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France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
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France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
 
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France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
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December 5, 2015 11:41 AM
 
If the families of the perpetrators of the Paris attacks do not wish to hold a funeral, it is up to the local authorities to do so
Paris (AFP) - Bury them discreetly? Hand them back to their families, return them to the country of origin? Knowing what to do with the remains of the assailants involved in last month's Paris attacks is proving to be a conundrum for French officials.

The law envisages several scenarios, says Francois Michaud-Nerard, head of funeral services for the city of Paris.

"Either the families ask for their remains or they don't. If the families ask for their remains, the deceased have the right to a burial in the place where they lived, or where they died, or where the family has a burial plot."

If the families do not wish to hold a funeral, it is up to the local authorities in question to do so.

In any case, even "if there is no obligation to have an anonymous grave, that would be in everybody's interest," he said.

Officials fear that such a grave could become a site of "pilgrimage" for other extremists.

View galleryThe suspected Paris attackers from top (L) Samy Amimour, …
The suspected Paris attackers from top (L) Samy Amimour, an unidentified man, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, Br …
Seven gunmen and suicide bombers were killed on November 13 but so far, only four of them have been formally identified.

Of the three who blew themselves up outside the Stade de France national stadium in Saint-Denis, one has been identified as French-born Bilal Hadfi, 20, who lived in Belgium. The other two remain unidentified, despite carrying Syrian passports registered as entering Greece in October in the names of Ahmad al-Mohammad and Mohammad al-Mahmod.

Another three were killed after attacking the Bataclan concert hall: two have been identified: Samy Amimour, 28, and Omar Ismail Mostefai, 29, both French nationals. The third attacker remains unidentified. And Brahim Abdeslam, 31, another French national living in Belgium, blew himself up outside a bar on Boulevard Voltaire.

Three other people were killed in a massive police assault on a flat in the northern Paris suburb of Saint-Denis. One was Belgian jihadist Abdelhamid Abaaoud, 28, the suspected ringleader of the attacks, while another was a French-born woman of Moroccan descent identified as his cousin, 26-year-old Hasna Aitboulahcen.

A third man who blew himself up during the raid has not yet been identified.

View galleryIn the days after the Paris attacks, three people were …
In the days after the Paris attacks, three people were killed in a massive police assault on a flat …
Questioned by AFP, the mayors of the Paris suburbs of Drancy, where Amimour lived, and Courcouronnes, where Mostefai was born, and Saint-Denis where three suicide bombers blew themselves up, said they had not been informed of any plans to bury them.

Alexandre Luc-Walton, lawyer for the Amimour family, said his clients "were waiting for news from the forensic institute. They still do not have permission to bury him."

- 'No terrorist burial requests'

With the exception of Abaaoud, a Belgian national who was the suspected ringleader, and those who have not yet been identified, the attackers were all French nationals, although Brahim Abdeslam and Bilal Hadfi had been living in Belgium.

They could be buried in one of the Parisian cemeteries with a Muslim section, such as the one in the southern suburb of Thiais where Amedy Coulibaly, who attacked a Jewish supermarket in January, was buried.

View galleryThe Paris attackers could be buried in one of the cemeteries …
The Paris attackers could be buried in one of the cemeteries in the city with a Muslim section (AFP …
But the cemetery said it had "not received any request to bury terrorists."

Riva Kastoryano, author of the book "What to do with jihadists bodies?", said that those behind earlier attacks "were buried in France, where they held citizenship, and where their parests lived."

Where another country is involved, "everything depends on the relationship between the two states", each of which accuses the other of "responsibility for the radicalisation", says Kastoryano, who heads research at the French National Centre for Scientific Research (CNRS).

- Bury them quickly -

In the case of Mohammed Merah, who in 2012 shot dead three Jewish schoolchildren, a teacher and three soldiers, neither the city of Toulouse where he lived, nor Algeria where he came from wanted to take responsibility for the body.

"The mayor wanted to put off the burial but the very fact of leaving the body in the morgue gave it importance and meant people continued to talk about him," recalls Abdallah Zekri, a senior figure with the Grand Mosque of Paris, who was asked by Merah's mother to organise his funeral.

"I wanted him to be buried quickly so everyone would stop talking about him."

Fears that his grave would become a draw for other extremists have proved to be unfounded, he said.

"No one goes to his grave," he said.

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Re: France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 11:02:32 pm »
Why not cremate them and spread the ashes in pig poop.  Then drop them in a bomb on ISIS. :tongue2:

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Re: France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2015, 12:16:32 am »
Burn them and then mix the ashes into the mud bogs of the country's biggest pig farms.  That way, if their fans want to have a martyrdom celebration, they'll have to go sit in pigsh&t to do it.

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Re: France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2015, 12:17:23 am »
Why not cremate them and spread the ashes in pig poop.

Psychologically targeted responses are the only thing that are effective against those who are willing to die for their beliefs.

Fortunately, Islam has a weakness... what is done to 'martyrs' after they are dead affects their qualification for 'heaven'.

This is well known and the West's insistence on avoiding psychological responses shows that the opposition is controlled...


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Re: France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2015, 02:09:11 am »
Feed them to the hogs, on live television.

And then when the hogs push them out the other end, televise that, too!

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Re: France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2015, 05:10:22 am »
Find a pig farm. Recycle.
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Re: France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 05:45:19 pm »
Feed them to the hogs, on live television.

And then when the hogs push them out the other end, televise that, too!

I'm afraid the poor hogs would get violently ill.  :silly:

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Re: France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 05:47:16 pm »
Psychologically targeted responses are the only thing that are effective against those who are willing to die for their beliefs.
 

Black Jack Pershing proved this to be true in the Philippines when he had muzzies shot with bullets dipped in pig blood.  Poof - no more problems from the muzzies.

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Re: France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2015, 06:00:45 pm »
Pigs blood, then a landfill with the rest of the garbage.   :seeya:

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Re: France puzzles over what to do with Paris attackers' bodies
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2015, 06:19:54 pm »
I think we're unanimous in the porcine element here.   ^-^
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