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You know folks, if we are pulling out the Hitler Card already, I'd suggest that Trump isn't the only one engaging in hyperbole.

(How ironic is it that we bring out Hitler in criticism of someone other than an Obama Democrat  *hmmmm* )

I agree.  Trump is no Hitler.  He'd be a very bad joke not a horror.

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You know folks, if we are pulling out the Hitler Card already, I'd suggest that Trump isn't the only one engaging in hyperbole.

(How ironic is it that we bring out Hitler in criticism of someone other than an Obama Democrat  *hmmmm* )


Ok, I hate the Hitler card, but I don't support a candidate regardless of party who wishes to piss on the Constitution. 
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Ok, I hate the Hitler card, but I don't support a candidate regardless of party who wishes to piss on the Constitution.

Uh....just what has a Boehner/McConnell style of leadership gotten you thus far?

Democrats MUST eat the same sh*t sandwich I've been forced to eat.  They must be punished.

No back seat for them.   Tie them up and gag them and throw them in the trunk.   :smokin:
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Okay.  Nice.

Who's paying for it?

Deporting 14 million illegals won't be cheap.

And are we good with increasing the number of Federal workers by the amount needed to go through every town in America to round them up?

And what about the eventual mistakes?  (Cheech and Chong made a movie about exactly that called 'Born in east L.A.)

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You know folks, if we are pulling out the Hitler Card already, I'd suggest that Trump isn't the only one engaging in hyperbole.

(How ironic is it that we bring out Hitler in criticism of someone other than an Obama Democrat  *hmmmm* )

The only parallel with Hitler I ever make is what is happening with Planned Parenthood, research and Mengele.

I hope my agreement about Sophie Scholl isn't misinterpreted as saying Trump is anything at all like Hitler.

I'm not even close to thinking that.

Planned Parenthood, however, would function well with Hitler in charge.  Same eugenic ideals.....

And that is most certainly NOT hyperbole.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Okay.  Nice.

Who's paying for it?

Deporting 14 million illegals won't be cheap.

And are we good with increasing the number of Federal workers by the amount needed to go through every town in America to round them up?

And what about the eventual mistakes?  (Cheech and Chong made a movie about exactly that called 'Born in east L.A.)

I've said this before but you weren't here then so I'll say it again!  We don't need to deport anyone! All we need to do is turn off the damned MAGNETS, every last one of them, and they will go home all by themselves!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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I've said this before but you weren't here then so I'll say it again!  We don't need to deport anyone! All we need to do is turn off the damned MAGNETS, every last one of them, and they will go home all by themselves!

Sounds easy but I think there is a great effort required even in this.  They are not all on gvmnt assistance despite what some think.

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I've said this before but you weren't here then so I'll say it again!  We don't need to deport anyone! All we need to do is turn off the damned MAGNETS, every last one of them, and they will go home all by themselves!
Yes they will go home. Most if not all are on the taxpayers teet.


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Sounds easy but I think there is a great effort required even in this.  They are not all on gvmnt assistance despite what some think.

95% is better than the current 0%!
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Yes they will go home. Most if not all are on the taxpayers teet.

I'm pretty sure you are completely mistaken about that.  I suspect it is only a minority are here for gvmnt handouts.  Do you know many illegals?

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95% is better than the current 0%!

I'm certain you are wrong about that.  Do you know many illegals?

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I'm pretty sure you are completely mistaken about that.  I suspect it is only a minority are here for gvmnt handouts.  Do you know many illegals?
At least 35 mil illegal. If I find the article will post here for you.


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At least 35 mil illegal. If I find the article will post here for you.

Ok but is the only reason they are here is to seek gvmnt assistance?  My guess is illegals seek gvmnt assistance less than legals.

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Do you Trump supporters even remember where Trump stood on the problem of illegals when Romney was running for president? He thought Romney's "self deportation" plan was to brutal, and would turn away the Latino vote.

Trump's very words..."The Republican Party will continue to lose presidential elections if it comes across as mean-spirited and unwelcoming toward people of color. Whether intended or not, comments and policies of Mitt Romney and other Republican candidates during this election were seen by Hispanics and Asians as hostile to them".    Donald Trump to newsmax.
 

His supporters are in denial about the flip flops on immigration, wealth taxes, single payer, the competence of Hillary Clinton, etc.. His willingness to say anything in the present seems powerful enough to overcome anything he may have said 3 years ago or even 3 minutes ago.

I hope I like next month's version of Trump better.


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Okay.  Nice.

Who's paying for it?

Deporting 14 million illegals won't be cheap.

And are we good with increasing the number of Federal workers by the amount needed to go through every town in America to round them up?

And what about the eventual mistakes?  (Cheech and Chong made a movie about exactly that called 'Born in east L.A.)

Who in the heck cares how much it will cost?

We've been playing with 'Monopoly Money' since 2008.  There ain't no difference between $18 Trillion in debt and $20 Trillion.
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I hope I like next month's version of Trump better.

I think Trump will be Trump and you either love him or hate him.
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Ok but is the only reason they are here is to seek gvmnt assistance?  My guess is illegals seek gvmnt assistance less than legals.
There are no jobs here. How are they making a income?


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There are no jobs here. How are they making a income?

They are cleaning houses, workjng for landscapers.  They are musicians.  They work in restaraunts.  There are lots of jobs for those willing to do the work, and it's pretty easy to get work.

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Sounds easy but I think there is a great effort required even in this.  They are not all on gvmnt assistance despite what some think.

No one is proposing going door to door and yanking people out of homes.  There are quite a few on government assistance and quite a few that are opening up bank accounts (thank you Bank of America), applying for drivers licenses, etc.  that can be reported and deported.  Doctors offices and our hospitals and emergency rooms are full of illegals.  Having worked in the medical field I found it extremely frustrating to have to register someone or hand over medical records to someone who was given "free" and costly medical care and the only thing that they can produce is a damn Matricula Consular card as identification.

As was stated early by other posters, cut off the benefits, cut off the "freebies" and they will self deport.

Another poster also stated that there should be a moratorium on immigration into this country and I agree wholeheartedly.

All of these suggested methods, while not perfect, do not involve going door to door and yanking people out of their homes as the DEMS would scare you into believing. 
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No one is proposing going door to door and yanking people out of homes.  There are quite a few on government assistance and quite a few that are opening up bank accounts (thank you Bank of America), applying for drivers licenses, etc.  that can be reported and deported.  Doctors offices and our hospitals and emergency rooms are full of illegals.  Having worked in the medical field I found it extremely frustrating to have to register someone or hand over medical records to someone who was given "free" and costly medical care and the only thing that they can produce is a damn Matricula Consular card as identification.

As was stated early by other posters, cut off the benefits, cut off the "freebies" and they will self deport.

Another poster also stated that there should be a moratorium on immigration into this country and I agree wholeheartedly.

All of these suggested methods, while not perfect, do not involve going door to door and yanking people out of their homes as the DEMS would scare you into believing.

I disagree that they will self-deport if you cut off their gvmnt assistance however I have no problem whatsoever in doing that.  They should not be receiving it anyway whatever "it" is.

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Those sound like "Executive Orders" like Obama. So the businesses are guilty and get their assets seized, just like that? No "due process" or "presumption of innocence."

That happens to be fascistic. The factors of production are not owned by the state in fascism, but the state wields an iron fist over their use.

Sounds a lot to me like "conservatism" in its frustration, is willing to continue to be dumbed down, and dumbed down some more IF the leader is STRONG, and is against what you are against, and is for what you are for at this time.

But Der Leader Trump is all over the map on his snap of the tongue pronouncements.  Today it is round up them all, but tomorrow it will be modified to round up just the "bad" ones.

Here is the problem. We have gross incompetency in government. More than philosophical issues, the incompetency is huge.

They are incompetent to identify and handle the "bad" ones today. What makes you assume they will miraculously become competent?

What about a society wherein the authorities are actively trying to identify and deport the "bad" ones? Do they challenge the people who have Hispanic appearance? What about if you have an Hispanic appearance, but you are a native born citizen? What about an authority that doesn't believe you?

Will authorities detain you, take you to the station? Will you get a phone call to your family, to bring your birth certificate?

Seems like the Soviet Union, East Germany and Nazi Germany. Only here in America today the "authorities" will be career government employees.

Again, no one is advocating stopping people because they look Hispanic.  Asking for proper identification and proof of citizenship before one can open a bank account, apply for a job, apply for a checking account, checking on one's  status before renting to individuals should all come under e-verify. I think it has become necessary to have to show proof of citizenship. The "gross" incompetency of our government is brought on by those in government who refuse to enforce existing laws.  IF ICE and border patrol agents were allowed to catch and deport we wouldn't be in this mess.  If our law enforcement officers were allowed to deport instead of hold and release we wouldn't be in this mess.   Once it is known to illegals that the system is no longer lax and that getting benefits without proof of citizenship is slim to none they will self deport and many won't try to come here in the first place.  Due process??  Illegals are here illegally. THEY SHOULD HAVE NO RIGHTS UNDER AMERICAN LAW period.
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Who in the heck cares how much it will cost?

The "cost" is just not dollars, so what you should be saying is, Who in the heck cares what it will cost? 

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The "cost" is just not dollars, so what you should be saying is, Who in the heck cares what it will cost? 

The cost of tyranny is immeasurable and irreparable. And tyranny from the Left or from the Right is still tyranny.


Also I don't think we will have the manpower to deport every illegal immigrant in this country as well..
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