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House rejects Obama's Iran deal......[symbolic vote]
« on: September 11, 2015, 05:03:31 pm »
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/253370-house-rejects-iran-deal

September 11, 2015, 12:34 pm
House rejects Obama's Iran deal

By Cristina Marcos

The House on Friday rejected a resolution to approve the Iran nuclear deal, with the vote underscoring how controversial the accord has been with President Obama’s own party.

While most Democrats voted to approve the nuclear bargain, 25 voted against it, creating a wedge that Republicans hope to use to their advantage in the 2016 elections.

Every Republican voted against the resolution, with the exception of libertarian Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), who voted "present." The tally was 162-269.

While the failure of the resolution will not prevent the nuclear pact from taking effect, the vote serves as a rebuke of Obama, who has staked his foreign policy legacy on defusing the Iranian threat through diplomacy.

Friday’s vote fell on the anniversary as the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, something Republicans were quick to highlight on the House floor as they accused Democrats of backing a “bad deal” that will jeopardize national security and Israel.

"Do not sacrifice the safety, the security and the stability of 300 million Americans for the legacy of one man," implored Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.) as he stood next to a poster of the Twin Towers burning on Sept. 11, 2001.

After the resolution of approval failed, the House passed legislation 247-186 that would prevent Obama from lifting sanctions against Iran. That measure would expire on his successor’s first full day in office in January 2017.

The day before the House votes, Senate Democrats blocked a resolution disapproving the Iran deal, leaving Republicans without a clear path forward for stopping the deal. Senate Republicans have vowed to hold more votes on Iran next week.

The Democrats in the House who opposed the Iran deal were a mix of lawmakers with different backgrounds and political situations. Some of them represent Jewish constituencies, face tough reelection races next year or identify as centrists.

But despite the defections, enough Democrats voted to support the deal to deprive the GOP of a veto-proof majority.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) worked closely with the White House to whip Democrats who were on the fence. Passage of a resolution against the nuclear deal would prevent Obama from lifting economic sanctions on Iran, which is a crucial part of the agreement.

Pelosi's efforts ultimately won out over intense lobbying from groups opposed to the deal, including the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).

Republicans have been unanimously opposed to the Iran deal from the beginning.

But House GOP leaders had to change course on their original plan of voting on a resolution of disapproval against the deal after an intraparty revolt.

Conservatives rallied around a proposal from Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.) stipulating that the House would not vote on the Iran deal until the Obama administration provides Congress with the text of side deals between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

The Obama administration says it does not have any copy of deals between Iran and the IAEA. The agency routinely keeps agreements about nuclear inspections confidential, which the administration says is crucial for completing its mission.

But with Democrats entrenched behind Obama’s accord, Republicans sought to highlight the existence of the side deals to hammer the administration.

“The president ought to release to the American people the details of these secret side agreements right now or withdraw this entire proposal,” said House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.).

The House passed a resolution Thursday arguing that Obama didn’t provide Congress with all documents pertaining to the Iran deal in violation of the congressional review law passed earlier this year.

Under the congressional review law, Congress has 60 days to review and vote on the Iran deal before Obama can begin lifting sanctions against Iran. In return for the sanctions relief, Iran has agreed to scale back its nuclear program and let international inspectors in for the first time.

House and Senate GOP leaders have stated since July — when the deal was first announced — that the 60-day review period would close on Sept. 17. But House GOP leaders are now siding with conservatives who argue the review period never really started since Congress didn’t receive all of the documents.

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) indicated at a Thursday news conference that litigation against President Obama over the side deals is “very possible.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has scheduled another vote on the Iran deal disapproval resolution when the chamber returns next week. The outcome, however, is unlikely to change, with 42 Democrats preventing a resolution from passing.

- This story was updated at 12:50 p.m.
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Re: House rejects Obama's Iran deal......[symbolic vote]
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2015, 05:10:50 pm »
Boy, they sure do love symbolic votes, don't they.  They love being meaningless...while raking in the lucre.

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Re: House rejects Obama's Iran deal......[symbolic vote]
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2015, 05:12:00 pm »
"Every Republican voted against the resolution, with the exception of libertarian Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), who voted "present." "

And yet they get a daily mantra of claims they are not doing what they were elected to do. They are called names. Threats are made that people will stop voting for them.
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Re: House rejects Obama's Iran deal......[symbolic vote]
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2015, 05:13:06 pm »
Boy, they sure do love symbolic votes, don't they.  They love being meaningless...while raking in the lucre.

So much fun to trick the people...

The House has this right and the Senate has it all wrong!
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Re: House rejects Obama's Iran deal......[symbolic vote]
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2015, 05:17:14 pm »
Boy, they sure do love symbolic votes, don't they.  They love being meaningless...while raking in the lucre.

So much fun to trick the people...

I don't think most people are fooled anymore.  Voters during the mid term elections now realize that their votes were only symbolic.  What of course needs to happen is the GOPe needs to be voted out of office.  That will never happen of course because there are those that still vote for party regardless of the incompetency and corruption of the candidate.

Don't be surprised if we lose our majority; perhaps in both Houses and we don't get the White House.  If you think about it, in reality, it's not going to make a whole lot of difference anyways.
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Re: House rejects Obama's Iran deal......[symbolic vote]
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2015, 05:38:34 pm »
I don't think most people are fooled anymore.  Voters during the mid term elections now realize that their votes were only symbolic.  What of course needs to happen is the GOPe needs to be voted out of office.  That will never happen of course because there are those that still vote for party regardless of the incompetency and corruption of the candidate.

Don't be surprised if we lose our majority; perhaps in both Houses and we don't get the White House.  If you think about it, in reality, it's not going to make a whole lot of difference anyways.
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Re: House rejects Obama's Iran deal......[symbolic vote]
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2015, 06:45:25 pm »
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/253390-obama-dismisses-house-iran-vote

Obama dismisses House Iran vote

President Obama on Friday dismissed a House vote against the Iran nuclear deal.
 
Obama said in a statement he is grateful that lawmakers “who have taken care to judge the deal on the merits” are backing it.
 
“Today’s vote in the House of Representatives is the latest indication that the more members have studied the historic deal that will prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, the more they have come out in support of it,” he said.
 
The House on Friday voted 162-269 to reject a resolution to approve the Iran nuclear deal. The vote was largely a symbolic rebuke of Obama, who has made the nuclear pact the centerpiece of his foreign policy legacy.
 
The vote will not prevent the nuclear agreement from taking effect. The Senate, which failed to advance a disapproval resolution on Thursday, is not expected to take up the House measure.
 
But the House vote served to expose divisions within Obama's party over the controversial agreement, which would lift sanctions on Iran in exchange for limits to its nuclear program. Twenty-five House Democrats voted against the measure.
 
But Obama praised House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) for leading an effort to build support for the deal in Congress.
 
More than two-thirds of House Democrats voted together on Friday, enough to sustain a presidential veto if the legislation had gone that route.
 
Under pressure from conservatives, House Republican leaders abandoned a plan to vote on a resolution of disapproval. Instead, they set up a complex legislative maneuver that could pave the way to a lawsuit against the deal.
 
Obama said the country should turn its attention toward putting the deal into place.
 
“Now, we must turn to the critical work of implementing and verifying this deal so that Iran cannot pursue a nuclear weapon,” Obama said. “In doing so, we’ll write the latest chapter of American leadership in the pursuit of a safer, more hopeful world.”
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Re: House rejects Obama's Iran deal......[symbolic vote]
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2015, 07:12:28 pm »
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Re: House rejects Obama's Iran deal......[symbolic vote]
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2015, 01:04:38 am »
I don't think most people are fooled anymore.  Voters during the mid term elections now realize that their votes were only symbolic.  What of course needs to happen is the GOPe needs to be voted out of office.  That will never happen of course because there are those that still vote for party regardless of the incompetency and corruption of the candidate.

Don't be surprised if we lose our majority; perhaps in both Houses and we don't get the White House.  If you think about it, in reality, it's not going to make a whole lot of difference anyways.

Do you even know why this was a symbolic vote, with no power behind it?
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