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Reid offers GOP a deal on Iran vote
« on: September 05, 2015, 10:39:51 pm »
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/252843-reid-makes-offer-to-gop-on-iran

September 05, 2015, 05:19 pm
Reid offers GOP a deal on Iran vote

By Jordain Carney

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Saturday suggested Democrats wouldn't to try to block a final vote on the Iran nuclear deal — but only if Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) agrees to a higher threshold for passage.
"I recently informed Senator McConnell that after a period of robust debate, Democrats would be happy to proceed straight to a final passage vote that is consistent with Senator McConnell’s many statements that important matters in the Senate have ‘for quite some time required sixty votes,’ " Reid said in a statement. "The choice is up to him."
 
The Nevada Democrat's offer comes as the Senate is expected to take up a resolution of disapproval on the Iran nuclear deal that is aimed at killing the agreement.
 
While President Obama has the votes needed to uphold a potential presidential veto, he's still at least three supporters short of 41 senators — a total that would successfully block the resolution from passing in the first place.
 
While Reid's offer would let Republicans bypass procedural votes on the Iran resolution, it would still require that they get 60 supporters — the same number they would need to overcome a potential Democratic filibuster.
 
But Reid said Saturday that Republicans, as well as supporters of the deal, "have always known" 60 votes would be needed to move a resolution on the Iran nuclear deal through the Senate.
 
“Democrats continue to live up to our pledges to behave in a constructive and cooperative fashion," he added. "On the Iran Review Act, I hope Senator McConnell and Senate Republicans can take yes for an answer and allow the Senate to proceed directly to a final passage vote after a period of robust debate.”
 
Republicans, including Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), have slammed Democrats for potentially requiring that they overcome a filibuster to pass the Iran resolution. Congress passed legislation by a 98-1 vote earlier this year that allows them to weigh in and vote on the deal.
 
But even if Obama does get 41 senators to back the Iran deal, it's unclear he would have the support to filibuster the agreement. Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), who is still undecided, said this week that even if he supports the deal, he wouldn't support a filibuster.
 
Meanwhile, Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), who announced his support this week, told CNN that it would be "regrettable" if senators didn't take an up-or-down vote — suggesting he might not support a filibuster either.
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Re: Reid offers GOP a deal on Iran vote
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2015, 11:16:20 pm »
McConnell has been outmaneuvered again... worthless!

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Re: Reid offers GOP a deal on Iran vote
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2015, 01:31:19 am »
McConnell has been outmaneuvered again... worthless!

No he hasn't.  Reid is desperate. He doesn't want the Senate to defeat Obama's Iran deal, which it would if he can't get to 41 votes to filibuster, and it appears he can't.

Nope. This is about protecting Obama's ass, and, right now, it's hanging out for a defeat in the Senate and certainly in the House.

Obama's Iran deal will "get by" because the Senate couldn't roust up 67 to overcome a veto.  Having to veto a disapproval makes O look very very bad.
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Re: Reid offers GOP a deal on Iran vote
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2015, 07:17:45 am »
No he hasn't.  Reid is desperate. He doesn't want the Senate to defeat Obama's Iran deal, which it would if he can't get to 41 votes to filibuster, and it appears he can't.

Nope. This is about protecting Obama's ass, and, right now, it's hanging out for a defeat in the Senate and certainly in the House.

Obama's Iran deal will "get by" because the Senate couldn't roust up 67 to overcome a veto.  Having to veto a disapproval makes O look very very bad.
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Re: Reid offers GOP a deal on Iran vote
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2015, 10:47:02 am »
No he hasn't.  Reid is desperate. He doesn't want the Senate to defeat Obama's Iran deal, which it would if he can't get to 41 votes to filibuster, and it appears he can't.

Nope. This is about protecting Obama's ass, and, right now, it's hanging out for a defeat in the Senate and certainly in the House.

Obama's Iran deal will "get by" because the Senate couldn't roust up 67 to overcome a veto.  Having to veto a disapproval makes O look very very bad.

If McConnell turns it down now, the republicans are foolish and uncooperative and when the senate passes it and obama vetoes it, the republicans cannot override the veto then they are losers.

Reid got out in front on this and no matter what, the republicans are going to take it on the chin.
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Re: Reid offers GOP a deal on Iran vote
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2015, 11:38:56 am »
Reid desperate?  I don't think so.  McConnell always marches to Reid's drum. This issue will be no different.
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Re: Reid offers GOP a deal on Iran vote
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2015, 12:36:20 pm »
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/5/harry-reid-confirms-senate-democrats-will-filibust/print/

Harry Reid confirms Senate Democrats will filibuster Iran nuclear deal
By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Saturday, September 5, 2015

Democrats will try to mount a filibuster to block the Iran nuclear deal from even having to reach President Obama's desk for a veto, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid signaled Saturday in a statement.

He and his party colleagues already have enough committed supporters that they would be able to sustain an Obama veto and allow the Iran deal to proceed, but a filibuster would be an even bigger coup, halting the issue earlier in the process and heading off a protracted — and potentially politically costly — veto fight.

"I recently informed Senator McConnell that after a period of robust debate, Democrats would be happy to proceed straight to a final passage vote that is consistent with Senator McConnell's many statements that important matters in the Senate have 'for quite some time required 60 votes.' The choice is up to him," Mr. Reid said, referencing Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

A surge of support for Mr. Obama's stance this week has put Democrats well over the 34 votes needed to guarantee upholding the veto, and they are now within striking distance of the 41 votes that would guarantee a filibuster, too.

The latest count from the Bipartisan Policy Center puts them at 38 supporters — 36 Democrats and two liberal-leaning independents.

Just 33 senators have announced their opposition, and 29 have yet to give an official stance. Most of those are Republicans who are expected to try to defeat the deal, but five remain Democrats remain publicly uncommitted.

In his statement, Mr. Reid taunted Mr. McConnell, who led repeated filibusters while Democrats controlled the chamber from 2007 through the end of 2014. Mr. McConnell said big issues required a 60-vote threshold associated with overcoming filibusters.

The Iran debate is slated to begin Tuesday, as Congress returns from a long summer vacation.

Under the terms of the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act of 2015, passed earlier this year, Congress has a chance to look over the deal Mr. Obama and other international leaders signed with the Islamic Republic, designed to halt that country's apparent march toward nuclear weapons.

The law gives Congress the chance to disapprove of the deal, but that bill then goes to Mr. Obama, who wields a veto. It takes a two-thirds vote of each chamber to override the veto, and if a bill were to get that far, supporters of the deal would face intense pressure from pro-Israeli lobbying groups.

But a filibuster would nip the process earlier, preventing a chance for the lobbying to kick into high gear and avoiding the need for Democrats to cast more politically fraught votes.
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