RINOS UNITE! - GOP Establishment to back Hillary if Trump nominee

[aligncare]

Month and year of registration Party affiliation
July 1987.                                   Republican
October 1999.                          Independence Party
August 2001.                                Democrat
September 2009.                          Republican
December 2011.               No party affiliation (independent)
April 2012.                                   Republican


"We don’t need to go back as far as 1987 for this check, of course, but it shows Trump has switched quite a bit. After 12 years as a Republican, he registered with the Independence Party in 1999. That moved Trump to New York’s version of the Reform Party, which is neither Democratic nor Republican. He even won the Reform Party’s California primary for president in March 2000, despite withdrawing from that contest."

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/aug/24/jeb-bush/bush-says-trump-was-democrat-longer-republican-las/

[EdinVA]

Please refrain from using this word in connection with any politician...

Can we use the first 3 letters?   

[DCPatriot]

I concede that he may have registered as a Republican in 2009 (7 short years ago), but that was the same year he supported Obama's stimulus package.

How many actual Republicans you know did that, aligncare?

And how many Republicans/Conservatives do you know who support single payer government health care?

He's a Democrat.

Perhaps.   But he's not an Alinsky Marxist Socialist like the other 'guy' we're being given.

And Reagan was a Democrat too.

I'm going to wait and see during the general.  I'll put money on it that Trump will have a similar "I didn't leave the Democrat Party.  THEY left me".

[aligncare]

Score:

Republican or Independent = 22+ years
Democrat                          = 8 years

(for some reason this seems to matter to some people)

[EdinVA]

"We don’t need to go back as far as 1987 for this check, of course, but it shows Trump has switched quite a bit. After 12 years as a Republican, he registered with the Independence Party in 1999. That moved Trump to New York’s version of the Reform Party, which is neither Democratic nor Republican. He even won the Reform Party’s California primary for president in March 2000, despite withdrawing from that contest."

I would suspect that if you examined ANY successful business owner you would see similar trends, that is why they are successful, they adapt which seems to to be an unpalatable trait with some.

[musiclady]

Month and year of registration Party affiliation
July 1987.                                   Republican
October 1999.                          Independence Party
August 2001.                                Democrat
September 2009.                          Republican
December 2011.               No party affiliation (independent)
April 2012.                                   Republican


"We don’t need to go back as far as 1987 for this check, of course, but it shows Trump has switched quite a bit. After 12 years as a Republican, he registered with the Independence Party in 1999. That moved Trump to New York’s version of the Reform Party, which is neither Democratic nor Republican. He even won the Reform Party’s California primary for president in March 2000, despite withdrawing from that contest."

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/aug/24/jeb-bush/bush-says-trump-was-democrat-longer-republican-las/

None of that changes the fact that he's a liberal who supports massive government health care (as recently as the debate this past summer), praised the Stimulus package, praised Bill Clinton as a great president and voted for Obama.

He's NOT a Republican.  Republicans don't do any of those things.

[aligncare]

And if you read the article, Trump gives the reason for his "Democrat" years... (Not that I expect his detractors to care or even read the article)

[musiclady]

I would suspect that if you examined ANY successful business owner you would see similar trends, that is why they are successful, they adapt which seems to to be an unpalatable trait with some.

Praising Bill Clinton and supporting Obama's policies should be unpalatable to any Conservative/Republican.

[musiclady]

And if you read the article, Trump gives the reason for his "Democrat" years... (Not that I expect his detractors to care or even read the article)

The reason I'm a "detractor" is because I've listened to him supporting leftist causes in the past 10 years.

And I don't support ANY liberal.

[DCPatriot]

Score:

Republican or Independent = 22+ years
Democrat                          = 8 years

(for some reason this seems to matter to some people)

Playing Sherlock Holmes.....seems to me the evidence says that he hated George W. Bush.  He was only a Democrat during those two administrations.

[aligncare]

One last thing. I supported Democrats from 1969 to 1988, after which I voted straight Republican.

Now I'm more libertarian and independent minded. I also like the tea party and eschew the GOPe.

[EdinVA]

None of that changes the fact that he's a liberal who supports massive government health care (as recently as the debate this past summer), praised the Stimulus package, praised Bill Clinton as a great president and voted for Obama.

He's NOT a Republican.  Republicans don't do any of those things.

Boehner Praises Signing of Bipartisan Economic Stimulus Plan - See more at: http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/boehner-praises-signing-bipartisan-economic-stimulus-plan#sthash.1AydA5cg.dpufBoehner Praises Signing of Bipartisan Economic Stimulus
“Getting our economy moving again is critically important, and the bipartisan legislation signed into law today is a good step in the right direction. 

[aligncare]

Playing Sherlock Holmes.....seems to me the evidence says that he hated George W. Bush.  He was only a Democrat during those two administrations.

I've said it before, Donald Trump is not a Democrat he's a businessman. There's a difference.

[musiclady]

Boehner Praises Signing of Bipartisan Economic Stimulus Plan - See more at: http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/boehner-praises-signing-bipartisan-economic-stimulus-plan#sthash.1AydA5cg.dpufBoehner Praises Signing of Bipartisan Economic Stimulus
“Getting our economy moving again is critically important, and the bipartisan legislation signed into law today is a good step in the right direction.

Boehner?? LOL!

[musiclady]

One last thing. I supported Democrats from 1969 to 1988, after which I voted straight Republican.

Now I'm more libertarian and independent minded. I also like the tea party and eschew the GOPe.

You'll be interested in knowing then, that Trump is losing with the Tea Party/Conservatives in Iowa, and winning with the GOPe supporters.

[EdinVA]

Praising Bill Clinton and supporting Obama's policies should be unpalatable to any Conservative/Republican.

ML, if you are in business, especially if your goal is to create a big business, your business becomes your wife, your kids and your mother all rolled into one because all of those people rely on that business and you will publicly adopt whatever position will keep that business healthy.  If you need cheap labor, you go find it.  If you need better access to raw materials, you go find it.  If patting a jerk on the back and telling them how great they are gets you the next contract, you do it.

Not saying I agree with it or even like it but that is just they way these guys roll.

[sinkspur]

ML, if you are in business, especially if your goal is to create a big business, your business becomes your wife, your kids and your mother all rolled into one because all of those people rely on that business and you will publicly adopt whatever position will keep that business healthy.  If you need cheap labor, you go find it.  If you need better access to raw materials, you go find it.  If patting a jerk on the back and telling them how great they are gets you the next contract, you do it.

Not saying I agree with it or even like it but that is just they way these guys roll.

And that's justification for putting an unprincipled businessman, however successful, in the White House?  That's why it's ludicrous to even consider a person with no political experience for the highest office in the land.

Look at what we have now.  And you want somebody with even LESS experience with an even bigger ego?

[EdinVA]

And that's justification for putting an unprincipled businessman, however successful, in the White House?  That's why it's ludicrous to even consider a person with no political experience for the highest office in the land.

Look at what we have now.  And you want somebody with even LESS experience with an even bigger ego?

Unprincipled?  Is that an opinion or do you have facts to back that up?
No political experience?  He has had to negotiate with dictators, kings, legislators and presidents to build consensus to grow his business... and has been quite successful with it... What has Bush done?
If you really believe that the other candidates do not have an equivalent ego I want some of whatever your taking.... They are just to PC and afraid to stand tall and put themselves out for a media bashing...

[sinkspur]

Unprincipled?  Is that an opinion or do you have facts to back that up?
No political experience?  He has had to negotiate with dictators, kings, legislators and presidents to build consensus to grow his business... and has been quite successful with it... What has Bush done?
If you really believe that the other candidates do not have an equivalent ego I want some of whatever your taking.... They are just to PC and afraid to stand tall and put themselves out for a media bashing...

Yes, unprincipled.  You said it yourself.  He has had to kiss every political butt in New York and other places and he will do whatever he has to do and say whatever he has to say to get the business.

If that's not unprincipled, I don't know what is.

"Nobody has a bigger ego than me, EdinVA. I have the biggest ego of all time".

[aligncare]

Unprincipled?  Is that an opinion or do you have facts to back that up?
No political experience?  He has had to negotiate with dictators, kings, legislators and presidents to build consensus to grow his business... and has been quite successful with it... What has Bush done?
If you really believe that the other candidates do not have an equivalent ego I want some of whatever your taking.... They are just to PC and afraid to stand tall and put themselves out for a media bashing...

I just listened to an interview with Trump.

One line that stuck out was when Trump said he's never been a politician but he's had to deal with them his entire career.

One example. After proposing to build a golf course in Scotland Trump encountered fierce opposition from every level of Scottish government, national and local, and from environmental and special interest groups. However, after negotiations, Trump won them over and the course was completed. And now Trump International Golf Links, Aberdeen is an outstanding championship links course recently ranked by Golf World as one of the best golf courses in the world.

[EC]

That'd be the golf course that created 200 jobs rather than the promised 6000, that left the local residents without water for years, and has NEVER turned a profit then? And that is currently back in the news because The Donald is trying to block a wind farm off the coast there and is complaining that he can't get a fair hearing in the Scottish courts?

Alrighty then. 

If you are going to pick an example of his international chops, you might want to pick a successful one ....

[EdinVA]

That'd be the golf course that created 200 jobs rather than the promised 6000, that left the local residents without water for years, and has NEVER turned a profit then? And that is currently back in the news because The Donald is trying to block a wind farm off the coast there and is complaining that he can't get a fair hearing in the Scottish courts?

Alrighty then. 

If you are going to pick an example of his international chops, you might want to pick a successful one ....

EC, I cannot find anything on the web to backup your assertions, except that he is battling the windfarm...
If you have any links to share I am interested....

[EC]

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-bullied-a-90-year-old-woman-over-scottish-golf-course-2015-6?r=US&IR=T

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/business/scotland-business/715934/trumps-aberdeen-golf-course-investment-narrows-losses/

There's two to be going on with.

We don't like the Scots much (at all) so we do tend to hear ALL about them.

[sinkspur]

Trump' $550 million golf empire may be in the weeds, say experts

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/23/trumps-550m-golf-empire-may-be-in-the-weeds-experts.html

[truth_seeker]

I've said it before, Donald Trump is not a Democrat he's a businessman. There's a difference.

Democrat is a political philosophy. Businessman is an occupation.