Trump calls for 'complete shutdown' on Muslims entering US

[EdinVA]

Absolutely.  The United States Constitution applies to citizens of the United States.  Muslims wanting to enter this country have NO rights under OUR Constitution. WE however, have the right to determine who and who CANNOT enter this country.  Unfortunately we have a president in name only that wants to allow every anti-American that he can into this country to exterminate us.

I agree with Trump 100%.  There needs to be a COMPLETE shutdown of ALL Muslims entering the U.S.  Secondly, I believe until we get our borders secure and get things under control there needs to be a COMPLETE shutdown of ALL immigration (including refugees) into this country.  It was done before, it can be done again.

 

[Scottftlc]

Weak analogy...but you get the point.

It is bringing the Trojan Horse in even though we KNOW there is an army in its belly.  Because our society will change them...we love our happy fantasies.  It will take more, but maybe not much more, to shock people out of them.

[aligncare]

It is bringing the Trojan Horse in even though we KNOW there is an army in its belly.  Because our society will change them...we love our happy fantasies.  It will take more, but maybe not much more, to shock people out of them.

 

[alicewonders]

Weak analogy...but you get the point.

I thought it was a pretty good analogy!

[aligncare]

I thought it was a pretty good analogy!

I changed it a little and I think it makes more sense now.

[Machiavelli]

I'm just getting on this thread to state the obvious.

This is just one more example of Trump's making an outrageous statement just to get attention.

As I have stated before as an educator, bad children need attention, and they don't care whether the attention is bad or good, as long is everyone is looking at them.

Donald Trump clearly wants people to look at him.  It's what he does.......

 

[GAJohnnie]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262368-gop-dem-rivals-condemn-trumps-muslim-ban-proposal

December 07, 2015, 06:08 pm
GOP, Dem rivals condemn Trump's Muslim ban proposal

Perhaps all the Media/Political Establishment critics might want to learn the law. Going into hysterics about "Constitutionality" just shows how utterly ignornat they all are about anything that does not fit their bubble world ideological based dogmas

If the Democrat/GOP Uniparty objects to Trumps proposal, they should consider changing their laws.

Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

[sinkspur]

Perhaps all the Media/Political Establishment critics might want to learn the law. Going into hysterics about "Constitutionality" just shows how utterly ignornat they all are about anything that does not fit their bubble world ideological based dogmas

If the Democrat/GOP Uniparty objects to Trumps proposal, they should consider changing their laws.

Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

Yeah, yeah we get it.  And if Congress passes a LAW overturning his proclamation, by veto-proof majorities, he will have to fold.  And, make no mistake, Congress would do it.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Perhaps all the Media/Political Establishment critics might want to learn the law. Going into hysterics about "Constitutionality" just shows how utterly ignornat they all are about anything that does not fit their bubble world ideological based dogmas

If the Democrat/GOP Uniparty objects to Trumps proposal, they should consider changing their laws.

Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

Thank you for the link.
So it would be Constitutional for Obama to ban whites tourists from entering. hmmm.

[GAJohnnie]

So it would be Constitutional for Obama to ban whites tourists from entering. hmmm.

Scary isn't it?

[flowers]

I knew this would be an entertaining thread!

Applying the Constitution to foreign nationals who have never set foot in America...the whole world is America now I guess. Bringing in The Japanese internment of American citizens when we are talking here about temporarily stopping those foreign nationals from entering (largely to totally unvetted, as we've already proven) while we get a handle on our refugee, visa and immigration systems...not to mention passing judgement on our own leaders in WW2 facing an existential threat. 

I always said that liberals - the left - would happily go to their deaths, and cause all of our deaths, for their nice, sweet sensibilities that are oh, so fine in times of peace and safety.  I was unaware that conservatives would fall into that camp as well...simply out of foggy hatred for one individual.

 

[libertybele]

So it would be Constitutional for Obama to ban whites tourists from entering. hmmm.

Scary isn't it?

From my understanding there are White Muslims...so I think he would have to be more definitive.

[sinkspur]

Trump is making this election a referendum on our counter response to terrorism. I'm betting Americans have something to say about it, something in keeping with our history and tradition...once the Kenyan's gone.

No he's not. He's making it into a referendum on bigotry. Let's despise Mexicans, handicapped people, the news media, his opponents,women,  and Muslims.

Just wait, he might get around to your group next.

[sinkspur]

How does the First Amendment apply to halting the immigration of citizens/"refugees" from Muslim countries?

We didn't accept Japanese immigrants or anything other than German/Austrian Jewish immigrants during the WWII era.  Did that make us "Nazis?"

What an odd post.  Kind of dumb, actually, unless I'm missing something.

Congress apologized along with Ronald Reagan and gave monetary compensation to those held in internment camps and their children.  Kind of acknowledges we screwed up.

[flowers]

It is bringing the Trojan Horse in even though we KNOW there is an army in its belly.  Because our society will change them...we love our happy fantasies.  It will take more, but maybe not much more, to shock people out of them.

Another good post.

[aligncare]

No he's not. He's making it into a referendum on bigotry. Let's despise Mexicans, handicapped people, the news media, his opponents,women,  and Muslims.

Just wait, he might get around to your group next.

...immigrants who came to America in the 1950's, who fought in Vietnam, and who love America?

I don't think so...

(by the way, your breathless hyperbole is showing...)

[sinkspur]

...immigrants who came to America in the 1950's, who fought in Vietnam, and who love America?

I don't think so...

(by the way, your breathless hyperbole is showing...)

You're supporting a bigot. 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

No he's not. He's making it into a referendum on bigotry. Let's despise Mexicans, handicapped people, the news media, his opponents,women,  and Muslims.

Just wait, he might get around to your group next.

He will bring a new Golden Dawn to America.

[flowers]

The immigrants who came here in the 50's didn't want to go full on sharia in this country. That goes for most all immigrants coming thru Ellis Island.

[sinkspur]

The immigrants who came here in the 50's didn't want to go full on sharia in this country. That goes for most all immigrants coming thru Ellis Island.

And you don't know that all immigrants coming in today want to go full sharia either. 

So your point is moot.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

terriblezdog ‏@terriblezdog 3h3 hours ago

All this Trump talk has TOTALLY distracted me from the fact that Hillary is being investigated by FBI.  #copolitics

Lyndsey Fifield ‏@lyndseyfifield 3h3 hours ago

The media is pretending to clutch their pearls over Trump when really it's just an excuse NOT to cover actual conservative candidates.

Josh McCall ‏@JoshMcCall_ 3h3 hours ago

@Neal_Dewing @TomRtweets "Donald Trump is a racist, bigot and unconstitutional hate monger. And we'll be hearing from him after this break."

[GAJohnnie]

Again, the more they scream these absurd emotion based ad homine attacks, the stronger Trump gets. This personal attacks tweets may make the Media crowd heart beat faster with joy but they merely highlights the divide that exists, and is growing wider, between the DC Political/Media/Business class's bubble worlds emotion based ignorant knee jerk dogmas and the reality average voters are dealing with daily.

Trump is winning by running against DC Political/Media/Business class and it's emotion based, PC mindset. Meanwhile, the DC Class is doing everything it can to make sure as many Americans as possible remember daily why they loath the political class.


You all are going to elect him President you keep this up.

[flowers]

And you don't know that all immigrants coming in today want to go full sharia either. 

So your point is moot.

If you had a bowl of M&Ms and knew 10% of them were poison, would you eat any?  If we save lives by not bringing the majority of them in for a year or until 2017 that is worth it. Why not send them to Arab countries?

[sinkspur]

Again, the more they scream these absurd emotion based ad homine attacks, the stronger Trump gets. This personal attacks tweets may make the Media crowd heart beat faster with joy but they merely highlights the divide that exists, and is growing wider, between the DC Political/Media/Business class's bubble worlds emotion based ignorant knee jerk dogmas and the reality average voters are dealing with daily.

Trump is winning by running against DC Political/Media/Business class and it's emotion based, PC mindset. Meanwhile, the DC Class is doing everything it can to make sure as many Americans as possible remember daily why they loath the political class.


You all are going to elect him President you keep this up.

No "we" are not. You clowns are going to assure a Hillary presidency by backing this bigot.

[sinkspur]

If you had a bowl of M&Ms and knew 10% of them were poison, would you eat any?  If we save lives by not bringing the majority of them in for a year or until 2017 that is worth it. Why not send them to Arab countries?

From what I understand, the vetting process takes 18-24 months.  So, they wouldn't be coming in anyway.