The New Battle Lines: Elitists Vs. Us

[Lazamataz]

Late to the discussion as is my station, it seems.  Thanks for the contribution, Laz. 

In time, a choice will be presented to us on a Tuesday in a not-so-distant November.  I hope it provides an option better than (E) vs. (E).  I am not optimistic, but I will choose.  As must we all. 

My hope, because there is little else, is the pipeline.  My fear is nothing will matter a hell of a lot short of a truly sudden, existential "snap-to" event.  Our reality may be; given a generational indifference to traditional tenets of this society, driven and enabled by the political elitists, absolutely nothing may matter.

I've heard a little chatter about a September 2015 time frame for major problems. I pray that chatter is noise, not signal. I like air conditioning and I hate bugs.

[Luis Gonzalez]

So a guy can pretend to be one thing on one site and another on another site and no one should call him out on it because in both instances he makes himself a favorite?  Ok but it is dishonest in my opinion to portray yourself as a moderate on one site and an extremist on the other and evev to be encouraged to do this by the site mngmnt.

Have you ever know anyone whose name is mystery-ak, Lazamataz, Lando Lincoln, Once-ler, sinkspur or Oceander out in the real world?

Pretending you're someone that you're not is the cornerstone of online forums.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

A) Mockery is right out of Alinsky. Congrats on your storied mentor!

B) Everyone is powerless. If you believe otherwise, welcome to a life of disappointment.

C) Conspiracies that are true are called 'plans'.

I am unsurprised at your response. I'm sure you are either a RINO/Establishment official, or a huge backer thereof -- one that is likely to see a payoff, either monetary or otherwise. You've got some skin in the game.

A. Mockery comes naturally for me, and with fringers it comes easily.
B. My guys are all in leadership position in the Congress and most Governor and state legislatures.  Next year the GOP will own the White House too.
C.  Conspiracies that are false are still stupid.

I've been working hard at being unsurprising.  I do have skin in the game.  I love my country, I have young children who I hope live in a better world, and I pay taxes.
Good job recognizing my support for the RINO/Establishment Sherlock...did the red white and blue rhino avatar, or the "RINO Libtard" line underneath give me away?

[Lazamataz]

B. My guys are all in leadership position in the Congress and most Governor and state legislatures.  Next year the GOP will own the White House too.

Yes, congratulations on rigging the system for liberal Republicans. WHOOO HOOOOO!

I've been working hard at being unsurprising.  I do have skin in the game.  I love my country, I have young children who I hope live in a better world, and I pay taxes.
Good job recognizing my support for the RINO/Establishment Sherlock...did the red white and blue rhino avatar, or the "RINO Libtard" line underneath give me away?

Well, you actually to admit you are a liberal. That is to your credit.

To your deficit, is that you are helping to destroy America.

So you can take pride in that.

[Lazamataz]

Have you ever know anyone whose name is mystery-ak, Lazamataz, Lando Lincoln, Once-ler, sinkspur or Oceander out in the real world?

My pen name actually IS Laz A. Mataz.

So it's somewhat 'real world'.

[DCPatriot]

Yes, congratulations on rigging the system for liberal Republicans. WHOOO HOOOOO!

Well, you actually to admit you are a liberal. That is to your credit.

To your deficit, is that you are helping to destroy America.

So you can take pride in that.

Come on Laz....      Is that necessary?

Once-Ler has always presented himself as a thoughtful, ever-lucid poster, who shouldn't have to read crap like that in here....regardless of it being a hidden category for members.

Just my opinion....

[xfreeper]

.....and you are correct

[Oceander]

Have you ever know anyone whose name is mystery-ak, Lazamataz, Lando Lincoln, Once-ler, sinkspur or Oceander out in the real world?

Pretending you're someone that you're not is the cornerstone of online forums.

Actually, on the 1870 (I think) census records, my great-grandfather is listed as "Oceander".

[Lazamataz]

Come on Laz....      Is that necessary?

Once-Ler has always presented himself as a thoughtful, ever-lucid poster, who shouldn't have to read crap like that in here....regardless of it being a hidden category for members.

Just my opinion....

Sorry bro, apology to you.

Not to him, though.

Liberals are my enemy.

[bkepley]

Sorry bro, apology to you.

Not to him, though.

Liberals are my enemy.

Completely loony.

[DCPatriot]

Sorry bro, apology to you.

Not to him, though.

Liberals are my enemy.

No need to apologize to me, Laz.   I've always been a  huge fan of yours.       "Love you long time!"

Simply believe that Once-Ler's opinions are valued by a lot of us in here.  Go to any well read thread where poop was flying and you'll find him presenting a well reasoned, polite, thoughtful argument.     

[Lazamataz]

No need to apologize to me, Laz.   I've always been a  huge fan of yours.       "Love you long time!"

Simply believe that Once-Ler's opinions are valued by a lot of us in here.  Go to any well read thread where poop was flying and you'll find him presenting a well reasoned, polite, thoughtful argument.     

Well, since liberalism IS poop to me, I suggest that however polite, he was slinging poop too.

And of all the liberals in the world, ones that have infiltrated the Republican party are the most treacherous of all.

[GourmetDan]

And of all the liberals in the world, ones that have infiltrated the Republican party are the most treacherous of all.

I think you're doing fine, Laz.  Some of us feel a lot more like you do anyway.   

[aligncare]

Well, I don't think that America is in a deep, deep hole because of unfettered government conservatism.

I believe the blame for this mess lies with the loony left AND the feckless milquetoast Republicans breaking campaign promises to conservatives (who are the ones who get them elected), and for their giving in to each and every of Obama's illegal and unconstitutional actions.

[bkepley]

Well, I don't think that America is in a deep, deep hole because of unfettered government conservatism.

I believe the blame for this mess lies with the loony left AND the feckless milquetoast Republicans breaking campaign promises to conservatives (who are the ones who get them elected), and for their giving in to each and every of Obama's illegal and unconstitutional actions.

I think the voters also have something to do with it.

[GourmetDan]

I think the voters also have something to do with it.

Ain't universal suffrage wonderful...

[bkepley]

Ain't universal suffrage wonderful...

Americans get outraged if you suggest some people should not be allowed to vote.

[DCPatriot]

Americans get outraged if you suggest some people should not be allowed to vote.

IMO, only property owners should be given the vote.

Wanna vote?

Buy a house!   

[bkepley]

IMO, only property owners should be given the vote.

Wanna vote?

Buy a house!   

I agree but even fairly conservative folks think that is un-American or something.

[alicewonders]

IMO, only property owners should be given the vote.

Wanna vote?

Buy a house!   

I agree that you should have some kind of investment in America to have the privilege to vote - at least be a taxpayer!

[EdinVA]

I agree that you should have some kind of investment in America to have the privilege to vote - at least be a taxpayer!

How about if you are on any subsistence you cannot vote.
I think welfare pay some sort of taxes don't they?

[alicewonders]

How about if you are on any subsistence you cannot vote.
I think welfare pay some sort of taxes don't they?

I don't have a problem with that at all - people on welfare should not have a vote. 

[bkepley]

How about if you are on any subsistence you cannot vote.
I think welfare pay some sort of taxes don't they?

It's all a dream.  The "people" know they have the keys to the treasury they're not likely to give it back.  Makes you admire all the more our ancestors who did understand and apply similar rules and even those denied the vote understood why.

[massadvj]

I don't have a problem with that at all - people on welfare should not have a vote.

Since we are talking pipe dreams, nor should public employees at the level they are employed.  Federal employees should not be allowed to vote in federal elections. 

[alicewonders]

Since we are talking pipe dreams, nor should public employees at the level they are employed.  Federal employees should not be allowed to vote in federal elections.

Excellent point!