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Cruz's silent super PACs a growing worry for campaign
« on: November 04, 2015, 03:55:22 pm »
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ted-cruz-silent-super-pacs-2016-215422#ixzz3qMb04Xce

Cruz's silent super PACs a growing worry for campaign
Four pro-Cruz super PACs are sitting on huge sums of money, but have run virtually no TV ads so far.

By Shane Goldmacher
11/02/15 05:08 AM EST

The super PACs backing Sen. Ted Cruz’s presidential run have yet to reserve any TV time in the early primary states — or anywhere else — despite a combined $38 million war chest that ranks second among presidential contenders only to Jeb Bush’s $103 million operation.

The total absence of ads has created confusion and growing consternation inside the Cruz campaign, which cannot legally communicate with its allied super PACs and has had to watch as its rivals lock in tens of millions of dollars in ads before prices spike, as they typically do as elections near.

“I assume they’re waiting so their media buyers make the highest commission,” one Cruz adviser quipped.

While most 2016 candidates have one main super PAC backing them, the Cruz super PACS are a decentralized alliance of four independent but interconnected operations, each called some version of “Keep the Promise.” People familiar with the groups say they were designed that way to cater to the different big donors funding them.

Hedge fund manager Robert Mercer gave $11 million to one. Energy investor Toby Neugebauer gave $10 million to another. And the families of Dan and Farris Wilks, brothers who became billionaires in the Texas fracking boom, gave $15 million to a third.

Despite those huge sums, virtually no Cruz TV ads have aired (a single ad ran during the Iowa-Iowa State football game in September) and no time has been reserved. In contrast, outside groups backing Sen. Marco Rubio and Bush are sitting on more than $50 million in reservations through the primaries, according to media trackers. Plus, millions in pro-Bush, pro-John Kasich, pro-Chris Christie and pro-Bobby Jindal ads have already aired.

Laura Barnett, spokeswoman for the Keep for Promise alliance, said booking TV time was “totally not even on my radar.”

“Based on the response from [last week’s] debate, where Sen. Cruz talked about what the moderators were asking and the questions they were posing to the candidates, we’ve seen a tremendous amount of earned media,” Barnett said. “We’re going to ride that wave as long as we can.”

Cruz is trying to establish himself as a top conservative contender for the nomination, but he will likely eventually need some cover on the airwaves from his super PACs.

Kellyanne Conway, who runs the Mercer-funded Keep the Promise I group, said some TV ads are in production and brushed aside talk of limited inventory or spiking prices. Her group, she noted, is already airing more targeted radio ads on conservative talk and Christian radio, as part of a $1 million buy through the end of the year. It is doing digital ads, as well.

“I can reserve money [for TV ads] when I hang up with you,” she said.

But the price difference for super PACs, especially those that wait, can be enormous. On KCCI in Des Moines, for instance, Rubio’s campaign has reserved a 30-second spot on the 10 p.m. evening news the Friday before the Iowa caucuses for $750, Federal Communications Commission records show. Bush’s super PAC has reserved a 30-second ad on the same broadcast for $5,000 because there are no federal limits on what super PACs can be charged. And the super PAC ad rate is almost universally expected to rise.

“I don’t need to be defensive. I’m sitting on lots of money, and I intend to spend every last dollar of it,” Conway added. She said the goal was to be more surgical, spending on digital, cable, direct mail and radio, in addition to TV. She pointed to the Bush super PAC, which has spent more than $10 million already on ads. “Where has that gotten them?” she asked. “They did move, but they moved down.”

Conway’s group has been far more active than the other pro-Cruz groups. Keep the Promise II and III, which have $25 million between them, have so far reported spending less than $50,000 on independent expenditures to help the Texas senator. David Barton, an influential evangelical leader, is also involved in setting the strategy for the Cruz super PACs but was unavailable for an interview.

The super PACs backing Sen. Ted Cruz’s presidential run have yet to reserve any TV time in the early primary states — or anywhere else — despite a combined $38 million war chest that ranks second among presidential contenders only to Jeb Bush’s $103 million operation.

The total absence of ads has created confusion and growing consternation inside the Cruz campaign, which cannot legally communicate with its allied super PACs and has had to watch as its rivals lock in tens of millions of dollars in ads before prices spike, as they typically do as elections near.

“I assume they’re waiting so their media buyers make the highest commission,” one Cruz adviser quipped.

While most 2016 candidates have one main super PAC backing them, the Cruz super PACS are a decentralized alliance of four independent but interconnected operations, each called some version of “Keep the Promise.” People familiar with the groups say they were designed that way to cater to the different big donors funding them.

Hedge fund manager Robert Mercer gave $11 million to one. Energy investor Toby Neugebauer gave $10 million to another. And the families of Dan and Farris Wilks, brothers who became billionaires in the Texas fracking boom, gave $15 million to a third.

Despite those huge sums, virtually no Cruz TV ads have aired (a single ad ran during the Iowa-Iowa State football game in September) and no time has been reserved. In contrast, outside groups backing Sen. Marco Rubio and Bush are sitting on more than $50 million in reservations through the primaries, according to media trackers. Plus, millions in pro-Bush, pro-John Kasich, pro-Chris Christie and pro-Bobby Jindal ads have already aired.

Laura Barnett, spokeswoman for the Keep for Promise alliance, said booking TV time was “totally not even on my radar.”

“Based on the response from [last week’s] debate, where Sen. Cruz talked about what the moderators were asking and the questions they were posing to the candidates, we’ve seen a tremendous amount of earned media,” Barnett said. “We’re going to ride that wave as long as we can.”

Cruz is trying to establish himself as a top conservative contender for the nomination, but he will likely eventually need some cover on the airwaves from his super PACs.

Kellyanne Conway, who runs the Mercer-funded Keep the Promise I group, said some TV ads are in production and brushed aside talk of limited inventory or spiking prices. Her group, she noted, is already airing more targeted radio ads on conservative talk and Christian radio, as part of a $1 million buy through the end of the year. It is doing digital ads, as well.

“I can reserve money [for TV ads] when I hang up with you,” she said.

But the price difference for super PACs, especially those that wait, can be enormous. On KCCI in Des Moines, for instance, Rubio’s campaign has reserved a 30-second spot on the 10 p.m. evening news the Friday before the Iowa caucuses for $750, Federal Communications Commission records show. Bush’s super PAC has reserved a 30-second ad on the same broadcast for $5,000 because there are no federal limits on what super PACs can be charged. And the super PAC ad rate is almost universally expected to rise.

“I don’t need to be defensive. I’m sitting on lots of money, and I intend to spend every last dollar of it,” Conway added. She said the goal was to be more surgical, spending on digital, cable, direct mail and radio, in addition to TV. She pointed to the Bush super PAC, which has spent more than $10 million already on ads. “Where has that gotten them?” she asked. “They did move, but they moved down.”

Conway’s group has been far more active than the other pro-Cruz groups. Keep the Promise II and III, which have $25 million between them, have so far reported spending less than $50,000 on independent expenditures to help the Texas senator. David Barton, an influential evangelical leader, is also involved in setting the strategy for the Cruz super PACs but was unavailable for an interview.

An internal document from the Cruz super PACs suggests they did not originally intend to wait so long to go on air. A PowerPoint presentation appealing to donors, posted on the group’s website over the summer and since taken offline, said that Keep the Promise would roll “out a positive campaign in key primary states around the first debate.”

That never happened.

The same presentation warned that “television rates start to skyrocket in December making it impossible for candidates to define themselves and their views so therefore are defined by the Media.”

Cruz’s campaign has tried to send signals to the super PACs in the hopes that they would air ads to introduce Cruz to the electorate. Over the summer, the campaign posted on YouTube hours of unedited, glowing testimonials from Cruz’s family telling soft-focus stories about a senator known mostly for his stridency. It amounted to a public plea for the super PACs to use the footage. Yet no such ads have aired.

“If they don’t, we will,” another Cruz official said of using the footage in introductory ads. “We’re going to tell some of those stories, not just the footage that we put out but footage that we shot here recently. We’re going to tell that story.”

Conway said her group had looked into using the video clips — “I love that footage,” she said — but ran into legal issues. In an era in which numerous campaigns are driving aggressively through loopholes in campaign finance law, the lawyers at least at Cruz’s super PAC tapped the brakes. Larry Levy, an attorney for Keep the Promise I, said he believed repackaging clips produced by the campaign would amount to a violation.

“Taking that material and turning it into pro-Cruz ads seemed to me, as my judgment as a lawyer, would be an improper use of campaign resources, and any ad we made out of it would constitute an improper contribution to the Cruz campaign,” Levy said. “I admit, I am a lawyer who does not recommend dancing over the line.”

Cruz himself was hands-off about his outside support. “I can genuinely answer I have no idea what the super PAC is going to do or what their strategy is,” Cruz told POLITICO a week ago. “That is the nature of this idiotic system we have under federal law.”

As for his own campaign spending plans, Cruz likened it to a scene in a Mel Gibson movie “where the other army is advancing and they keep saying ‘Hold, hold, hold.’ We are saving our resources very deliberately to use where they have the maximum impact.”

Authors:
Shane Goldmacher



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Re: Cruz's silent super PACs a growing worry for campaign
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 03:57:16 pm »
Timing is everything!
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 03:59:27 pm »
I found this story interesting.

I don't understand the whole PAC thing - but it appears that they can raise money for a certain candidate - but then they can spend it on other things - and the candidate cannot have any say about it?

I think the information in this article might be part of an explanation as to why Cruz doesn't seem to be climbing in the polls as I think he should be - especially after the last debate. 

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 04:06:13 pm »
I found this story interesting.

I don't understand the whole PAC thing - but it appears that they can raise money for a certain candidate - but then they can spend it on other things - and the candidate cannot have any say about it?

I think the information in this article might be part of an explanation as to why Cruz doesn't seem to be climbing in the polls as I think he should be - especially after the last debate.

It's still nearly three months before the first vote is cast Alice.  Agan, timing is everything!
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Re: Cruz's silent super PACs a growing worry for campaign
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2015, 04:17:51 pm »
It's still nearly three months before the first vote is cast Alice.  Agan, timing is everything!

Yes, but the article talks about Cruz's concerns that those PACS are not reserving the air space NOW at the cheaper rates, rather than waiting to reserve them closer to the voting.  Apparently, those PACS are spending money on things that are not promoting Cruz directly.

And I was interested to see the name of David Barton - Glenn Beck's crony - running some of these PACs.  Seems like I remember reading after the debate before this last one, when Carly Fiorina was surging - that a PAC run by Barton gave....something like a million dollars.....to seed a Carly PAC - when this was money raised for Ted Cruz.

Am I reading this wrong?

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2015, 04:26:22 pm »
Yes, but the article talks about Cruz's concerns that those PACS are not reserving the air space NOW at the cheaper rates, rather than waiting to reserve them closer to the voting.  Apparently, those PACS are spending money on things that are not promoting Cruz directly.

And I was interested to see the name of David Barton - Glenn Beck's crony - running some of these PACs.  Seems like I remember reading after the debate before this last one, when Carly Fiorina was surging - that a PAC run by Barton gave....something like a million dollars.....to seed a Carly PAC - when this was money raised for Ted Cruz.

Am I reading this wrong?

ALL superpacs are independent operations that cannot by law cordinate their actions with candidates.

As to raising money using whatever name they choose... Well it happens all the time!
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Re: Cruz's silent super PACs a growing worry for campaign
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2015, 04:35:48 pm »
Cruz's biggest obstacle will be Cruz himself.

He has not worked outside the public sector; sucking off taxpayers. His wife is an agent of the mega-wealthy.

He favors massive five-fold increases in legal immigration, at the behest of the Micro-softs of this world. They can bring in Indians and Chinese that work for $45,000 per year, not Americans for $150,000.

What else do Ted's billionaire supporters plan on getting?

And he comes across like a preacher.  A "know-it-all."  And his mug houses a weird little crooked mouth. And Ted, "a little dab will do you."
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2015, 05:09:06 pm »
Cruz's biggest obstacle will be Cruz himself.

He has not worked outside the public sector; sucking off taxpayers. His wife is an agent of the mega-wealthy.

He favors massive five-fold increases in legal immigration, at the behest of the Micro-softs of this world. They can bring in Indians and Chinese that work for $45,000 per year, not Americans for $150,000.

What else do Ted's billionaire supporters plan on getting?

And he comes across like a preacher.  A "know-it-all."  And his mug houses a weird little crooked mouth. And Ted, "a little dab will do you."

Microsoft supports Ted???

That will come as a great shock to "Only Socialism can save the World" Bill Gates!

What are you smokin?
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Re: Cruz's silent super PACs a growing worry for campaign
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2015, 05:20:53 pm »
Cruz's biggest obstacle will be Cruz himself.

He has not worked outside the public sector; sucking off taxpayers. His wife is an agent of the mega-wealthy.

He favors massive five-fold increases in legal immigration, at the behest of the Micro-softs of this world. They can bring in Indians and Chinese that work for $45,000 per year, not Americans for $150,000.

What else do Ted's billionaire supporters plan on getting?

And he comes across like a preacher.  A "know-it-all."  And his mug houses a weird little crooked mouth. And Ted, "a little dab will do you."

I certainly see a much different Cruz who comes across as confident and intelligent.  His background and record speaks for itself.  I took the time to do quite a bit of research on him and quite frankly, as a person, as a Senator, as a presidential candidate; I love the guy.  As for those who may judge him because they don't like his hair or the way his mouth sits on his face, rather than judge him by his qualifications and record speaks volumes to me and quite frankly reflects on their character. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2015, 05:36:42 pm »
For all you poll lovers.

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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2015, 03:48:41 pm »
Timing is everything! 

And you think this timing is good?:

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Despite those huge sums, virtually no Cruz TV ads have aired (a single ad ran during the Iowa-Iowa State football game in September) and no time has been reserved

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2015, 03:55:11 pm »
And you think this timing is good?:

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Despite those huge sums, virtually no Cruz TV ads have aired (a single ad ran during the Iowa-Iowa State football game in September) and no time has been reserved

That's what I was getting at.  I remember seeing reports that the PAC being run by David Barton actually gave a large sum of money to start a PAC for Carly Fiorina - possibly with this PAC money that is supposed to be for Ted Cruz!  I read that the candidates cannot have any dealings with their PACs.  What in the hell is the purpose of that?  Seems like it would be a good way to help stymie a candidate that one wants to hold back.

I understand Cruz has expressed some questions about this and I also remember when Trump said not to give money to his PACs. 

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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2015, 04:34:22 pm »
I have heard one radio ad for Cruz and nothing else. I don't watch a whole lot of TV but I have only seen one ad for Bush and several for Rubio.  Nothing for the remainder of the candidates other than Walker and he's out anyways.

So ... perhaps I don't watch enough TV or it's a little early for the ads to be running?

I would think in as much as Cruz won the Senate with very little money behind him, I'm sure he and his camp are on top of this.  He has raised quite a bit of money without the PAC's.  I too don't understand exactly how the PAC's work.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2015, 04:47:19 pm »
I have heard one radio ad for Cruz and nothing else. I don't watch a whole lot of TV but I have only seen one ad for Bush and several for Rubio.  Nothing for the remainder of the candidates other than Walker and he's out anyways.

So ... perhaps I don't watch enough TV or it's a little early for the ads to be running?

I would think in as much as Cruz won the Senate with very little money behind him, I'm sure he and his camp are on top of this.  He has raised quite a bit of money without the PAC's.  I too don't understand exactly how the PAC's work.

I think the main concern was that the PAC is not RESERVING air space NOW - like the other campaigns are NOW.  The rates are cheaper now than waiting and maybe the air time is limited too - after others have already RESERVED them. 

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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2015, 05:40:32 pm »
I think the main concern was that the PAC is not RESERVING air space NOW - like the other campaigns are NOW.  The rates are cheaper now than waiting and maybe the air time is limited too - after others have already RESERVED them.

Gottcha.  No this doesn't sound good at alll, especially since $$ has gone to Fiorina and the cost of waiting appears to be two-fold.
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