Ben Carson: President Should Be 'Sworn In On a Stack of Bibles, Not a Koran'

[rangerrebew]

Ben Carson: President Should Be 'Sworn In On a Stack of Bibles, Not a Koran'

Best selling author and pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson defended his view that a Muslim should not be put "in charge of this nation," and added that whoever is elected president of the United States should be "sworn in on a stack of Bibles, not a Koran."

On NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday,  host Chuck Todd asked Carson, who is a 2016 GOP presidential contender, if he believes "Islam is consistent with the Constitution?"

Carson said, "No, I don't. I do not. I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that."

Those remarks touched off a media firestorm and the Muslim advocacy group CAIR [1] has called for step down from his presidential run.

In an interview with The Hill on Sunday, however, Carson did not back down and explained his position further.

As for the person who wins the presidential election, that person should be "sworn in on a stack of Bibles, not a Koran," Carson told The Hill [2].

He continued, "I do not believe Sharia is consistent with the Constitution of this country,” in reference to the Islamic law (sharia) that governs Islamic society and a Muslim's personal life.

“Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution," said Carson.

If a Muslim ran for president and publicly rejected Sharia and lived in a way consistent with the Constitution, Carson said he could support that notion.  However, Carson also told The Hill [2] about Taqiyya, which is a practice in Shia Islam that says it is okay to lie to achieve one's goals.

(h/t The Hill [2])
Source URL: http://cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/ben-carson-president-should-be-sworn-stack-bibles-not-koran

[NavyCanDo]

Ben calls it as he sees it, and even though he saw a bit of a media firestorm because of the first interview, he did not back off or flip-flop. I respect that.

[libertybele]

Ben calls it as he sees it, and even though he saw a bit of a media firestorm because of the first interview, he did not back off or flip-flop. I respect that.

I agree with you on that one.  I just wish he had some sort of political experience to evaluate him on.

[Godzilla]

“Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution," said Carson.

Is this any diiferent than saying Christians feel that their religion is very much a part of their public life and what they do as a public official?  It's what the Huckabee/Santorum crowd demand.

So, I'd say that's not the reason. 

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I'd say that it's a lack of trust.  On a worldwide scope, Muslims have been demonstrating extreme hatred, violence, and genocidial tendencies.  And that is reflected onto Muslims in general.

Once Muslim-Americans overcome that lack of trust, it should not be an issue. 

And to do that, a Muslim politician should exhibit love of our country, support of our values, and leadership to strengthen our economic/political/military clout in the world.

[aligncare]

“Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution," said Carson.

Is this any diiferent than saying Christians feel that their religion is very much a part of their public life and what they do as a public official?  It's what the Huckabee/Santorum crowd demand.

So, I'd say that's not the reason. 

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I'd say that it's a lack of trust.  On a worldwide scope, Muslims have been demonstrating extreme hatred, violence, and genocidial tendencies.  And that is reflected onto Muslims in general.

Once Muslim-Americans overcome that lack of trust, it should not be an issue. 

And to do that, a Muslim politician should exhibit love of our country, support of our values, and leadership to strengthen our economic/political/military clout in the world.

When we elect the first REPUBLICAN Muslim, then maybe you would have a point. But if you want more rats in congress then by all means support more Muslims in government.

So far this is our only point of reference:

Keith Maurice Ellison (born August 4, 1963) has been the U.S. Representative for Minnesota's 5th congressional district since 2007. He is a member of the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party (DFL), the Minnesota state Democratic Party affiliate. The district centers on Minneapolis and surrounding suburbs. Ellison is a co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and a Chief Deputy Whip, also notably serving in the House Committee on Financial Services.

Ellison is the first Muslim to be elected to Congress.[1] He is also the first African American elected to the House from Minnesota.[2]

Before you even ask: yes, I am Islamophobic--and with good cause.

[Godzilla]

When we elect the first REPUBLICAN Muslim, then maybe you would have a point. But if you want more rats in congress then by all means support more Muslims in government.

So far this is our only point of reference:

Keith Maurice Ellison (born August 4, 1963) has been the U.S. Representative for Minnesota's 5th congressional district since 2007. He is a member of the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party (DFL), the Minnesota state Democratic Party affiliate. The district centers on Minneapolis and surrounding suburbs. Ellison is a co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and a Chief Deputy Whip, also notably serving in the House Committee on Financial Services.

Ellison is the first Muslim to be elected to Congress.[1] He is also the first African American elected to the House from Minnesota.[2]

Before you even ask: yes, I am Islamophobic--and with good cause.

None of those reasons to not vote for him are "cuz Islam".  They are because he's a Democrat with socialist views.  I'd hope *THAT* would be the reason to not vote for the guy.

[aligncare]

None of those reasons to not vote for him are "cuz Islam".  They are because he's a Democrat with socialist views.  I'd hope *THAT* would be the reason to not vote for the guy.

God...are you not worried that Islam is on the march? (How ironic the topic is Islam and Mohammed, eh, God?)

[Godzilla]

God...are you not worried that Islam is on the march? (How ironic the topic is Islam and Mohammed, eh, God?)

You do realize that the political views of radical Islamists aren't exactly a winner in any election most anywhere in the world, let alone here in America?  And those political views and actions aren't simply "Islam".

Those political views are very good reasons to reject them.

[aligncare]

You do realize that the political views of radical Islamists aren't exactly a winner in any election most anywhere in the world, let alone here in America?  And those political views and actions aren't simply "Islam".

Those political views are very good reasons to reject them.

All I see is a politically correct media. And a government importing potential terrorists. Yes, any anonymous group of Islamists, Muslims, are potential terrorists or haven't you noticed?

[Godzilla]

All I see is a politically correct media. And a government importing potential terrorists. Yes, any anonymous group of Islamists, Muslims, are potential terrorists or haven't you noticed?

And you'll hold the actions of those against someone not associated with them?

Can Jews then discriminate against all Christians because Christians (and there were a lot of Protestants and Catholics in German uniform during WWII) killed 6 million of 'em?  And condemn all Catholics for the Inquisition?  And all Eastern Orthodox for the progroms?  And the Anglicans for the English expulsion of Jews from Britain? 

If that's the standard you hold against others and their faith, prepare for that standard to be used on you and your faith.  That's the 'Golden Rule'.

And that'd be the only 'Christian' thing to do.

 

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What am I saying?  Of course they should!  I mean, wasn't it the modus operandi of the Church to condemn all Jews for the death of Christ?

[aligncare]

You are deflecting. Are there sleeper cells in the United States? Yes. Does our government plan on importing "refugees." Yes. Will a certain percentage of them be radical Islamist? Yes. Will Americans die when they carry out nefarious plans? Yes.

Political correctness aside, what do you plan on doing about that when it's your family in that movie theater that's targeted?

[Godzilla]

You are deflecting. Are there sleeper cells in the United States? Yes. Does our government plan on importing "refugees." Yes. Will a certain percentage of them be radical Islamist? Yes. Will Americans die when they carry out nefarious plans? Yes.

Political correctness aside, what do you plan on doing about that when it's your family in that movie theater that's targeted?

Sleeper cells are threatening the government of the United States... and probably are going to kill people (murder).  And those are great reasons to stop them.  We aren't going after them 'cuz Islam'.

And those are really good actions that we should be screening for in those newcomers.  Not 'cuz Islam'. 

Of course, a good number of them will be wanting to *COMMIT* those actions.  And we should profile them for it.  But still, that's not 'cuz Islam'.

[aligncare]

Barack Hussein Obama also refuses to acknowledge Islamic terrorism.

So, I give up. Islam is truly the religion of peace.

Good evening to you.

[Godzilla]

Barack Hussein Obama also refuses to acknowledge Islamic terrorism.

So, I give up. Islam is truly the religion of peace.

Good evening to you.

Muslims have to chose if they want peace or not.  If they do, then we treat those as peaceful.  And those that choose violence, we respond.

And here I thought we are party that stressed individual responsibility.  Judging a man on his actions, not the actions of his father or his brother or his next door neighbor.

Can I judge you for living in New York, a Democrat state?  They're the reason that Obama's in power (New York went for him in 2008 and 2012).  Using your own opinion on the matter, I should judge you based on the political views of the majority of the people in the territory you live in.

And I'd hazard you would be furious at that.

Which then loops back into the Golden Rule... "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you."

[DCPatriot]

Muslims have to chose if they want peace or not.  If they do, then we treat those as peaceful.  And those that choose violence, we respond.

And here I thought we are party that stressed individual responsibility.  Judging a man on his actions, not the actions of his father or his brother or his next door neighbor.

Can I judge you for living in New York, a Democrat state?  They're the reason that Obama's in power (New York went for him in 2008 and 2012).  Using your own opinion on the matter, I should judge you based on the political views of the majority of the people in the territory you live in.

And I'd hazard you would be furious at that.

Which then loops back into the Golden Rule... "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you."

The vast majority of them are military age males, unvetted, and strategically placed by DHS.  The vast majority aren't Syrian.

Virtually none of them are Christian.  And literally none are Caucasian.

There could literally be constant 24/7 convoy of military transports bringing these 'refugees' to a central terminal.  We don't know jack.

[Fishrrman]

aligncare wrote above:
[[ So, I give up. Islam is truly the religion of peace.
Good evening to you. ]]

Don't waste your time with him.
Godzilla has earned the honor of becoming the only poster in this forum on my ignore list...

[aligncare]

aligncare wrote above:
[[ So, I give up. Islam is truly the religion of peace.
Good evening to you. ]]

Don't waste your time with him.
Godzilla has earned the honor of becoming the only poster in this forum on my ignore list...

You are wise, Obi wan.

[libertybele]

The vast majority of them are military age males, unvetted, and strategically placed by DHS.  The vast majority aren't Syrian.

Virtually none of them are Christian.  And literally none are Caucasian.

There could literally be constant 24/7 convoy of military transports bringing these 'refugees' to a central terminal.  We don't know jack.

Well, one thing that we do know is that based on Barry's past track record he is quite capable of bringing in ISIS under the guise of Syrian refugees into this country.  A sure way to destroy America from within ... just in time for the 2016 election!

The rapid rise of ISIS thank to our Muslim president, his nuke deal with Iran, Putin in Syria and "refugees" pouring into Europe is not a coincidence folks.

[aligncare]

Here’s Obama’s original statement, in an October 2008 campaign visit to Columbia, Mo:

"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days. After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

And it took less than seven years...

[libertybele]

Here’s Obama’s original statement, in an October 2008 campaign visit to Columbia, Mo:

"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days. After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

And it took less than seven years...

What I don't understand and simply amazes me is how the majority of voters didn't see that this transformation was very much in place before they seated him in the oval office the second time around.  Secondly, it became very apparent he lied to get re-elected and with the use of his executive actions and clear abuse of power where was the call for impeachment?  Certainly those in Congress know what is happening.  They are equally instrumental in destroying this country as we know it. 

[olde north church]

What I don't understand and simply amazes me is how the majority of voters didn't see that this transformation was very much in place before they seated him in the oval office the second time around.  Secondly, it became very apparent he lied to get re-elected and with the use of his executive actions and clear abuse of power where was the call for impeachment?  Certainly those in Congress know what is happening.  They are equally instrumental in destroying this country as we know it.

He didn't lie about what he was going to do.  The GOP pretended they would help and actually got the suckers to open their wallets!  You never go broke underestimating the stupidity of the American voter.