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Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« on: October 09, 2015, 05:14:02 pm »
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/256499-conservatives-blast-boehner-for-delaying-speaker-vote

Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote

 By Scott Wong and Bernie Becker - 10/09/15 11:29 AM EDT

House conservatives accused Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) Friday of acting like a dictator by delaying the election for his successor because his favored candidate, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), suddenly dropped out of the race.

Reps. Tom Rice (R-S.C.) and Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) stood up during Friday’s closed-door GOP conference meeting and confronted Boehner about his decision to postpone Thursday’s election immediately after McCarthy’s shocking announcement, according to sources in the room

Boehner spokeswoman Emily Schillinger said the Speaker was well within the conference rules to ask that the elections be delayed. “He made a motion to adjourn the conference meeting, and no member objected,” she said in an email.

But Rice reportedly argued that the Speaker and his leadership team would not have delayed the election and quickly gaveled Thursday’s meeting to such an abrupt end if one of McCarthy’s rivals, such as Rep. Daniel Webster (R-Fla.), had said he was dropping out of the race, the sources said.

“He basically challenged the Speaker’s authority to end the meeting,” said one Boehner ally in the room. Boehner made the motion to adjourn Thursday, and Conference GOP Chairwoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.) quickly banged the gavel, leaving lawmakers stunned and confused.

Rice “is complaining on behalf of himself and others that some rules were violated,” the lawmaker added. “I have sympathy that a lot of big things don’t get discussed by enough people to at least take that argument off the table.”

Boehner told Rice that it would have been ill-advised to move forward with the election given the disarray, sources said, and a majority of the conference erupted in applause agreeing with the Speaker’s remarks.

“I was as shocked as you were about Kevin’s announcement yesterday,” Boehner told his colleagues in the private meeting, sources said. “To allow the shock to wear off a bit, I believed it was in the best interests of everyone here to delay the conference election for Speaker.”

Rice and Gohmert weren’t the only ones griping to leadership. After Friday’s meeting, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) was also furious at Boehner, saying the Speaker "called off the election because he didn't like the result."

"What's this tell the American people? It looks like a banana republic here," Massie told reporters. "If your man doesn't win the GOP primary in a presidential race, are you going to reopen the filing date and move the election?"

"That's essentially what they did," he added. "That was disgusting."

Minutes before the vote for Speaker Thursday, McCarthy told his colleagues he didn't have enough support on the House floor and was bowing out of the race. Boehner, who announced last month he planned to resign from Congress Oct. 30, told rank-and-file members Friday that he would stay on as Speaker until the conference can unify around a successor, people in the room said.

House lawmakers will head home Friday for a previously scheduled weeklong recess, when they'll be challenged by constituents to explain this week's chaos in the Capitol.

So far, Republicans say Ways and Means Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) is the only person who can bring the warring factions of the GOP together, but he’s repeatedly said he’s not interested in the job.

“Paul Ryan is the person who needs to do it. We just got to wait on him to make a decision,” said Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.), who himself is looking at the Speaker’s race if Ryan takes a pass.

— This story was updated at 12:06 p.m.
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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2015, 10:42:55 pm »
Have to remember that the only fight the RINOGOP will fight is the one against conservatives. They will screw up and the conservatives just have to continue to fight. I don't believe we cannot get a conservative Speaker. Keep the pressure on the RINOS, they will fold. They have no loyalty except to themselves and if EACH feels they will not get re elected they will screw anyone to keep their seat. Including the RINOGOP. :shrug:

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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2015, 01:37:12 am »
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.... leaving lawmakers stunned and confused.

What do they mean - "leaving." That's ground state for these assholes.

And cut with the bleep whining. Boner has gone, which is what was wanted. Sitting on your arses being totally unprepared for tricks really fills me with confidence in their ability to organise a piss up in a brewery.
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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2015, 01:48:57 am »
Well, there's at least two other guys running - Chaffetz and Webster - so I don't get the "disarray".  Except that maybe a person of Boehner's choosing wasn't going to be on the ballot. 

Don't give up guys!

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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2015, 02:53:45 am »
What do they mean - "leaving." That's ground state for these assholes.

And cut with the bleep whining. Boner has gone, which is what was wanted. Sitting on your arses being totally unprepared for tricks really fills me with confidence in their ability to organise a piss up in a brewery.

That is a good point.  "We were tricked again" is not a good leadership slogan.

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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2015, 03:06:56 am »
Well, there's at least two other guys running - Chaffetz and Webster - so I don't get the "disarray".  Except that maybe a person of Boehner's choosing wasn't going to be on the ballot. 

Don't give up guys!

Chaffetz is not a good guy.  He's the one who lowered the boom on Mark Meadows (NC) after he brought forth an initiative to unseat Boehner.  And he did so at Boehner's command.  Chaffetz does not have a spine or anything else to recommend him.   He  will be a clone of what we have now.


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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2015, 03:35:37 am »
Chaffetz is not a good guy.  He's the one who lowered the boom on Mark Meadows (NC) after he brought forth an initiative to unseat Boehner.  And he did so at Boehner's command.  Chaffetz does not have a spine or anything else to recommend him.   He  will be a clone of what we have now.

I agree with you on Chaffetz - that's why I don't understand why Boehner didn't go ahead with the vote with him in the running.....unless he knew Chaffetz didn't have the votes.

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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2015, 03:52:11 am »
I agree with you on Chaffetz - that's why I don't understand why Boehner didn't go ahead with the vote with him in the running.....unless he knew Chaffetz didn't have the votes.
Someone needs to get 218 votes.  I don't think anyone can get 218 votes.  It is also possible that most of the GOP thinks a protracted public fight for the Speakership is bad for the GOP brand.

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Boehner told Rice that it would have been ill-advised to move forward with the election given the disarray, sources said, and a majority of the conference erupted in applause agreeing with the Speaker’s remarks.

If Chaffetz is a poor choice for you, do you prefer Ryan or Webster any better?  And if not, is there any benefit in Boehner's stepping down?

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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2015, 04:01:45 am »
Just think, Nancy Pelosi just might get to be Speaker of the House again.

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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2015, 04:03:24 am »
Someone needs to get 218 votes.  I don't think anyone can get 218 votes.  It is also possible that most of the GOP thinks a protracted public fight for the Speakership is bad for the GOP brand.

If Chaffetz is a poor choice for you, do you prefer Ryan or Webster any better?  And if not, is there any benefit in Boehner's stepping down?

I would prefer Webster.  I listened to Chaffetz being interviewed by Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and he squirmed out of answering any question.  Was not impressed with that. 

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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2015, 04:20:40 am »
I would prefer Webster.  I listened to Chaffetz being interviewed by Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and he squirmed out of answering any question.  Was not impressed with that.
Yeah.  I read you write on another thread yesterday. 

I have read others say the Webster isn't much of a conservative.  Heritage Action rates him at 74%, better than McCarthy but below Chaffetz and Rep. Tom Rice who I heard mentioned last week as a candidate.

Thanx for your response.


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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2015, 04:26:35 am »
Yeah.  I read you write on another thread yesterday. 

I have read others say the Webster isn't much of a conservative.  Heritage Action rates him at 74%, better than McCarthy but below Chaffetz and Rep. Tom Rice who I heard mentioned last week as a candidate.

Thanx for your response.

I don't know much about Webster, mostly going by what my Congressman - Thomas Massie, says.  He is backing Webster and I trust his judgment.  I thought I liked Chaffetz until I heard the interviews.

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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2015, 02:24:25 pm »
Just think, Nancy Pelosi just might get to be Speaker of the House again.

I posted something similar here:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,181341.msg716311.html#msg716311

That was before Boehner resigned.  Why are so many people so d@#ned shortsighted nowadays?
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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2015, 03:05:57 pm »
Just think, Nancy Pelosi just might get to be Speaker of the House again.

Will this bring back your smile?

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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2015, 03:39:04 pm »
Chaffetz is not a good guy.  He's the one who lowered the boom on Mark Meadows (NC) after he brought forth an initiative to unseat Boehner.  And he did so at Boehner's command.  Chaffetz does not have a spine or anything else to recommend him.   He  will be a clone of what we have now.

He was BOONER hatchet man. Bad Guy and threw his support behind McCarthy if he was elected over him. Typical RINO conservative imposter. **nononono*

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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2015, 03:41:46 pm »
Will this bring back your smile?

Do not want or like NP except for one thing. She has more courage in here little figure than all of the RINOGOP. Wish we had someone that would fight like her in the HOUSE. We have all talkers that do NOTHING let alone FIGHT. :wtf!:

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Re: Conservatives blast Boehner for delaying Speaker vote
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2015, 03:44:12 pm »
Just think, Nancy Pelosi just might get to be Speaker of the House again.

With that picture whom do you support???