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Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« on: August 29, 2015, 10:00:50 am »
The vast majority of Democratic insiders from the early states don’t believe Joe Biden will run for president, despite evidence that he is seriously considering a 2016 bid.

That’s the assessment of the POLITICO Caucus, our weekly bipartisan survey of the top strategists, activists and operatives in Iowa and New Hampshire. Their responses come as speculation swirls about whether the vice president will jump into the Democratic primary against his longtime colleague, and likely nominee, Hillary Clinton.

“He’s a truly wonderful man universally loved by NH Democrats, but I can’t imagine him undertaking such a monumental underdog effort at such a difficult time for his family and with the massive monetary, people and campaign advantages of the Clinton campaign,” a New Hampshire Democrat said, referring to the recent death of Biden’s eldest son, former Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden.

“An objective reading of VP Biden’s chances of winning the nomination will force him to accept the reality that he should not enter the race for the Democratic nomination,” an Iowa Democrat said.

Biden has held conversations with donors, advisers and strategists about the process, but eight in 10 Democratic insiders don’t think he’ll actually pull the trigger and join the race. They say it’s too late in the game for Biden to mount a serious bid unless Clinton implodes — a prospect that most saw as unlikely — after months of scrutiny of her email practices while she was secretary of state, an issue that has triggered the attention of the FBI.

“He will flirt with it, but at the end of the day he won’t run,” an Iowa Democrat said. “There isn’t a real path here for him to the White House this late in the game.”
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“Unless the e-mail thing gets demonstrably worse for Hillary, Biden will heed the advice of his wife and stay out of the race,” said a New Hampshire Democrat, who like all POLITICO Caucus participants was granted anonymity in order to speak freely.

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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2015, 12:38:45 pm »
Biden's brain problems are at least as serious as Hillary's, not that a little thing like an aneurysm stopped anyone (and heaven knows we've never known anything about Obama's physical health).
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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2015, 01:55:53 pm »
I don't know why, but those Democratic insider comments read like "threats" to me.  Sort of like, "you've got a lovely family there, hope nothing happens to them".


“He’s a truly wonderful man universally loved by NH Democrats, but I can’t imagine him undertaking such a monumental underdog effort at such a difficult time for his family and with the massive monetary, people and campaign advantages of the Clinton campaign,”

“An objective reading of VP Biden’s chances of winning the nomination will force him to accept the reality that he should not enter the race for the Democratic nomination,” an Iowa Democrat said.

“He will flirt with it, but at the end of the day he won’t run,” an Iowa Democrat said. “There isn’t a real path here for him to the White House this late in the game.”

“Unless the e-mail thing gets demonstrably worse for Hillary, Biden will heed the advice of his wife and stay out of the race,” said a New Hampshire Democrat, who like all POLITICO Caucus participants was granted anonymity in order to speak freely.


They sound more like "Clinton Insiders" to me.

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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2015, 02:05:38 pm »
I am no fan of Uncle Joe's, but he just lost his son and I think it would be extremely difficult for him to push all those emotions aside and jump into a presidential campaign; especially against Hillary not to mention the great GOP candidates we have.

It has been reported that he was in talks with Warren which if he doesn't plan on running, maybe she will.  I don't see Clinton lasting.  So that leaves Sanders, O'Malley and Webb.  I can certainly see her teaming up with Sanders..  That would be even worse than the years we have had under Barry.  We certainly won't have a Republic left.
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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2015, 03:35:37 pm »
Anyone here actually looking forward to watching the first Democrat debate? I don't remember ever watching one in its entirety, but I think I may this time just for the entertainment value. But it would have been more fun with Joe.
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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2015, 04:45:04 pm »
His two aneurysms should disqualify him from the Presidency.
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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2015, 04:52:50 pm »
Be careful what you wish for. Actually HILLARY running and getting the DEM is not such a bad idea, IMO. She can be beat by a conservative candidate rather easily. She has so much baggage she needs 2 planes when she travels. The good news about Hillary is that she and Obama HATE each other guts. If she wins Barry does nothing and throws her under the bus. If Biteme wins the BARRY corrupt machine backs him and IMO will be harder to defeat than HILLARY.  Despise BARRY but his political machine is very, very corrupt but they play to WIN. Of course if a RINO is the candidate it does not matter who wins the country loses big time. :patriot:

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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2015, 04:58:40 pm »
Anyone here actually looking forward to watching the first Democrat debate? I don't remember ever watching one in its entirety, but I think I may this time just for the entertainment value. But it would have been more fun with Joe.

No. Not a bit. Won't watch under any circumstance.
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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2015, 05:02:38 pm »
Be careful what you wish for. Actually HILLARY running and getting the DEM is not such a bad idea, IMO. She can be beat by a conservative candidate rather easily. She has so much baggage she needs 2 planes when she travels. The good news about Hillary is that she and Obama HATE each other guts. If she wins Barry does nothing and throws her under the bus. If Biteme wins the BARRY corrupt machine backs him and IMO will be harder to defeat than HILLARY.  Despise BARRY but his political machine is very, very corrupt but they play to WIN. Of course if a RINO is the candidate it does not matter who wins the country loses big time. :patriot:

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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2015, 05:13:30 pm »
Anyone here actually looking forward to watching the first Democrat debate? I don't remember ever watching one in its entirety, but I think I may this time just for the entertainment value. But it would have been more fun with Joe.

Agree that Joe would have made this interesting.   As for watching Hillary and Sanders debate--well, I'd rather watch paint dry.   ^-^

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2015, 05:31:52 pm »
Agree that Joe would have made this interesting.   As for watching Hillary and Sanders debate--well, I'd rather watch paint dry.   ^-^

There is nothing for them to debate as the agree on everything!
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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2015, 05:39:01 pm »
Agree that Joe would have made this interesting.   As for watching Hillary and Sanders debate--well, I'd rather watch paint dry.   ^-^
 

Definitely have no interest in watching Hillary or Sanders debate.  I can't stomach listing to Hillary lie and watch her dance around the issues nor can I stomach listening to a socialist running for president in the United States of America.
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Re: Democratic insiders: Joe Biden won't run
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2015, 05:40:13 pm »
There is nothing for them to debate as the agree on everything!

True!   :laugh: