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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #175 on: March 30, 2024, 04:00:48 pm »
I'm not very knowledgeable about this sort of thing but, could the ship's loss of steerage have been caused by a cyber attack?
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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #176 on: March 30, 2024, 04:21:44 pm »
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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #177 on: March 30, 2024, 05:06:12 pm »
BFD.  Normals are not buying them anyway.

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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #178 on: March 30, 2024, 05:20:52 pm »
They're just as bad as the 9/11 "Truthers."  Our entire existence is just one, big conspiracy!

Sad thing is 9/11 truthers have had many in the “conservative” ranks who actually believe that garbage.

Never mind now, when Trump has stoked their paranoia even more.
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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #179 on: March 30, 2024, 08:35:32 pm »
Sad thing is 9/11 truthers have had many in the “conservative” ranks who actually believe that garbage.

Never mind now, when Trump has stoked their paranoia even more.
Say what you will about Towers 1&2--sure looked like planes hit them to me. Other questions have been raised about temperatures melting steel, and the duration of the heat in the pile, that I'd like to see answered. As for the Pentagon, people have seen a lot of Hollywood nonsense about relatively intact crashed planes, not realizing that aircraft's strength is for containing a tube full of people or cargo and keeping it aloft.
They do not 'do' fender benders well, and a serious impact at speed will  yield fragments that seldom resemble an aircraft. Landing dear and engine parts tend to survive as recognizable bits, and something the tail surfaces or parts than can be readily fit mentally into an image of an aircraft.

That said, (and I'm not a 'troofer'), Tower 7 sure looked like a controlled implosion.

People commonly dash off to the nearest theory which explains the things they question, and especially when official answers either are not forthcoming or do not flange up. Usually, careful analysis will disclose lies, misconceptions, or errors intertwined with the truth, but that just adds credence to assertions of malice and deceit.

It behooves us all to keep in mind that the first person who sees the attack coming is not "paranoid", just perceptive. There may be some false alarms, but those are better than being caught napping. Eternal vigilance and all that. Besides, you aren't paranoid if there really is someone out to 'get you', and the witch hunt over J6 and the event itself, censorship, and reports of people being sought by the FBI for perfectly legal comments made online, and egregious differences in prosecutorial zeal, are sure indicators that there is malicious intent by plenty of folks out there who may well be more intimately interconnected than just belonging to the same nominal political denomination.
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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #180 on: March 31, 2024, 12:01:09 pm »
Original plan to build underwater tunnel to complete Baltimore Beltway was changed to build Francis Scott Key Bridge instead in order to save money. The US Coast Guard had a betting pool to guess when a ship would knock the bridge down.

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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #181 on: April 03, 2024, 08:04:48 pm »
Original plan to build underwater tunnel to complete Baltimore Beltway was changed to build Francis Scott Key Bridge instead in order to save money. The US Coast Guard had a betting pool to guess when a ship would knock the bridge down.

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1773569501839130922

Armchair quarterbacks.

So it took 40 years for something to hit it and bring it down.  Those are pretty good odds.

And again, HAZMAT cannot be put in a tunnel.  We already have 2 closer to the old harbor.  We don’t need more.  Pointless even by the time the Key went up.

There are hundreds of bridges over shipping ports.  Why is this one getting all the heat?  Just because it happened to get hit by a huge freighter and go down.  Guess we could whine about the big complex at the mouth of the Chesapeake itself which includes  abridge span or 2. And our own MD Chesapeake Bay Bridge.  Is that too much in the way?

Crap happens.  It’s time everyone comprehends that.  You’re always taking calculated risks.  It’s parts of engineering and indeed accounting to try to be cheaper.  Why spend if not necessary?  You’re diverting money from something else.
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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #182 on: April 03, 2024, 09:03:24 pm »
Who are the 21 sailors stranded on the Dali?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/who-are-the-21-sailors-stranded-on-the-dali/ar-BB1kTHPU

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Nearly a week after Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed, almost two dozen sailors remain stranded on-board the vessel involved in the accident.

Most of the crew of the Dali, a 948ft (289m) container ship, are from India. One was slightly injured when the ship collided with the bridge.

Six people were killed in the collapse.

Investigators are working to determine exactly what caused the collision, and it is unclear when the crew will be able to leave the vessel.

Here's what we know about the men on-board the Dali and their current situation.

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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #183 on: April 04, 2024, 02:01:29 pm »
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Fact: The US Navy is in charged of the Baltimore Bridge salvage effort

Fact: The US Navy has more Admirals that warships

Fact: there is not one Admiral in uniform today who is a salvage master

Fact: salvage masters were once among the Navy’s most respected officers

Fact: during the Navy’s biggest crisis in history it made a salvage master it’s top Admiral and gave him 5 stars

Fact: for winning the entire F’n war Admiral King was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal

Fact: King already hade TWO Distinguished Service Medals for salvage operations

Opinion: this operation in Baltimore is going to be a painstaking long process costing billions of dollars.

Opinion: If the US Navy had not divested all its salvage equipment, subcontracted most of its salvage work to an overseas company, and still promoted experience hardened salvage masters to the rank of Admiral… this bridge could have been cleared in a few weeks

But today’s Admirals won’t be found on the decks of shipwrecks wearing wrinkled khakis. The hundreds of Admirals in today’s Navy prefer wearing starched Army camouflage to office jobs
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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #184 on: April 04, 2024, 03:27:39 pm »
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Fact: The US Navy is in charged of the Baltimore Bridge salvage effort

Fact: The US Navy has more Admirals that warships

Fact: there is not one Admiral in uniform today who is a salvage master

Fact: salvage masters were once among the Navy’s most respected officers

Fact: during the Navy’s biggest crisis in history it made a salvage master it’s top Admiral and gave him 5 stars

Fact: for winning the entire F’n war Admiral King was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal

Fact: King already hade TWO Distinguished Service Medals for salvage operations

Opinion: this operation in Baltimore is going to be a painstaking long process costing billions of dollars.

Opinion: If the US Navy had not divested all its salvage equipment, subcontracted most of its salvage work to an overseas company, and still promoted experience hardened salvage masters to the rank of Admiral… this bridge could have been cleared in a few weeks

But today’s Admirals won’t be found on the decks of shipwrecks wearing wrinkled khakis. The hundreds of Admirals in today’s Navy prefer wearing starched Army camouflage to office jobs
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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #185 on: April 04, 2024, 03:59:45 pm »
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Fact: The US Navy is in charged of the Baltimore Bridge salvage effort

Fact: The US Navy has more Admirals that warships

Fact: there is not one Admiral in uniform today who is a salvage master

Fact: salvage masters were once among the Navy’s most respected officers

Fact: during the Navy’s biggest crisis in history it made a salvage master it’s top Admiral and gave him 5 stars

Fact: for winning the entire F’n war Admiral King was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal

Fact: King already hade TWO Distinguished Service Medals for salvage operations

Opinion: this operation in Baltimore is going to be a painstaking long process costing billions of dollars.

Opinion: If the US Navy had not divested all its salvage equipment, subcontracted most of its salvage work to an overseas company, and still promoted experience hardened salvage masters to the rank of Admiral… this bridge could have been cleared in a few weeks

But today’s Admirals won’t be found on the decks of shipwrecks wearing wrinkled khakis. The hundreds of Admirals in today’s Navy prefer wearing starched Army camouflage to office jobs
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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #186 on: April 05, 2024, 02:54:07 am »
They're just as bad as the 9/11 "Truthers."  Our entire existence is just one, big conspiracy!

Sad, isn't it?

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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #187 on: April 05, 2024, 03:01:30 am »
I'm not sure what a "salvage master" even is, much less why having an Admiral who is a "salvage master" is important.   At-sea salvaging is going to be conducted/directed by specialists, even if there is a naval officer in charge.

Admiral King was a basic line officer, and became a naval aviator later in his career.

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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #188 on: April 05, 2024, 03:04:01 am »
I'm not very knowledgeable about this sort of thing but, could the ship's loss of steerage have been caused by a cyber attack?

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Theoretically yes, but it would be extremely awkward even if you could pull it off.  A lot of things would have to go perfectly, and the timing would have to be just right.  It would take a lot of luck, the ship would have to be on the correct course and speed for thee desired collision at the moment the ship lost power...it just seems very unlikely.
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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #189 on: April 07, 2024, 11:45:32 pm »
Container Ship Reportedly "Lost Power" In NYC Harbor, Right Before Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge

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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #190 on: April 09, 2024, 02:24:49 am »

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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #191 on: April 09, 2024, 12:08:22 pm »
Get ready for the George Floyd or Trayvon Martin Bridge:

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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #192 on: April 15, 2024, 10:55:30 pm »
 Whistleblower group claims China launched ‘terrorist attack’ on Baltimore bridge

American Military News by  Timothy Frudd  April 15, 2024

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is reportedly conducting a criminal investigation into last month’s Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse, which led to the death of six construction workers. The FBI’s investigation, which was confirmed on Monday, comes as a new report claims that the bridge collapse was allegedly a “terrorist attack” directed by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

Two U.S. officials told The Washington Post that officials are currently investigating the events that led to the Dali container ship losing power and crashing into one of the Baltimore bridge’s main support pillars. The outlet noted that the FBI’s criminal investigation will consider whether the Dali’s crew knew the ship had problems prior to leaving the port.

“The FBI is present aboard the cargo ship Dali conducting court authorized law enforcement activity,” the FBI said Monday in a statement obtained by The New York Post.”

While the FBI confirmed it was investigating the container ship, the agency did not provide additional details concerning the investigation.

On Monday, the FBI told Fox News, “There is no other public information available, and we will have no further comment.”

More: https://americanmilitarynews.com/2024/04/video-whistleblower-group-claims-china-launched-terrorist-attack-on-baltimore-bridge-report/

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Re: Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses (Hit by a ship)
« Reply #193 on: April 19, 2024, 01:18:05 pm »
FBI boards ship amid investigation into what caused Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse

American Military News by  Cheryl Hinneburg, Alex Mann - The Baltimore Sun, Dan Belson - The Capital and Darcy Costello - Baltimore Sun 4/18/2024

The FBI on Monday raided the container ship that struck the Francis Scott Key Bridge nearly three weeks ago as part of an investigation into the deadly bridge collapse.

Agents boarded the Dali Monday morning and were “conducting court authorized law enforcement activity,” a spokesperson for the FBI’s Baltimore Field Office said Monday, declining to comment further.

The FBI likely is looking into whether any federal laws were broken in the lead up to the bridge disaster, experts said For example, in past American maritime disasters, federal authorities leveraged an old statute known as “seaman’s manslaughter” to prosecute people they believed to have been criminally negligent for people’s deaths.

The Dali, a 984-foot ship which weighed about 112,000 tons loaded with cargo, apparently lost power and rammed one of the Key Bridge’s main support piers in the early morning of March 26, causing the 1.6-mile span to immediately collapse into the Patapsco River along with seven construction workers, killing six men.

Video of the collapse showed the lights aboard the Dali go out and then flicker as it approached the Key Bridge. A local pilot, who was onboard to guide the ship out of the harbor safely, reported losing all power, including the ability to steer, in a “mayday” call shortly before striking the bridge.

The FBI’s criminal investigation would run in parallel to the one by the National Transportation Safety Board, which aims to prevent future accidents.

The NTSB’s investigation has focused on the Dali’s engine room, board chair Jennifer Homendy told federal lawmakers last week.

Officials previously said the Dali’s crew reported to the Coast Guard that they were going to be conducting routine engine maintenance while in Baltimore.

The vessel experienced apparent electrical issues before it left the Port of Baltimore, the Associated Press reported Monday, citing an anonymous source with knowledge of the situation. That person said alarms went off on the ship’s refrigerated containers while it was still docked, likely indicating an inconsistent power supply.

That the FBI said it was onboard conducting “court-authorized law enforcement activity” suggests agents were serving a federal search warrant, Rod Rosenstein, former U.S. Deputy Attorney General and U.S. Attorney for Maryland, told The Baltimore Sun. Federal judges sign off on such warrants only after agents present probable cause that there was crime, he said.

More: https://americanmilitarynews.com/2024/04/fbi-boards-ship-amid-investigation-into-what-caused-francis-scott-key-bridge-collapse/