Trump: Roberts 'Disgraceful' on High Court; Thomas Is Favorite

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Trump: Roberts 'Disgraceful' on High Court; Thomas Is Favorite
Saturday, December 12, 2015 02:32 PM

By: By BILL BARROW

Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts is "disgraceful" and a "disappointment" to conservatives, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said Saturday, while praising Associate Justice Clarence Thomas is his favorite member of the high court.

"Justice Roberts really let us down. What he did with Obamacare was disgraceful, and I think he did that because he wanted to be popular inside the Beltway," Trump told about 4,000 supporters. The celebrity billionaire was referring to the chief justice twice voting to uphold key provisions of President Barack Obama's 2010 health care law and to the expressway around the District of Columbia, an area regarded as the center of U.S. government and politics.

Thomas, arguably one of the court's most conservative members, is "very strong and consistent," Trump said.

The GOP front-runner offered his assessment during an hourlong question-and-answer-session with Attorney General Alan Wilson. The South Carolina Republican is hosting a series of forums in this early voting state to query GOP hopefuls about their theories on constitutional law and the role of the federal government.

But the event had the feel of a typical, large Trump rally: a boisterous crowd in Trump campaign regalia who drowned out multiple protesters with chants of "Trump! Trump! Trump!" as authorities escorted them out.

Trump avoided specifics on nearly all of Wilson's questions.

He praised Thomas and rebuked Roberts when Wilson asked what kind of federal judges he would appoint, but did not specifically address Wilson's question about how a President Trump would vet and interview prospective nominees. "We want smart, conservative and we want people that are truly in love with the Constitution," he said.

Trump pledged to gut executive actions taken by Obama, but the only policy area he mentioned was immigration. "He signed an executive order where people can just pour in," Trump said, a reference to executive orders intended to forestall deportation for certain immigrants already in the country illegally.

Prompted by Wilson, Trump also blasted government regulations. He focused his ire on water regulations that he says flood the market with bad faucets, toilets and shower heads.

"There's no water pressure," he complained. "The problem is you stand under the shower five times as long wasting more water than if you used the other one. So people are flushing seven, eight, 10 times. The end result is that it's no good and you end up wasting more water.

"I could name hundreds like that," Trump concluded about the regulations.

[sinkspur]

"Justice Roberts really let us down. What he did with Obamacare was disgraceful,

Don't forget that Trump voted for Obama in 2008 and was for single payer healthcare as late as September of THIS YEAR!

[flowers]

Don't forget that Trump voted for Obama in 2008 and was for single payer healthcare as late as September of THIS YEAR!

he said in one debate that he thought the government should pay for healthcare.......who in the world does he think government money comes from?

[sinkspur]

he said in one debate that he thought the government should pay for healthcare.......who in the world does he think government money comes from?

Trump's a big government guy.  And he'd push higher taxes in a heartbeat.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump's a big government guy.  And he'd push higher taxes in a heartbeat.

On whom?

[sinkspur]

On whom?

Everybody. Can't pay for single payer by just taxing the wealthy.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Everybody. Can't pay for single payer by just taxing the wealthy.

I pay attention to the man, and Trump has not said anything close to that.  Is this your opinion or do you have a link for this quote?

[truth_seeker]

I pay attention to the man, and Trump has not said anything close to that.  Is this your opinion or do you have a link for this quote?

Take your pick

https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=trump+single+payer+quote&oq=trump+single+&gs_l=hp.1.7.0l9.1689.7364.0.17262.14.13.0.1.1.0.293.2130.0j11j1.12.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..2.12.1860.0.za52LiFp8j8

[Carling]

Take your pick

https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=trump+single+payer+quote&oq=trump+single+&gs_l=hp.1.7.0l9.1689.7364.0.17262.14.13.0.1.1.0.293.2130.0j11j1.12.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..2.12.1860.0.za52LiFp8j8

He actually said single-payer could have worked in a different age.  Nice to see the liberal media's spin once again being used here by so-called "conservatives."

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/08/09/trump-singlepayer-health-care-could-have-worked-in-a-different-age-n2036717

[truth_seeker]

Forbes Sept. 28

"Donald Trump On Obamacare On '60 Minutes': 'Everybody's Got To Be Covered' And 'The Government's Gonna Pay For It'"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2015/09/28/donald-trump-on-obamacare-on-60-minutes-everybodys-got-to-be-covered-and-the-governments-gonna-pay-for-it/

That is no liberal talking point. That is Trump, recently, conservative media source, in his own words.

[Carling]

Forbes Sept. 28

"Donald Trump On Obamacare On '60 Minutes': 'Everybody's Got To Be Covered' And 'The Government's Gonna Pay For It'"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2015/09/28/donald-trump-on-obamacare-on-60-minutes-everybodys-got-to-be-covered-and-the-governments-gonna-pay-for-it/

That is no liberal talking point. That is Trump, recently, conservative media source, in his own words.

I notice you left out how he was talking about the truly poor, and left out this portion, which isn't at all a "single-payer" stance.  Selective editing; isn't that how everyone called George Zimmerman a racist?

the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

[alicewonders]

I see that happens often with Trump quotes, that's why I usually take them with a grain of salt.  You never know what's true and in context.

[Carling]

I see that happens often with Trump quotes, that's why I usually take them with a grain of salt.  You never know what's true and in context.

Apparently lying about saying Trump favors single-payer and creatively editing what he actually said is not only allowed here now, but if you dare question someone in The Boxing Ring, it gets deleted and you're told to PM the poster ignoring your questions. 

I know myst is in a tough spot, but lying like this should not be allowed on a forum with full of intelligent posters, which is TBR.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Getting back to the topic at hand, it is hard for me to fault Trump for his criticism of Roberts and admiration for Thomas as I agree.  Unfortunately, at this point, I don't believe a word Trump says anymore.

It is good that people are thinking about the likely SCOTUS vacancies when Obama steps down.  It is probably the most important issue for the next President, with the longest implications.

[sinkspur]

the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

How is this different from Obamacare?  You can have your plan, you can have your doctor, and there's going to be lots of plans, and "you can have everything".

So Trump is going to replace Obamacare with an identical system and call it Trumpcare?

[Carling]

How is this different from Obamacare?  You can have your plan, you can have your doctor, and there's going to be lots of plans, and "you can have everything".

So Trump is going to replace Obamacare with an identical system and call it Trumpcare?

The poster criticizing Trump said he favored single-payer, which isn't at all true reading the entire article he quoted.  I find truth-seeker's post to be selective editing and not representative of Trump's actual complete thoughts on ObamaCare.

What's Rubio going to do, other than continue to fund ObamaCare as it is?  We have a track record of Rubio doing exactly nothing to get rid of ObamaCare.

[evadR]

I see that happens often with Trump quotes, that's why I usually take them with a grain of salt.  You never know what's true and in context.

So true, and it's getting to where so much innuendo, opinion and outright deception is passed off as fact that credibility has become a moot issue.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

The poster criticizing Trump said he favored single-payer, which isn't at all true reading the entire article he quoted.  I find truth-seeker's post to be selective editing and not representative of Trump's actual complete thoughts on ObamaCare.

What's Rubio going to do, other than continue to fund ObamaCare as it is?  We have a track record of Rubio doing exactly nothing to get rid of ObamaCare.

My friend, Rubio is the one guy who did something of substance to kill Obamacare.  Rubio is the one who demanded no Obamacare bailouts.  It may actually be the dagger to the heart of Obamacare.  Other Republicans jumped aboard a cheap ploy to defund Obamacare through a shutdown that failed, and ultimately decimated the GOP brand.

Rubio is not the topic at hand though.

Sinkspur asked you about Trumpcare ('Everybody's Got To Be Covered' And 'The Government's Gonna Pay For It'")  You call that selective editing.  Selective editing is the liberal argument against the planned parenthood videos.  I call it an exact damn quote.

What is Trumps plan?  I ask knowing that you don't really support Trump, you only defend him at each turn.  I'll concede that Trump has not called for single payer, but the words 'Everybody's Got To Be Covered' And 'The Government's Gonna Pay For It'" mean something.  How do you reconcile this with your conservative philosophy?  How much socialism is acceptable in the furtherance of the Trump candidacy that you do not support?

[Carling]

My friend, Rubio is the one guy who did something of substance to kill Obamacare.  Rubio is the one who demanded no Obamacare bailouts.  It may actually be the dagger to the heart of Obamacare.  Other Republicans jumped aboard a cheap ploy to defund Obamacare through a shutdown that failed, and ultimately decimated the GOP brand.

Rubio is not the topic at hand though.

Sinkspur asked you about Trumpcare ('Everybody's Got To Be Covered' And 'The Government's Gonna Pay For It'")  You call that selective editing.  Selective editing is the liberal argument against the planned parenthood videos.  I call it an exact damn quote.

What is Trumps plan?  I ask knowing that you don't really support Trump, you only defend him at each turn.  I'll concede that Trump has not called for single payer, but the words 'Everybody's Got To Be Covered' And 'The Government's Gonna Pay For It'" mean something.  How do you reconcile this with your conservative philosophy?  How much socialism is acceptable in the furtherance of the Trump candidacy that you do not support?

Take this to the Members' Boxing Ring sub-forum and let's debate there.  At least you seem to want to engage in a debate, as opposed to sinkspur.