San Bernardino Massacre Raises Significant Questions

[rangerrebew]

San Bernardino Massacre Raises Significant Questions
By Jay Sekulow16 hrs. ago

Terror struck America again this week.  While there are many more questions than answers in the early days of the ongoing investigation into the brutal massacre in San Bernardino, California - emerging details raise more concerns about protecting the homeland.

First, our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, families, brave first responders, and residents of San Bernardino in the wake of this horrific attack.

More details continue to emerge from authorities.

Fourteen people were murdered and 21 others were injured when Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik opened fire at the Inland Regional Center.

Here’s what we know:

    This attack was pre-planned with authorities saying the two were “on a mission.”

    The terrorists left their 6-month old child with grandparents.

    They walked into the meeting room and fired between 65 and 75 rounds in seconds.

    They brought with them a massive pipe bomb, designed to be detonated by a remote controlled toy car – a tactic used by radical Islamists.

    Their home was booby-trapped and officials said it resembled more of a bomb factory than a residence.

    Inside the house, 12 more pipe bombs were found along with hundreds of tools to construct bombs and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

 

The FBI has confirmed that the suspects travelled internationally.   Authorities say Farook went to Pakistan at one point and his wife was in the U.S. on a visa with a Pakistani passport. Saudi Arabia’s embassy has reportedly confirmed that Farook traveled to Saudi Arabia last year.

CNN has reported that Farook was “radicalized and in touch with people being investigated by the FBI for international terrorism.”  CBS News reports that a source said that “the pair were looking at ISIS propaganda online.”

The FBI, which is in charge of the investigation, says it has not determined a motive and is not yet in a position to label this tragic attack as “terrorism.”

Clearly this investigation is just beginning and federal investigators say they will follow the facts.

But there are many important questions being asked now:

    Were these terrorists connected to or inspired by ISIS (the Islamic State) or other radical jihadists?

    Were these terrorists radicalized? If so, how and where?

    If they were connected to international terrorists, were there intelligence gaps?  Should we have known about them before they acted?

    Who were these terrorists working with?

All important questions.  The American people are understandably on edge. They want answers.

They want to know if what happened in San Bernardino is the work of a couple of deranged residents or if it’s linked to the brutal terror campaign by radical jihadists – a terror campaign that shook the Boston Marathon in 2013 and devastated the city of Paris just a few weeks ago.

http://aclj.org/national-security/san-bernardino-massacre-raises-significant-questions-

[GAJohnnie]

What a bunch of hyprocites. After making a national idol of Islamic "Clock Boy" as a symbol of "American intolerance" the same leftist junk media types want to cry about why "didn't we catch these people before they went on their terrorist rampage"

These Leftist media clowns can look in the mirror if they want to see why these people cannot be caught PRIOR to acting.

[rangerrebew]

California gunmen said to be on US, Saudi and Pakistani watch lists
DEBKAfile December 3, 2015, 9:21 PM (IDT)

American intelligence sources said Thursday that the two perpetrators of the previous day's mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, had been designated by intelligence services as terror suspects. Farook was on a US list, while Malik had been listed by Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. The sources added that a thorough check of the detonators of the explosives used by the couple revealed that they were assembled exactly according to the instructions published in Al-Qaeda's "Inspire" magazine.
Meanwhile, police sources in San Bernardino said Thursday that a search of the basement of the couple's apartment found 12 pipe bombs, explosives for various bombs, including roadside bombs, and large amounts of ammunition for rifles and handguns.     

 http://www.debka.com/newsupdate/13982/California-gunmen-said-to-be-on-US-Saudi-and-Pakistani-watch-lists

[Oceander]

I read somewhere that these two destroyed their computers and electronics before going on their jihad.  Don't know if it's true but if it is it puts a lot more weight behind the theory that they were in constant contact with radical Islamist material online. 

One wonders if the damage done by the overreaction to the Snowden affair had any effect. 

[DCPatriot]

I say bullsh*t.

[rangerrebew]

Chris Hayes, MSNBC absolutely baffled as to SB jihadi murderer’s motive

December 4, 2015 7:21 am By Robert Spencer 14 Comments

Let’s see. He was in contact with known jihadis. He was, according to officials, “radicalized.” He frequented a mosque and had memorized the Qur’an. He had recently traveled to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Yes, his motive is utterly baffling! We may never know what it was!

“Chris Hayes & Co. Baffled By San Bernardino Motive,” by Mark Finkelstein, NewsBusters, December 3, 2015:

    Rudy Giuliani has said that if you can’t figure out that what happened in San Bernardino was an act of terror, “you’re a moron.” But from Chris Hayes, to the FBI, to a representative of the Muslim community, to a Mother Jones reporter, to President Obama himself, one thing emerged from Hayes’ MSNBC show tonight: they’re all terribly confused and cautious about what possibly could have been the “motive” of the San Bernardino shooters.

    Check out the video montage. It would be comical but for the heinous circumstances—and the unwillingness of the country’s political, media and religious leaders to call out radical Islamic terrorism when they see it.

        CHRIS HAYES: The FBI’s been very careful about attributing motive here so far, it seems they really want to make sure they’ve penetrated down to the bedrock before they come out and say anything definitive.

        PETE WILLIAMS: From the president on down. The president, the attorney general, the FBI officials here in Washington, the special agent in charge in LA, and the county and city authorities. They’re all saying much the same: we don’t know why they did it.

        . . .

        CAIR OFFICIAL: It’s mind-boggling. Really, we’re all waiting for the results of the investigation to know the real motives. What could have made someone snap like that?

        . . .

        PRESIDENT OBAMA: It’s possible that this was terrorist related. But we don’t know. It’s also possible that this was workplace related.

        CHRIS HAYES: Authorities are still trying to establish a clear motive in yesterday’s shooting rampage.

        . . .

        MARK FOLLMAN: Well, as you were just describing, Chris, the confluence of possible motive here is really fascinating, as much as this case is really horrifying. That this may have been some kind of workplace violence combined with some kind of ideological, terrorism-related

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/12/chris-hayes-msnbc-absolutely-baffled-as-to-sb-jihadi-murderers-motive

[rangerrebew]

It is obvious Hayes and MSNBC  are on an "intellectual" par with Obama - morons according to Rudy Guiliani.

[Bigun]

I say bullsh*t.

I say you are right!  They weren't on anyone's watch list!

Pure CYA here!

[Scottftlc]

"While there are many more questions than answers in the early days of the ongoing investigation into the brutal massacre in San Bernardino, California - emerging details raise more concerns about protecting the homeland."

Many more questions than answers?  Only if you are, as Giuliani so elegantly stated, a complete moron.  Every answer of importance was known within hours of the act. The rest of the "search for answers" is merely to provide excuses and give Obama and Hillary a reason to blame Americans - white Americans if possible.

[truth_seeker]

There are no townhomes in California with "basements."

[rangerrebew]

What a bunch of hyprocites. After making a national idol of Islamic "Clock Boy" as a symbol of "American intolerance" the same leftist junk media types want to cry about why "didn't we catch these people before they went on their terrorist rampage"

These Leftist media clowns can look in the mirror if they want to see why these people cannot be caught PRIOR to acting.

The MSM also withheld the names of the muzzies until AFTER CAIR COULD MAKE A STATEMENT.

[rangerrebew]

I say bullsh*t.

The Tsarnaev brothers were on their watch lists.

[Free Vulcan]

Who are they kidding? When it's even the whiff of possibility of being a 'right-winger' they jump all over it a half hour after it happens and scream: 'RIGHT WINGERS!!! RIGHT WINGERS DID THIS!!! THEY WANT TO KILL US ALL, GET RID OF ALL THE GUNS!!!'.

When an approved minority in the leftist caste system, or a self-identified leftist fellow traveler does this, it's: 'Oh gee, I'm confused, I'm so confused. I just don't understand, how could this happen, this is crazy nuts, oh my 'brain's in a blender it's jello (jello jello jello)'.

[rangerrebew]

The video I saw showed a lot of Hispanics at the scene.  So the media couldn't even claim racism when the muzzies did the killing.  This is a bitter pill for the MSM.

[Relic]

The video I saw showed a lot of Hispanics at the scene.  So the media couldn't even claim racism when the muzzies did the killing.  This is a bitter pill for the MSM.

This is a turd they can't bury, try as they might. However, just like 9/11, the memory will fade. If there are no further attacks, the country will be ready for Hillary come November.

[rangerrebew]

This is a turd they can't bury, try as they might. However, just like 9/11, the memory will fade. If there are no further attacks, the country will be ready for Hillary come November.

Muzzies are like sharks in a feeding frenzy so the attacks will continue.  There are a thousand people on the watch list and the FBI can't cover them all.

[Relic]

Muzzies are like sharks in a feeding frenzy so the attacks will continue.  There are a thousand people on the watch list and the FBI can't cover them all.

Well, if the attacks continue, Hillary has no chance.

[flowers]

I say you are right!  They weren't on anyone's watch list!

Pure CYA here!

It was said on that scanner that officials had been looking into someone Saeeeyd had been talking with a week prior.

[Fishrrman]

Bigun wrote above:
"I say you are right!  They weren't on anyone's watch list!
Pure CYA here!"

Let's assume for a moment that they WERE on a government "watch list" for potential terrorists.
(Aside: weren't the Boston bomber brothers on one, as well?)

A lot of good those so-called watch lists seem to be doin' for us, eh?

I thought privacy-invasive measures (as dictated by The Patriot Act) were supposed to protect us from such rampages.

Right?
Right....?

[Oceander]

Bigun wrote above:
"I say you are right!  They weren't on anyone's watch list!
Pure CYA here!"

Let's assume for a moment that they WERE on a government "watch list" for potential terrorists.
(Aside: weren't the Boston bomber brothers on one, as well?)

A lot of good those so-called watch lists seem to be doin' for us, eh?

I thought privacy-invasive measures (as dictated by The Patriot Act) were supposed to protect us from such rampages.

Right?
Right....?

But you see, that's just it.  These are watch lists, which means you're only allowed to watch the people on them - watch them steal, watch them kill - if you were allowed to do something about it, like stopping them, they might be called people-to-stop-lists.

[flowers]

I read somewhere that these two destroyed their computers and electronics before going on their jihad.  Don't know if it's true but if it is it puts a lot more weight behind the theory that they were in constant contact with radical Islamist material online. 

One wonders if the damage done by the overreaction to the Snowden affair had any effect.

maybe this has been answered elsewhere. True they destroyed  their computer and phones. One report I heard is she had a disposable phone on her body which had 2 calls on it.