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Obama: Not Bringing ISIS Jihadists to America Would "Betray Our Values"
We should not "somehow start equating the issue of refugees with the issue of terrorism.”
November 16, 2015
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Also not freeing Al Qaeda terrorists from Gitmo would violate our values. And describing Islamic terrorism as Islamic terrorism would really violate our values.

It seems as if Obama's version of American values is a little hard to tell apart from ISIS values. Right down to locking up a filmmaker who made a YouTube video about Mohammed.

Speaking to reporters from Islamic Turkey, a regime which has made it illegal to even discuss its own genocide and which sponsors Islamic terrorists around the world, Obama got on his high horse over the huge numbers of Syrian Muslim migrants he wants to import to America.

But not before making a bunch of excuses for his own incompetence.

"It's not their sophistication or the particular weaponry that they possess, but it is the ideology they carry with them and their willingness to die," Obama whined.

That would be the ideology whose name the administration is unwilling to speak. But ISIS would need much better weaponry if Europe and America didn't insist on importing its fighters into their countries. Once there all they need is a gun or a homemade bomb to wreak havoc.

This is a war where we're inviting in our own invaders. And Obama doubled down on keeping the invasion going.

"Slamming the door in their faces would be a betrayal of our values. Our nations can welcome refugees who are desperately seeking safety and ensure our own security. We can and must do both," Obama promised.

Except we can't do both. 9/11 and the World Trade Center bombing and the Boston Marathon bombing showed that. As well as the countless smaller terror plots since then.

Then Obama rejected the idea of focusing on helping persecuted Christians over the violent Islamic Supremacist majority. "When I hear folks say that, well, maybe we should just admit the Christians but not the Muslims, when I hear political leaders suggesting that there would be a religious test for which person who's fleeing from a war-torn country is admitted, when some of those folks themselves come from families who benefited from protection when they were fleeing political persecution, that's shameful. That's not American. That’s not who we are. We don’t have religious tests to our compassion."

Actually Obama does. It's why his regime has been deporting Christians while taking in huge numbers of Muslims.

If we're taking in refugees, we should be taking in those who genuinely have nowhere else to go in a region dominated by Muslim countries. Sunni or Shiite Muslims have their own countries they can go to.

They are not refugees.

During WW2, the United States did not admit Nazis, moderate or otherwise, as refugees. That would have been ridiculously stupid. Syria is in the middle of a religious civil war between Sunnis and Shiites. Neither side are victims. They are both perpetrators of massacres toward each other.

Obama claims that we should not "somehow start equating the issue of refugees with the issue of terrorism.”

The "somehow" part comes because refugees are an entrance point for terrorists and terrorism. It's not "somehow". It's directly causative.

While Obama bleats about compassion, his compassion has been utterly lacking when it comes to persecuted Christians. He only has compassion for Muslims.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260813/obama-not-bringing-isis-jihadists-america-would-daniel-greenfield
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Based on this logic, he would have had no problems bringing nazis to America as long as they claimed refugee status. :peeonobama:

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Obama's Disastrous Press Conference
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The full grim spectacle is here; RedState's Streiff (who asks, "How disastrous was Obama's press conference?") offers his thoughts and a two minute clip which shows Obama's usual petulance when he is proven wrong, yet again.

Twitchy documents the live reaction to the presser, in which the press, for once, did not have Obama's act. In fact, they seemed to have his ass, asking the same question over and over, which annoyed him greatly, because he wouldn't actually answer it in any sensible way.

A man who keeps offering the same empty answers -- "allies have to step up," "a warped ideology on the wrong side of history," "contrary to our values," etc. -- cannot complain this petulantly about being asked the same questions.

The other thing people noticed is that Obama gave his typical bloodless "I'd rather be golfing" sort of listless drone about the dead of Paris and his alleged enemies in ISIS, but then, as usual, became interested and emotionally engaged when he was asked about his real enemies, Republicans and Americans.


Obama also re-stated what had already been put out over the weekend: That there would be no shift in our strategy in Syria. As they say in government, don't fix what's not working.

He also, incredibly, declared that he didn't believe he had shown "any [previous] hesitation to act."

He's a remarkable man, in all the wrong ways. He is the apotheosis of progressivism, the avatar and godling that is the living embodiment of all their cowardices, lies, hypocrisies, self-flatteries, and stupidities.

One self-flattery they're fond of is claiming they have "evidence-based" reasoning, not ideology-based reasoning, and that their minds are supple things that readily incorporate new information and plot new strategies accordingly.

Obama is the ultimate exemplar of this fiction. He claims that he's always interested in "whatever works" and he's constantly engaging in high-level cognition about the world, and yet no matter what the news, no matter how badly his strategies and ideological priors have been shown to fail, he clings to them with the devotion of a child to his woobie.

The 8-strikes-a-day "strategy" to defeat ISIS? Complete failure. So we're sticking to that.

Bringing in 10,000 Syrian refugees, despite having no way to vet them and despite two such refugees participating in the Paris attacks? Complete failure. So we're sticking to that.

And on, and on, and on.

And all he can do is repeat the rote words, "twisted ideology" and "wrong side of history."

This is progressivism's greatest mind showing all its supple neuroelectric brilliance?

This pathetic Chatty Cathy programmed to only say six different things, no matter what the input?

Quoting David French again: Obama should not be the president of the United States. He was born to be the president of Oberlin College's department of diversity studies.

He views the world as nothing but a series of petty faculty squabbles and cannot conceive of murder and slaughter having any more meaning that someone shit-talking him in the faculty lounge.

    Behold, the beautiful and delicate rhetorical stylings of our cultural and political elite. They’re the improvisational jazz musicians of American diplomacy, always ready with just the right word to solidify alliances, avoid unnecessary confrontation, and reassure Americans they know exactly what they’re doing in the face of bloody violence. This is what happens when the academic Left runs American foreign policy.

    For those who’ve lived under a rock for the past four-plus decades, the American academy has been characterized by two prime impulses: one substantive, the other stylistic. First, there's the substantive claim that the problems of the world can largely -- if not entirely -- be traced back to America’s sins and the sins of our Western allies, most notably Israel. These sins have caused the peoples of the world to accumulate a long list of "legitimate grievances," and the problem of anti-American or anti-Israeli violence is therefore best dealt with by dealing with the underlying grievance.

    Thus the fury at George Bush and the steadfast belief that it was American foreign policy and not a particular strain of Islamic theology that fanned the fires of jihad. Thus the fury at Israel when it asserts its right of self-defense, even to the point of blaming the rise of the Islamic State on Israeli/Palestinian relations, when the Islamic State is fighting its wars against Shiites, Kurds, Yazidis, and Americans.

    Next, there's the sophomoric, malicious style of campus rhetoric, where stigma is the preferred method of argument. It’s hard to overstate the propensity towards name-calling even of "elite" academics, and the culture of the academy is one where groupthink is enforced and reinforced through vicious rhetoric. Their opponents can’t be merely wrong. Instead they are racist, bigoted, homophobic, or -- despite professed love of the disabled -- "Aspergery."

    The arrogance is overwhelming, and the fake tough-guy posture of name-calling elitists is laughable to everyone but themselves.

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In Wake of Muslim Terrorist Attack, Obama Pretends It Wasn't a Muslim Terrorist Attack!

By Tim Brown / 16 November 2015 / 0 Comments

 
Following Friday evenings attacks in Paris, Barack Hussein Obama stepped in front of the mic to once again cover for Islam. "I don't want to speculate at this point in terms of who was responsible for this."

Well, why not Hussein? Several witnesses said they heard some of the men shouting "Allahu Akbar!" There is only one ideology that utters such blasphemy before engaging in the murder of the infidels, just one… Islam.

"I'm sure that in the days ahead we'll learn more about exactly what happened, and my teams will make sure that we are in communication with the press to provide you accurate information," Obama said.  "I don't want to speculate at this point in terms of who was responsible for this.  It appears that there may still be live activity and dangers that are taking place as we speak.  And so until we know from French officials that the situation is under control, and we have for more information about it, I don't want to speculate."

Obama has never, not once, mentioned Islam as being in the business of terrorism, despite their founder Muhammad being known for engaging in terror and the 1,400 year track record of Islam being one of terror. In fact, I don't think he is capable of uttering the words "Islamic terrorism," and he certainly does not believe the world is at war with his beloved Islam. Yet, it has been his administration training, arming and funding these savages.

But Muhammad thought much differently as he penned the words of the Quran.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".  This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"  No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

obama islamEven those who wrote the Hadiths back what Muhammad wrote and did.

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)."  In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy.  This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

Bukhari (52:65) - The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause.  Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad - spreading Islam by force.  This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

However, it seems the President of France is not siding with Obama. Francois Hollande not only closed the borders of France to Muslim migrants pouring into his country, but also said that France was going to lead the war.

"It will be pitiless," he said.

Hollande said:

“It is an act of war that was committed by a terrorist army, a jihadist army, Daesh, against France. It is an act of war that was prepared, organized and planned from abroad, with complicity from the inside, which the investigation will help establish.”

He called for a united France.

I'm all for dealing with things in our own country as defensive measures, but to be honest, the measures we've been engaged in over the past 15 years in the Middle East, and even before have only brought us into more debt and loss of life. Walid Phares rightly pointed out in his book Future Jihad that we have learned nothing from the previous Arab-Byzantine Wars when dealing with these people, as the empire spent itself into oblivion and was unable to stop the establishment of the third caliphate.

We would do well to deal with Islam inside our borders, just as France is saying it will do before we get to the point we are unable to deal with it. That means we are going to have to take a serious look at the fact that it is a political ideology, much like Marxism, which is the enemy of America, freedom and Christianity, and we're going to have to call it what it is and deal with it appropriately.

 
 http://eaglerising.com/26336/in-wake-of-muslim-terrorist-attack-obama-pretends-it-wasnt-a-muslim-terrorist-attack/

 
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Obama Admin Plans to Accelerate Acceptance of Syrian Refugees
 

Just since September ISIS has attacked Yemen, Egypt, Lebanon and most recently France. You would think all these attacks would change the logic of Obama’s administration for inviting more Syrian Refugees into America. Think again.

 
In a story in the New York Post:

The administration is going ahead with its plan to admit thousands of Syrian refugees into the US despite the horrific attack in Paris — where at least one of the attackers is believed to have posed as a Syrian migrant to get into the country.

“We’re still planning to take in Syrian refugees,” White House national Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told “Fox News Sunday.”

Rhodes, who is traveling with President Obama in Turkey, said there would be “very robust vetting” to “sort out that foreign fighter flow.”

Referring to refugees, he said: “They are tragic victims of this conflict. They are women and children and orphans of this war.”

Rhodes said the “careful” vetting would rely on input from “our intelligence community, our national Counterterrorism Center, the Department of Homeland Security, so we can make sure that we’re carefully screening anybody who comes to the United States.”

He made those statements on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

US Rep. Pete King (R-LI), former Chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, blasted the move as dangerous.

“There is virtually no vetting because there are no databases in Syria,” he told Fox.

“We don’t know who those people are. … They are rolling the dice here, and we know that ISIS wants to bring in terrorists with these refugees.”

So never mind that the former Chair of the House Homeland Security Committee finds bringing in additional Syrian refugees dangerous. Never mind that several Republican candidates for president including Donald Trump, Sen. Marco Rubio, Sen. Ted Cruz, and Governor Huckabee have asked for a halt on any plans to bring additional refugees in. Never mind that the FBI Director, James Comey explicitly warned Congress in a hearing last month the U.S. does not have the ability to screen Syrian refugees because data on their background history does not exist.

Now even governors are speaking out against Syrian refugees as well, including Governor Rick Snyder.

Governor Snyder stated:

 “Michigan is a welcoming state and we are proud of our rich history of immigration,” Snyder said in the statement. “But our first priority is protecting the safety of our residents.”

Amen, Governor Snyder. You are absolutely correct. We re proud of our rich history of immigration and our first priority is protecting our residents. The FBI and DHS have stated that there is NO real vetting process for Syrian refugees unless of course, you consider the process of giving your name and age a REAL vetting process.

All that I have to say is, wouldn’t it have been nice for the American people to hear these exact words from our president instead of a governor. Never mind we get it. Too bad Obama doesn’t.

#WakeUpAmerica

Written by Nancy Hayes

http://joeforamerica.com/2015/11/obama-admin-plans-accelerate-acceptance-syrian-refugees/
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Obama On His ISIS Strategy: I’m Not Interested In ‘American Leadership, Or America Winning’
 
Obama On His ISIS Strategy: I’m Not Interested In ‘American Leadership, Or America Winning’
November 16, 2015 By The Federalist Staff

During a press conference detailing his administration’s strategy to destroy ISIS following several devastating terrorist attacks in Paris, President Barack Obama said he’s not interested in “pursuing some notion of American leadership or America winning[.]”

Obama’s remarks came several days after ISIS attacks in Paris that killed over 120 people and injured scores of others. Friday night’s attacks on France are believed to be the deadliest terrorist attacks in the country’s history.

Throughout Monday’s press conference, Obama insisted that his strategy for defeating ISIS was working and did not need to change. On Friday, just hours before the deadly Paris attacks, the president insisted in a television interview with ABC News that his administration had “contained” ISIS.

Obama’s tone during Monday’s press conference alternated between defensive and disinterested. The two-term Democratic president repeatedly insisted that his strategy was working and scoffed at demands to change his plan to confront and defeat ISIS.

“What I’m not interested in doing is posing or pursuing some notion of American leadership or America winning or whatever other slogans they come up with that has no relationship to what is actually going to work to protect the American people and to protect the people in the region who are getting killed and to protect our allies and people like France,” Obama said. “I’m too busy for that.”

To prove that he was on top of the terrorist threat, Obama noted that he regularly meets with his national security team to review and respond to ongoing threats against the U.S.

“Every few weeks I meet with my entire National Security team,” Obama told the crowd of reporters.

Towards the end of the press conference, Obama shifted away from ISIS and targeted Republicans instead. He specifically attacked Senators Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) for opposing Obama’s policy of allowing refugees from Syria to enter the U.S. The latest intelligence out of France suggests that at least one of the attackers responsible for Friday’s terrorist attacks in Paris entered Europe as a refugee from Syria.

Immediately following Friday’s attacks, French President Francois Hollande announced that France would close its borders to prevent additional terrorists from slipping into the country.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/16/obama-on-isis-im-not-interested-in-american-leadership-or-america-winning/
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Obama and the Office of the Petulancy, by Jon Gabriel.
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It’s difficult to overstate how poorly Barack Obama performed at Monday’s press conference from the G20 summit in Antalya, Turkey. As France deals with the aftermath of an ISIS attack leaving 132 dead (so far), hundreds wounded, and thousands of lives shattered, the ersatz leader of the free world responded with an embarrassing display of indifference, peevishness, and open contempt. He was less “President Obama” and more “Petulant Obama.”

As reporters lobbed obvious questions about Obama’s dismissive description of ISIS as a JV team, his broken promise to degrade and destroy the group, and the massive intelligence failure that rocked Europe, he seemed annoyed at all the fuss.

“There will be setbacks and there will be successes,” Obama said calmly. “The terrible events in Paris were a terrible and sickening setback.”

“Setback.” Many are shocked to see the US president use such a bloodless term for such a bloody war crime, but this was no improvisation. It was part of Obama’s prepared opening statement.

He quickly shifted to happy talk. “Even as we grieve with our French friends, however, we can’t lose sight that there has been progress being made.” American flags are at half-staff. We’re working closely with our French partners. A new agreement will streamline processes.

The bureaucratic boredom with which Obama delivered the lines was reminiscent of Michael Dukakis airily dismissing a debate hypothetical in which his wife was raped and murdered. Yes, Paris is a setback but we’ve lowered our flags. Next question. ...
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