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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2015, 10:56:17 pm »
I'm gonna hold my fire on this. I had high hopes for Ryan as Romney's pick for VP so I'll wait to see how he performs as speaker before making a judgment.

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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2015, 12:06:44 am »
I'm willing to give Ryan a chance. One strong quality he possesses is his knowledge of budget issues, his "wonkiness."

With three issues of vital importance to get a handle on, 1) radical Islam, 2) illegal aliens, and 3) national debt, being on top of one out of three ain't bad.

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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2015, 12:12:18 am »
Paul Ryan is going to be the House Speaker.  No matter what Laura Ingraham or Mark Levin or Rush jump up and down about.   

The Freedom Caucus support Ryan cuz they know that, if they don't, they own the chaos that ensues.

And if there's one thing I've observed about the hair-on-fire conservatives, is that they don't accept responsibility for ANYTHING.
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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2015, 12:34:41 am »
Paul Ryan is going to be the House Speaker.  No matter what Laura Ingraham or Mark Levin or Rush jump up and down about.   

The Freedom Caucus support Ryan cuz they know that, if they don't, they own the chaos that ensues.

And if there's one thing I've observed about the hair-on-fire conservatives, is that they don't accept responsibility for ANYTHING.


You can add Glenn Beck to the list.
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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2015, 12:45:15 am »
I see that there are so called conservatives on this board that are willing to fall in line.

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Harry Reid: Why I Support Paul Ryan as Speaker

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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2015, 12:46:10 am »
The sausage must be made. Sausage making is not pretty.

Those without the stomach for watching sausage making, had best not watch.

Only the naïve will expect to get real sausage leaving out the nasty parts.

We just done saw some sausage gettin made.




It's nice to see the crybaby caucus beginning to evince some desire to start growing up.

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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2015, 12:53:46 am »
I see that there are so called conservatives on this board that are willing to fall in line.

The next thing you need to know ...

Harry Reid: Why I Support Paul Ryan as Speaker

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So what?    Who's your choice for House Speaker?  Gomer Gohmert?
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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2015, 12:55:59 am »
I see that there are so called conservatives on this board that are willing to fall in line.

The next thing you need to know ...

Harry Reid: Why I Support Paul Ryan as Speaker

Google it!


So I take it that you wanted someone from the Shutdown caucus as speaker??
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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2015, 12:59:53 am »

So I take it that you wanted someone from the Shutdown caucus as speaker??

That's a bad thing?

Go along to get along has worked out so well for this country.

Boehner 2.0 is a good thing?

Gotcha
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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2015, 01:08:20 am »
That's a bad thing?

Go along to get along has worked out so well for this country.

Boehner 2.0 is a good thing?

Gotcha


Since when is Compromise a bad thing? Reagan had to Compromise.. Besides a shutdown is something Obama wants and the last shutdown failed.
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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2015, 01:15:16 am »
That's a bad thing?

Go along to get along has worked out so well for this country.

Boehner 2.0 is a good thing?

Gotcha

Who is your nominee for Speaker who could garner 218 votes?
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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2015, 01:35:09 am »
I see that there are so called conservatives on this board that are willing to fall in line.

The next thing you need to know ...

Harry Reid: Why I Support Paul Ryan as Speaker

Google it!
Don't you think Reid said that just to get conservatives bent out of shape?

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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2015, 01:43:53 am »
Don't you think Reid said that just to get conservatives bent out of shape?


I think that is why he said it..
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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2015, 02:24:59 am »
Don't you think Reid said that just to get conservatives bent out of shape?

Of course.  He's laughing over the Pavlovian response his remarks elicited.

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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2015, 03:19:48 am »
Who is your nominee for Speaker who could garner 218 votes?
What difference does it make who replaces the Speaker.
Except for the whole replacement part the plan to oust Boehner worked perfectly.
Sure it took 3 years and in the end Boehner decided to quit rather than put up with their tantrums, but there is no reason that real conservatives can't just keep ousting Speakers until the rats win back the House.

Except for the fact that Ryan is even more pro-amnesty than Boehner, this is a terrific victory.

You make it sound like they should be ashamed of not understanding the consequences of their actions.

Haters gonna hate.

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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2015, 04:11:25 am »
So what?    Who's your choice for House Speaker?  Gomer Gohmert?

I would love to see Louie Gohmert as Speaker.  He would do a good job.

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« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2015, 04:13:33 am »

Since when is Compromise a bad thing? Reagan had to Compromise.. Besides a shutdown is something Obama wants and the last shutdown failed.

Compromise implies that both sides give.  Since when do dems give?

And, secondly, there are some things one should not compromise on.

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« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2015, 04:24:23 am »
Compromise implies that both sides give.  Since when do dems give?
Sequester and permanent Bush Tax cuts.
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« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2015, 04:26:22 am »
I would love to see Louie Gohmert as Speaker.  He would do a good job.
I'd love to see Reagan descend from Heaven and run for a 3rd term.
Gohmert would only get one vote for Speaker.  His own.

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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2015, 06:13:59 am »
I'd love to see Reagan descend from Heaven and run for a 3rd term.
Gohmert would only get one vote for Speaker.  His own.

There must be something about our political system of which I am unaware. If Reagan were to descend from heaven and run for a third term how would that affect Gohmert's chances for the Speakership? The former is an office elected by the body of the people; the latter is an internal leadership position solely voted on by the members of the House.

Are you saying that if Reagan were to return he would run for and win both offices?

Or something?
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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2015, 06:22:36 am »
It was an illustrtion of the relative likelihood of Gohmert becoming Speaker.
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« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2015, 06:53:47 am »
There must be something about our political system of which I am unaware. If Reagan were to descend from heaven and run for a third term how would that affect Gohmert's chances for the Speakership? The former is an office elected by the body of the people; the latter is an internal leadership position solely voted on by the members of the House.

Are you saying that if Reagan were to return he would run for and win both offices?

Or something?
Speaker Gohmert, and Angel Reagan are both fantasies.

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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2015, 04:13:56 pm »
Are you saying that if Reagan were to return he would run for and win both offices?

Some people just love to conjure up fantasies so that they have something to say...


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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2015, 09:09:24 pm »
Speaker Gohmert, and Angel Reagan are both fantasies.

Ok, ty for the explanation, weird as it is. Kudos to EC for deciphering it. He must have a decoder ring.
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Re: Freedom & Liberty Conservatives CAVE on RYAN for Speaker
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2015, 09:34:14 pm »
Compromise implies that both sides give.  Since when do dems give?

And, secondly, there are some things one should not compromise on.

DEMS never give an inch because the know that the other side will.

There are a lot of things that should not be subject to compromise.
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