, they are SOCIAL conservatives who are also socialist in their politics.  You will get their votes with government largesse - and nothing else.  You live in a fantasy land - so take your stupid insults and stick them where the sun doesn't shine, our maybe come live in the southwest and learn something to cure your ignorance.

[DCPatriot]

Nor have I but they do not favor granting them a pathway to citizenship either!

If you want to become a citizen you MUST do it the right way!

It's not that I don't understand what you mean as to "...do it the right way!".  I do.  Follow the law and you should be addressed first.  Not the fence jumpers.

But when one person breaks the law, it's a crime.  When 15,000,000 do it, it's an event.

Giving them the vote is suicide.  Quite possibly, literally.

[Sanguine]

Nor have I but they do not favor granting them a pathway to citizenship either!

If you want to become a citizen you MUST do it the right way!

And, I would argue, if you want to live here, you must do it the right way. Enforcing current laws, fairly and evenly, will take care of much of the problem.

[Bigun]

It's not that I don't understand what you mean as to "...do it the right way!".  I do.  Follow the law and you should be addressed first.  Not the fence jumpers.

But when one person breaks the law, it's a crime.  When 15,000,000 do it, it's an event.

Giving them the vote is suicide.  Quite possibly, literally.

I don't see that we are in any disagreement at all. Am I missing something?

[DCPatriot]

I don't see that we are in any disagreement at all. Am I missing something?

When 15,000,000 have done it without arrest and deportation....it's the "right way".     

[Bigun]

When 15,000,000 have done it without arrest and deportation....it's the "right way".   

OK! I see the disagreement now and TOTALLY disagree with that!

[aligncare]

When 15,000,000 have done it without arrest and deportation....it's the "right way".   

You mean by design. Correct?

[truth_seeker]

Who's talking about citizens?  The topic was about illegals.

Citizens can be and are OFFENDED when anybody disrespects their ancestry.

Trumps rants are offensive to some. When you are the minority party, you can't afford to push groups of voters, away.

[Carling]

Citizens can be and are OFFENDED when anybody disrespects their ancestry.

Trumps rants are offensive to some. When you are the minority party, you can't afford to push groups of voters, away.

Or, we can continue to lie and pretend that illegal Hispanics don't commit crimes at a much higher rate than American citizens.  That's the GOPe way of winning national elections!  Worked great for McCain and Romney, right?