Donald Trump: You have to take out terrorists families

[Scottftlc]

Few people were aware of the extent of the bombing at Dresden and Tokyo. And news reports were days behind.

  There is no way to hide what happens in war today and targeting specific families for killing in real time would be more problematic.   I can't imagine a country that's not comfortable with waterboarding would tolerate targeting non-combatants.  In fact, it wouldn't.

We really hid Hiroshima and Nagaski...and the fire bombing of Tokyo was on news reels playing at theaters in the day.  You seem to be a nice, fattened calf waiting to be slaughtered.  And our enemy today makes Nazis and Japanese look like choir boys - if given any chance, they will slaughter you, and their women and children will be very happy to pull the trigger or push the button or wield the knife, even though you think they are innocent widows and orphans. You've swallowed whole the leftist thinking.

[Carling]

The Hussein administration has clouded the liberal lunatics minds more so than usual with the idea that we as a nation need to be humble and more welcoming and considerate of those that mean us harm as if it is going to change their hatred and aggression towards us.  Somehow, I don't think joining hands, roasting wienies around a campfire and singing "Kumbayah" is the answer.

Liberals?  We're seeing "conservatives" here upset at Trump for actually wanting to win this war by taking out the one thing these Islamic terrorists care about.  I read in this thread the liberal talking point that hitting their families will just create more terrorists.

We're largely a soft and coddled populace these days, and we deserve what is coming to us over the next few decades unless we get a leader who will see fundamentalist Islam for what it is and has always been, and not the "Religion of Peace" lie that we've been told.

[sinkspur]

Ah, you want to fight a nice war.  That's so sweet. Merry Christmas!

Targeting innocent civilians is immoral.  There is no justification for it. 

Even in WWII, Dresden and Tokyo were about destroying ordinance factories and bombing methods were very inexact.

Today, we can target a specific house on a specific block.  So the comparisons to WWII are inapt.

[Carling]

When you become the people you hate, what does that make you?

In America's case until the end of WWII, it made us winners.

I feel like I'm reading DailyKos when I read your posts these days.

[Carling]

Thanks for making my point.

Who is your candidate?  Why won't you answer the question?

[Carling]

Targeting innocent civilians is immoral.  There is no justification for it. 

Even in WWII, Dresden and Tokyo were about destroying ordinance factories and bombing methods were very inexact.

Today, we can target a specific house on a specific block.  So the comparisons to WWII are inapt.

What were Hiroshima and Nagasaki about, then?

[Free Vulcan]

Few people were aware of the extent of the bombing at Dresden and Tokyo. And news reports were days behind.

  There is no way to hide what happens in war today and targeting specific families for killing in real time would be more problematic.   I can't imagine a country that's not comfortable with waterboarding would tolerate targeting non-combatants.  In fact, it wouldn't.

Is that what he's really saying?

[Relic]

Targeting innocent civilians is immoral.  There is no justification for it. 

Even in WWII, Dresden and Tokyo were about destroying ordinance factories and bombing methods were very inexact.

Today, we can target a specific house on a specific block.  So the comparisons to WWII are inapt.

The bombing of Berlin before D-Day was expressly to kill Germans, and demoralize the German public.

[sinkspur]

We really hid Hiroshima and Nagaski...and the fire bombing of Tokyo was on news reels playing at theaters in the day.  You seem to be a nice, fattened calf waiting to be slaughtered.  And our enemy today makes Nazis and Japanese look like choir boys - if given any chance, they will slaughter you, and their women and children will be very happy to pull the trigger or push the button or wield the knife, even though you think they are innocent widows and orphans. You've swallowed whole the leftist thinking.

So let me get this straight:  you'd happily kill the wives and children of terrorists, but you'd give three hots and a cot to the captured terrorists themselves.  Or would you shoot all those who surrender too?

[sinkspur]

Is that what he's really saying?

Yes. Killing a terrorists' family is killing non-combatants.  And Trump's son said this morning that is exactly what his father meant.

[Carling]

Killing innocent non-combatants for revenge is morally repugnant to most civilized human beings and I'm thankful for that.

You sound exactly like a liberal Democrat.  Trump has made the masks of many slip and the GOPe has been exposed.  Go vote for Hillary Bush already.

[sinkspur]

The bombing of Berlin before D-Day was expressly to kill Germans, and demoralize the German public.

And you think we should carpet bomb Fallujah today?

Where are the ISIS supporters you would want to bomb?

[Carling]

Yes. Killing a terrorists' family is killing non-combatants.  And Trump's son said this morning that is exactly what his father meant.

So the wives of the 9/11 hijackers who were flown to safety by their husbands, and who knew what was going to happen, are "non-combatants?"

[GAJohnnie]

You have to love how these Leftist propaganda bots sit in their little bubble world and spin these ridiculous fantasizes that there is some way to wage some sort of clean antiseptic war.

War is organized mass murder. It is never clean and antiseptic. Only a fool thinks otherwise.

The only reason these little Leftists drones can live in their bubble world singing their fantasies is because as someone once said

We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”

[Carling]

And you think we should carpet bomb Fallujah today?

Where are the ISIS supporters you would want to bomb?

Raqqa

Wipe the entire city out as a start.  Give them one day warning.

[Carling]

You have to love how these Leftist propaganda bots sit in their little bubble world and spin these ridiculous fantasizes that there is some way to wage some sort of clean antiseptic war.

War is organized mass murder. It is never clean and antiseptic. Only a fool thinks otherwise.

The only reason these little Leftists drones can live in their bubble world singing their fantasies is because as someone once said

We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”

Trump has made the mask slip off of some posters here.  Sinkspur sounds exactly like a MSNBC host these days, as an example.  He's against tax credits for new construction, he's following Obama's ROE for the military ... It's fascinating to see how similar establishment GOP supporters like sinkspur really are to Democrats when the going gets tough for them.

[EdinVA]

Killing innocent non-combatants for revenge is morally repugnant to most civilized human beings and I'm thankful for that.

So, do all of the non-combatants wear white shirts so we know who not to shoot....?
Define innocent?  Attends mosk and pays a tithing (or whatever they call it) which goes to jihad joe?  Provides food and shelter to combatants and does not tell anyone?
Non-combantant today? this minute? When do you classify someone as a non-combatant?  Just because they don't have a gun right this minute does not mean they are non-combatants...

[Free Vulcan]

Yes. Killing a terrorists' family is killing non-combatants.  And Trump's son said this morning that is exactly what his father meant.

You are completely disingenuous and word twisting to your agenda. Are we talking about bombing targets where civilians are, or sending special ops to specifically target women and children. One is completely different from the other.

[sinkspur]

You are completely disingenuous and word twisting to your agenda. Are we talking about bombing targets where civilians are, or sending special ops to specifically target women and children. One is completely different from the other.

Ask Trump. I'm sure he'll tell you whatever you want to hear.

[sinkspur]

So, do all of the non-combatants wear white shirts so we know who not to shoot....?
Define innocent?  Attends mosk and pays a tithing (or whatever they call it) which goes to jihad joe?  Provides food and shelter to combatants and does not tell anyone?
Non-combantant today? this minute? When do you classify someone as a non-combatant?  Just because they don't have a gun right this minute does not mean they are non-combatants...

A six year old is not a combatant.

[aligncare]

Killing innocent non-combatants for revenge is morally repugnant to most civilized human beings and I'm thankful for that.

Let me get this straight. Your position is, if the raid on Osama bin Laden had been impossible by means of special forces assassination, and the only way to have taken out the most wanted man in the world was to blow up the entire compound, innocent women, children, relatives, housekeepers, attendants and all, that you, as president, would not have pulled the trigger?

Good thing you're not president. Okay, absurd statement. Even you would be a better president than Obama.

[Free Vulcan]

Ask Trump. I'm sure he'll tell you whatever you want to hear.

You tell us, you seem to know. Or are you dancing on a different foot now, twisting phrases for Pyrrhic victories?

[sinkspur]

Let me get this straight. Your position is, if the raid on Osama bin Laden had been impossible by means of special forces assassination, and the only way to have taken out the most wanted man in the world was to blow up the entire compound, innocent women, children, relatives, housekeepers, attendants and all, that you, as president, would not have pulled the trigger?

Good thing you're not president. Okay, absurd statement. Even you would be a better president than Obama.

No I wouldn't have.  Neither would Obama and Bush wouldn't have either.   

I'm really glad you hotshots aren't in charge of anything.  You wouldn't be for long.

[sinkspur]

You tell us, you seem to know. Or are you dancing on a different foot now, twisting phrases for Pyrrhic victories?

Trump said he would take out the families of terrorists.  His son said that's what he meant.  Is Trump not clear enough for you?

[aligncare]

We really hid Hiroshima and Nagaski...and the fire bombing of Tokyo was on news reels playing at theaters in the day.  You seem to be a nice, fattened calf waiting to be slaughtered.  And our enemy today makes Nazis and Japanese look like choir boys - if given any chance, they will slaughter you, and their women and children will be very happy to pull the trigger or push the button or wield the knife, even though you think they are innocent widows and orphans. You've swallowed whole the leftist thinking.

The only reason sink spur 's taking this position is because Donald Trump said it. Period. End of chapter verse and book.